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Old 13th February 2018, 10:24 AM   #1401
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
What if that's the fake (or non-related) account? I'm expecting a clarification very soon.
Well, one was created this month and the other was created in 2012 and has links from years ago to articles written by Willoughby claiming authorship . That's a fairly long con . . . .
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Old 13th February 2018, 10:47 AM   #1402
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Account suspended -ETA: I guess it was fake
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Old 13th February 2018, 10:57 AM   #1403
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Old 13th February 2018, 10:59 AM   #1404
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Old 13th February 2018, 01:16 PM   #1405
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I've been busy and missed the announcement some days back that Trump's US will do nothing to help rebuild Iraq... and even thinks Iraq owes the US money, bigly!! Not even a miserable dime for those waaaay beyond any blame, such as the Yazidi, who were, and are, nonetheless victims of Iraq II and its horrific denouement.

Soooo-ho-ho. "Proximate cause" means... gosh, "free beer" in the CSA-GOP-manboy dictionary. Surprised it made it in, given the thing is only 5 pages long, double-spaced, and in crayon.
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Old 13th February 2018, 01:33 PM   #1406
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
I've been busy and missed the announcement some days back that Trump's US will do nothing to help rebuild Iraq... and even thinks Iraq owes the US money, bigly!!
Of course not, we were not bombing ISIS out of the goodness of our hearts we were doing it for the Iraqi paycheck of course. You don't run the government like a business and let a profit center like the military not live up to its full potential.
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Old 13th February 2018, 03:28 PM   #1407
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Meanwhile Trump's good buddy Bibi in Israel is having his problems, I see....
Good old fashioned, Tammany Hall style corruption.
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Old 13th February 2018, 06:50 PM   #1408
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I think it would be fun to go into the White House mess and ask really loudly, "when did you stop beating your wife" to see how many Trump appointees look at their watch.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:18 PM   #1409
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
I've been busy and missed the announcement some days back that Trump's US will do nothing to help rebuild Iraq...
But will complain mightily if and when Iran does.

The only role the US still has in the Middle East is as the tail to Israel's dog. Just as in the Western Pacific, it has progressed from being an out-of-area player to simply being out-of-area. Europe next (if not already).

Which was inevitable : Trump has merely hastened the process, which might well turn out to be an accidental positive. Bush Jr. tried the opposite in the Middle East, with predictably negative consequences.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:21 PM   #1410
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I think it would be fun to go into the White House mess and ask really loudly, "when did you stop beating your wife" to see how many Trump appointees look at their watch.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:21 PM   #1411
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
I think it would be fun to go into the White House mess and ask really loudly, "when did you stop beating your wife" to see how many Trump appointees look at their watch.
I'd like to shout "Delivery for Mr Sorses Familia" and see who looks up.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:28 PM   #1412
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Meanwhile Trump's good buddy Bibi in Israel is having his problems, I see....
Which explains the bombing in Syria. Bibi's automatic response when under pressure is to bomb somebody.
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Old 13th February 2018, 07:29 PM   #1413
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Old 13th February 2018, 08:28 PM   #1414
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Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
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Old 13th February 2018, 08:32 PM   #1415
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
He should be prosecuted. I wonder if he's willing to go to jail to protect Trump.
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Old 13th February 2018, 09:50 PM   #1416
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He should be prosecuted. I wonder if he's willing to go to jail to protect Trump.
Pardon?
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Old 13th February 2018, 09:58 PM   #1417
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Interesting perspective. The writer says Trump took over the Republican party by a "reverse merger," a sleazy business practice.
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Maybe you’re unfamiliar with this particular bit of legal, yet slightly sketchy, legerdemain. A privately owned business wants to sell shares to the public but for whatever reason wishes to avoid the close scrutiny of an initial public offering.

So the business owner finds a near-dead company that is already public, buys it for a song, grafts the private enterprise into the hollow public shell and — voila! — the deed is done.
.......
Trump snapped up the shell of the Republican Party and made it his public vehicle.
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Why don't we hear from the White House why Russian mercs are attacking US troops in Syria, despite assurances by Putin that that won't happen?
More importantly, why isn't the press squeezing Sanders on this?
Looks like the current sanctions aren't working
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It makes perfect sense that a Jew lawyer would protect a client/friend by paying $130,000 of his own money for a porn star to keep quiet about sex she didn't have.
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Old 14th February 2018, 12:11 AM   #1420
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
Almost cartoonishly absurd. Only way I could believe this would be if Trump said he'd pay him back and just stiffed him.
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I assume that Cohen's billings to Trump are so large that he can slip in $130K without even breaking into a sweat.
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Caroline O is following the Senate Intel Committee hearings where all the heads of the security agencies are being questioned. The Russia coverage is mentioned all over the place, but buried on her page of tweets is that Wray reports that they submitted initial findings on Porter back in July, that the WH asked them to dig further, that they filed a second report in November and then closed the file in January.

