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12th February 2019, 08:09 PM | #921 |
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13th February 2019, 02:56 PM | #924 |
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How is this link to a boring video in any way a comment about Deepak? Amazing how a speaker like the one in the video can drag out his story for soooooo long. Holy crap! We get told about him being raised by his Grandfather, and living only a couple of doors down from the Church, and he just goes on and on. |
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"The question still remains, why are more women converting than men to Islam ?
Perhaps they realize their Soul is worth the Factual Research. 1. The Bible Convicts Women as the original Sinners, (ie. Eve picking from the forbidden tree){Genesis 2:4-3:24}. The Koran Clarifies it was Adam Not Eve {Qur'an 7:19-25}
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17th February 2019, 03:22 PM | #927 |
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Same fairy-story, different protagonists. This is like asking who was better: Batman or Superman.
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17th February 2019, 05:58 PM | #928 |
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He has been insulting his intelligence for 20 pages. He doesn't care, and most of the time doesn't even bother reading the well deserved derision of his ideas. What faith in supernatural can do to a person..
I clearly demonstrated the verses in his holy book which supports pedophilia many times. Didn't care about that either. I wonder.. |
19th February 2019, 05:51 PM | #929 |
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Errancy; Children are born pure, without sin XE "sin" (Leviticus 11:44, 19:2, 20:7) Vs Children are born wicked sinners (Psalms 58:3)
Excuse; That is what it says but that is not what it means. (Psalms 58:3) is speaking about the potential to commit sin XE "sin" , not being an actual sinner. Rebuttal: (See Reply letter [E] in Rebuttal Chart). The language and context used is that of one who is a sinner, not of one who will be a sinner. “The wicked are estranged from the womb” -not- “will be” (future tense), instead “are” (present tense) “they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” not will go astray as adults. Furthermore, Paul also adopts the absurdity that children are sinners by claiming; “Wherefore, as by one man sin XE "sin" entered into the world, and death XE "death" by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned” (Romans 5:12) Correction: The Quran corrects the fallacy that children are inherently evil or have contracted sin XE "sin" of previous generations; “We have indeed created man in the best of moulds.” (Quran 95:4) "Say, "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?" Every person earns what is for it, and none will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you regarding your disputes " (Quran 6:164) " If you reject, then know that God is in no need of you, and He dislikes rejection for His servants. If you are appreciative, He is pleased for you. None shall bear the burdens of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of what is inside the chests." (Quran 39:7) https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618 |
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20th February 2019, 06:21 AM | #932 |
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Fun fact: The Koran does not exclude the possibility that Jesus was the son of God.
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20th February 2019, 06:30 AM | #934 |
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Allah does not approve of earning your red wings:
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What happened to Muslim female presidents? Are you like so many posters here, when presented with evidence contrary to their claims or someone points out holes in their arguments, that you quickly change topics?
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20th February 2019, 08:05 AM | #937 |
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You are patently incompetent at reading and understanding scripture, even that of your own religion. The "errors" you purport to find and the "corrections" you propose are simply your own ignorant misunderstandings, mistranslations, and misinterpretations.
Now be a good boy and go read up on the Christian doctrine of original sin so that you can represent it accurately and correctly next time instead of embarrassing yourself with these infantile exegetics. |
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"Errancy; Women are not property, except in the Bible (Exodus 21:7-11) A father can sell a daughter into slavery XE "slavery" to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.
Excuse; None available. Correction: Fortunately, for all of us, God gave us our rights and freedom in the Quran over 1400 years ago. We do not have to be enslaved to the laws of the Bible: God says: “O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women XE "women" against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.” (Quran 4:19) Regarding a parent’s debt or poverty, we are commanded in the Quran not to slay children to alleviate poverty: “Say: Come I will recite what your Lord has forbidden to you-(remember) that you do not associate anything with Him and show kindness to your parents, and do not slay your children for (fear XE "fear" of) poverty - We provide for you and for them” (Quran 6:151)" https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618 |
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Are we talking about the same Koran? I don't think we are. You seem to know even less about the Koran than the average Christian knows of the Bible.
Let's start with the passage that says a woman is only worth half a man.
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In marked contrast to the rules for Israelites set out in Ex. 21. Indenture, at the time, was a fact of life. It was based on the heretical notion that one's labor has economic value. One wasn't sold into slavery, but one could agree to enter indenture as a way of paying debts one could not otherwise afford. (I still accept certain forms of agreed-upon labor in lieu of rent for my tenants.) The notion that Ex. 21 describes some form of involuntary servitude or chattel slavery is bizarre.
The reason the rules differ between men and women is that indenture served a different purpose in each case. For men, the indenture was a form of debt payment. The term was limited in law to protect the servant from usurous exploitation of his labor. It was up to the servant to determine whether he wished to continue in that condition after the expiration of the agreed-upon term, not as a continuing obligation but rather as the perpetuation of a situation that he enjoyed. For women, the indenture was intended as a prelude to marriage. The girl was expected eventually to marry into the receiving family, and the prenuptual indenture may have been a form of dowry in lieu of goods. This let poor families stand on equal ground in the community. The relevant prescriptions in Ex. 21 specify what happens if the prospective marriage doesn't work out. If the girl elects to stay on anyway, she must be treated as a daughter -- not as a servant. This status must be maintained even if the household takes on another indentured girl. She becomes a full-fledged member of the household. The indentured girl may not simply be disposed of as property, "sold to foreigners." The reason Emre can find no "excuse" for this Torah passage is that he's gotten it almost completely wrong. The relevant passages of Ex. 21 specify the rules that protect the servant under the conditions of voluntary indenture. They are laid upon on the host, not allowances for the mistreatment of servants or for treating them like property. The gist of this passage is that they cannot be treated as property, even if the deal goes south. |
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As I wrote in my Turkish article, the Qur'an banned slavery. You can't take a person's pen without permission also. http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/...kaldrmstr.html |
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Quran 95:4 We have created the human being in the best form.
