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30th January 2017, 02:53 PM | #41 |
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30th January 2017, 05:48 PM | #44 |
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Meanwhile in other countries: [Sean Spicer hints Quebec City mosque shooting justifies Trump travel ban]
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30th January 2017, 06:08 PM | #47 |
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I think Chris Htichens would be appaled at having this creep as a fan.
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30th January 2017, 07:25 PM | #51 |
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Oh, the sadness in the right wing blogosphere and alt-right. They were all over the news that one was inferentially a mooslim, all picking up on the "source that wished to remain anonymous" who said that bullets whizzed over his head as "Allahu Akhbar" was shouted.
@Caper, How's that "rule" working out. So we can all now comfortably return to the known facts? Coulter is a reprehensible white nationalist who makes crap up that the gullible repeat on the internet. |
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30th January 2017, 09:35 PM | #52 |
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Nice trifecta: Quebec+francophone+fan of La Pen.
Does Canada have the Death Penalty? Its made for people like this. |
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Only as victims and witnesses. The shooter was a Canadian resident of Quebec and not Muslim. His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He is white and probably Catholic. He is also a white supremacist and Trump supporter.
The Muslim arrested was a witness who called 911 from outside the shooting zone.
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Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable. |
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31st January 2017, 01:17 AM | #57 |
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No. I wager HE think Trump's follower are THAT stupid.
What he says may not be directed toward the whole US, but simply the subset of citizen which voted Trump. I see the "it is the muuussllllim" folk are not there anymore. Maybe now it has been shown that their prejudice belied them they are not interested into the story anymore ? |
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More about the guy who was arrested and then released: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/...c?isAutoPlay=1
transcript from the video (1'37"):
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- Mohammed Belkhadir: " After the prayer I was among the first to get out, at the right time, and that's when I heard a shooting." - Journalist:" We met him just after his release. He was still shocked. The police arrested him when he was helping a bleeding injured person." - Mohammed Belkhadir: " When I exited the mosque I called 911 then I went to see if my friends were alive or dead. I found one near the door but I didn't know if he was dead or not. I saw this other person who was breathing so I wanted to give him my coat and while I was giving him my coat to keep him warm, I saw an "image" of a man with a gun. I didn't realize that it was a policeman." - Journalist:" He was trying to flee when the Police arrested and handcuffed him..." |
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We stopped executing people in the 1960s and removed capital punishment from the Criminal Code in 1976. Capital punishment was removed from the Code of Service Discipline in 1999.
In short, no we don't. We let them rot with an actual life term (life imprisonment in Canada is just what it says on the tin - life). Even if you get paroled you will report to a parole officer until the day you die. |
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It's just fog of war.
Remember how many early reports of 9/11 were wrong, and then used as 'evidence' for years by the tinfoilers? Early reports here indicated that it was a Muslim attack with one suspect called Mohamed and people yelling Allah Akbar. Turned out the Muslim suspect was the guy who called the cops and the Allah Akbar yells came from people scared out of their minds in the middle of a mass shooting. Canada has it's own Dylan Roof now. |
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And, true to form, Robert Spencer and his merry band of morons and haters over at Jihadwatch went from crowing about how this attack was carried out by a Muslim to now alleging a cover-up by the mass media/false flag attack (oddly, they seem to think it's both at the same time) when it turned out the murderer was a LePen-supporting white nationalist.
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And [presidential candidates].
We sort of already did with [Marc "women shouldn't be allowed to be engineers so I'm allowed to shoot them" Lepine]. |
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Someone, it may or may not have been Applebaum (an expert on authoritarian and totalitarian regimes), made the opposite point. Telling obvious lies, the more absurd and unbelievable the better, is a display of power. Telling clever lies is a sign of weakness. In the latter case you are cowering and hoping to get away with it. In the former case you are so powerful that you can say whatever you want and not only get away with it, but change what people perceive is reality. Putin lying about Russian troops being in Ukraine when everyone could see on their TV screens is an obvious example.
If I told such obvious lies my life would quickly be in ruins. If I treated people the way Trump treats people I would probably be in jail. Yet he is the most powerful person on the planet. If Obama lied like Trump, significant numbers from his own party in congress and the senate would have revolted against him. We will see if they do against Trump (I am betting no). If they don't Trump will have established that he is far more powerful than any president before him - that the rules that applied to all previous Presidents do not apply to him. The same thing goes for Trump saying that he could shoot someone and wouldn't lose a follower. That is a pretty big slap in the face towards your followers. A "weak" leader couldn't get away with it. A "strong" leader shows his power over people by doing just that. |
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What opportunity would that be?
You seem to imply that we should kill the President. Usually the "what would you have done back then" is in regards to Hitler and whether or not someone would kill him if they could go back in time, or if they knew in advance what he would become. Just asking. Maybe it's just, yet another, angry emotional outburst from a passionate concerned ISFer. Pretty disturbing if not. |
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