What does Parseltongue Huckabee-Sanders have to say on this? Why doesn't the news media hammer them on these topics?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/963429318046244865

No wonder Kelly's running around getting people to re-corroborate or un-corroborate and then de-corroborate various versions of the story.
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White House looking to save money by replacing food stamps with food deliveries. Of course, they haven't looked at the logistics (such as how to individually tailor the boxes so that families with nut allergies don't get peanut butter), or budgeted for the costs of delivery (it seems individual states will have to pick up that cost).
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White House looking to save money by replacing food stamps with food deliveries. Of course, they haven't looked at the logistics (such as how to individually tailor the boxes so that families with nut allergies don't get peanut butter), or budgeted for the costs of delivery (it seems individual states will have to pick up that cost).
Yes. It's like some ******* in a cabinet meeting said "poor people are eating too well. How can we cut spending on them and try to not look to evil?" Then another ******* says "let's make them all eat ramen noodles, powdered milk and canned food but say it's like Blue Apron." Trump liked it, said to put it in writing and none of them thought about any other factors.

This wish of theirs will go nowhere because it isn't a thought-out, serious policy proposal.
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Yes. It's like some ******* in a cabinet meeting said "poor people are eating too well. How can we cut spending on them and try to not look to evil?" Then another ******* says "let's make them all eat ramen noodles, powdered milk and canned food but say it's like Blue Apron." Trump liked it, said to put it in writing and none of them thought about any other factors.

This wish of theirs will go nowhere because it isn't a thought-out, serious policy proposal.
Neither is the border wall and that is being built. This is not an administration to let the stupidity of the idea get in the way of its implementation.
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Caroline O is following the Senate Intel Committee hearings where all the heads of the security agencies are being questioned. The Russia coverage is mentioned all over the place, but buried on her page of tweets is that Wray reports that they submitted initial findings on Porter back in July, that the WH asked them to dig further, that they filed a second report in November and then closed the file in January.

What does Parseltongue Huckabee-Sanders have to say on this? Why doesn't the news media hammer them on these topics?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/963429318046244865

No wonder Kelly's running around getting people to re-corroborate or un-corroborate and then de-corroborate various versions of the story.
Correction: Wray said "I can't get into the content of what was briefed to the White House ... What I can tell you is that the FBI submitted a partial report on the investigation in question in March. And then a completed background investigation in late July. That soon thereafter, we received request for follow-up inquiry and we did the follow-up and provided that information in November and that we administratively closed the file in January,"

So, three times.
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This wish of theirs will go nowhere because it isn't a thought-out, serious policy proposal.
I haven't seen one of those in a long time.
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Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
So it is finally almost official, Trump actually does pay porn stars to have sex with him while his third wife is recovering from the baby that she had with him.

Somehow, I expect that this news will not matter one whit to the various stupid religious people who support Trump, but these very same people are still so very upset when Bill Clinton had sort of sex with Monica Lewinsky.

Ugh!
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He should be prosecuted. I wonder if he's willing to go to jail to protect Trump.
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Pardon?
It's being investigated as an illegal campaign contribution. Not a jailable offense, probably, but still a crime.
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
Trump's hotshot lawyer Michael Cohen now claims that the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels came from him, not from Trump or Trump's campaign. He, of course, still denies that Trump had an affair with Daniels, so I guess that we're to assume he was paying for her advice on how to repeal ObamaCare, or something like that.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...out-of-his-own
Only in the age of Trump is this third page news.

I confirmed my recollection about Cohen -- he's not just another lawyer. He was Executive VP for Trump's company, glued to Trump's side for years.