Quran 4:118 God has cursed him; and he had said, "I will take from Your servants a sizeable portion." Quran 4:119 "I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss. Human circumcision is out of religious/Islam. |
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I fail to see how this displays the claimed superiority or correction. Christians don't circumcise as a rule; it tends to be more national and/or cultural these days. I don't agree with it, but there we are. The bris in Judaism is not to correct some supposed defect or imperfection in the human form, but to act as a visible, permanent sign of one's faith.
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There's just something really wrong about any religion that would prevent a man from having a BLT and washing it down with a beer.
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Now now, Imre's version of Islam is so unique, for all we know it allows all foods and drinks.
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The Qur'an corrects the mistakes of the false Injil/Torah
And yet there are millions of Muslims who wear glasses. Weird. I understand your act requires you to pretend to be clueless, but your circumcision post is just too absurd. It breaks believability. It completely ignores why Jews practice circumcision in favor of nonsense that at best appears made up by someone who had NO clue what they were talking about. It’s about as stupid an argument as claiming Muslims don’t eat pork because it tastes too much like the infidels they cook for Thursday dinner. It’s a nonsensical argument based on complete ignorance of the religion being discussed. |
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According to the Qur'an, all food and drinks except pork and blood are halal:
http://quranic.org/eating-according-...ding-to-sects/ And: https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610016.0 |
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See, I know some muslims, and they would disagree with you. Alcohol seems to be a thing, and meat needs to be prepared in a certain way.
So, if you are going to disagree with 99.9999999% of the muslims out there, why not just go for bacon and black pudding as well? Being able to eat anything was at least part of the way christianity managed to attract more converts. This of course does not even delve into WHY a god would make an animal as easily farmed as a pig and then forbid everyone from eating it. |
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Errancy; In the Biblical version, almost all prophets seem to commit major sins in faith and moral standing. Within the Bible, some of the shameful deeds attributed to prophets include; Aaron XE "Aaron" ’s idol worship;
“Aaron XE "Aaron" said to people of Israel XE "Israel" , ‘take off the rings of Gold which are in the ears of your wives, your sons and your daughters.’ So they took off the rings of gold, and brought them to Aaron. And he received the golf at their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a molten calf and they said, “These are your Gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.” (Exodus. 32:2) Excuse; None available. Correction: The Biblical concept of prophet hood is also radically different from the one presented in the Quran. The Quran depicts prophets as the best model of piety and moral uprightness. The Quran refutes this claim against Aaron XE "Aaron" ; “(Allah) said: ‘We have tested thy people in thy absence: the Samiri has led them astray.’ So Moses XE "Moses" returned to his people in a state of indignation and sorrow. He said: “O my people! did not your Lord make a handsome promise to you? Did then the promise seem to you long (in coming)? Or did ye desire that Wrath should descend from your Lord on you, and so ye broke your promise to me?” “They said: ‘We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the Samiri suggested. “Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses XE "Moses" , but (Moses) has forgotten! Could they not see that it could not return them a word (for answer), and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good?” “Aaron XE "Aaron" had already, before this said to them: “O my people! ye are being tested in this: for verily your Lord is (Allah) Most Gracious; so follow me and obey my command. They had said: “We will not abandon this cult, but we will devote ourselves to it until Moses XE "Moses" returns to us. (Moses) said: “O Aaron! what kept thee back, when thou sawest them going wrong, from following me? Didst thou then disobey my order?” “(Aaron XE "Aaron" ) replied: “O son of my mother! Seize (me) not by my beard nor by (the hair of) my head! Truly I feared lest thou shouldst say, ‘Thou has caused a division among the children of Israel XE "Israel" , and thou didst not respect my word!’” (Quran 20:85-94) The Quran clears Aaron XE "Aaron" of participation in the making and worshipping of the golden calf as the Bible portrays. The Quran illuminates the fact that Aaron was simply not as strong as Moses XE "Moses" , being the weaker brother of Moses; Aaron could not control the Israelites as Moses could, despite pleas by Aaron for the Israelites to stop. “Not a messenger did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me. And they say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten offspring.” Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honor. They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His Command.” (Quran 21:25-27) https://quranbible.org/english.htm#_Toc96948618 |
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No, once again you don't know how to read the Torah. And when you are corrected by your betters, you simply ignore them. You are not a great imam. You are not a great rabbi. You're just a fanatic with more zeal than wisdom. Your "corrections" all boil down to your ignorant misreading of the Torah following by an equally ignorant misreading of the Qur'an.
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There's no one else named Joshua.
He was Jesus. Jesus is the nephew of Moses and he has come to earth much earlier than you think. The Yusha mentioned in the False Torah(hadith book) is actually Isa/Jesus. I showed this in my Turkish article: http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2018/...-ve-harun.html |
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Yes there is. I've known plenty of people called Joshua.
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