Re this part -- he denied that the 130k came from the Trump company or the Trump campaign. He didn't rule out that it came from Trump personally. (Although the notion that Trump pays for anything out of his own pocket is fanciful.)
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It's being investigated as an illegal campaign contribution. Not a jailable offense, probably, but still a crime.
Red herring. But it is very obvious that they paid her hush money. They've even admitted it. It isn't a campaign contribution though. Its extortion. Or suchlike.
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
White House looking to save money by replacing food stamps with food deliveries. Of course, they haven't looked at the logistics (such as how to individually tailor the boxes so that families with nut allergies don't get peanut butter), or budgeted for the costs of delivery (it seems individual states will have to pick up that cost).
Sounds like a hot mess. The kind of idea that lots of politicians might have for about 15 minutes but then be quickly talked out of as the obvious flaws are pointed out by the staff. Grocery stores must have some sort of lobby with influence over Republicans, right? They need to reach out and crush this.
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So it is finally almost official, Trump actually does pay porn stars to have sex with him while his third wife is recovering from the baby that she had with him.

Somehow, I expect that this news will not matter one whit to the various stupid religious people who support Trump, but these very same people are still so very upset when Bill Clinton had sort of sex with Monica Lewinsky.

Ugh!
No the official situation from the Trump campaign is that nothing happened,he never met her, and that his lawyer for no reason at all decided to giver her a 130k personal gift.
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It's being investigated as an illegal campaign contribution. Not a jailable offense, probably, but still a crime.
Illegal campaign contributions are what sent Kushners dad to prison. Well that and videoing his brother in law with a prostitute and giving the tape to his sister as punishment for his brother in laws testimony.
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Old 14th February 2018, 09:29 AM   #1435
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Why don't we hear from the White House why Russian mercs are attacking US troops in Syria, despite assurances by Putin that that won't happen?
More importantly, why isn't the press squeezing Sanders on this?
Looks like the current sanctions aren't working
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Caroline O is following the Senate Intel Committee hearings where all the heads of the security agencies are being questioned. The Russia coverage is mentioned all over the place, but buried on her page of tweets is that Wray reports that they submitted initial findings on Porter back in July, that the WH asked them to dig further, that they filed a second report in November and then closed the file in January.

What does Parseltongue Huckabee-Sanders have to say on this? Why doesn't the news media hammer them on these topics?

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/963429318046244865

No wonder Kelly's running around getting people to re-corroborate or un-corroborate and then de-corroborate various versions of the story.
Because "fire that son of a bitch!" and "******** countries!" and "military parade!" and "squirrel!"
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Old 14th February 2018, 09:29 AM   #1436
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Red herring. But it is very obvious that they paid her hush money. They've even admitted it. It isn't a campaign contribution though. Its extortion. Or suchlike.
Depends on where the money came from. It is not a valid use of campaign funds to pay hush money, call it the Hastert Law. Of course it wasn't hush money, that would imply that something happened and there is an NDA involved things that president himself denies.
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Because "fire that son of a bitch!" and "******** countries!" and "military parade!" and "squirrel!"
Exactly the Trump effect is to have so many constant new scandals that none of them can gain traction. This is what won him the presidency after all.
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Exactly the Trump effect is to have so many constant new scandals that none of them can gain traction. This is what won him the presidency after all.
We're in the second week of the Rob Porter security clearance scandal. That's some amazing longevity for a scandal in this WH.
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We're in the second week of the Rob Porter security clearance scandal. That's some amazing longevity for a scandal in this WH.
Well unlike most other scandals this one might be illegal due to mishandling of classified information.
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Sounds like a hot mess. The kind of idea that lots of politicians might have for about 15 minutes but then be quickly talked out of as the obvious flaws are pointed out by the staff. Grocery stores must have some sort of lobby with influence over Republicans, right? They need to reach out and crush this.
Of course they have a lobby, and it's mobilizing. An article I read said 20% of all food stamp dollars are spent at Wal-Mart. The administration, however, certainly has a point when it says that the government should be able to negotiate lower prices rather than pay retail.

Milton Friedman and many others have long argued that welfare benefits should be paid in cash because "consumers know what they want better than anyone else." This can go into Aspergery territory when you get articles published in journals with titles like "The Deadweight Loss of Christmas Giving."

But there should be a way to merge the two ideas. If the government really is paying face-value, then it needs to stop. The feds should negotiate it so that $100 grocery bill only gets paid $90 (or whatever). Frankly, I'm shocked (if) this isn't already the case.

The home delivery stuff is just stupid, and underscores the point that Republicans are more interested in scolding the poor. For many, I bet it'd be "worth it" to see poor people dump asparagus in the trash because it justifies their long-standing contempt. "See! See!!"
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