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Old 24th June 2010, 06:49 PM   #1
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Does Rush speak for the GOP?

Why are Republican politicians unable to disagree with Rush? Is it because they are afraid, or because they agree?

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Old 24th June 2010, 06:53 PM   #2
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I agree. It's sad that no Republican politician will actualy disagree with Rush on anything.
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GOP stands for Grossly Overweight Pinheads, right?
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Old 24th June 2010, 07:52 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Howie Felterbush View Post
GOP stands for Grossly Overweight Pinheads, right?
No. Greedy Old Perverts.
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Old 24th June 2010, 08:34 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Why are Republican politicians unable to disagree with Rush? Is it because they are afraid, or because they agree?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#37909858
I propose a third option: they don't care about him nearly as much as you do.

Put another way: Their not disagreeing with him is just as consistent with his views not being important in their view, as it consistent with his views being supremely important in their view. I know this may be hard for you to understand, since obviously Rush's views are supremely important in your view.

And speaking of your view, put a third way: what's the point, since even if they do you'll just call them liars anyway?
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Old 24th June 2010, 08:41 PM   #7
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Many GOP politicians have been asked the question. So it's not a matter of care, it's a matter of integrity. Nice try. I'm glad to see 1 conservative that is embarrassed about Rush. Thanks.
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Old 24th June 2010, 08:45 PM   #8
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Because someone openly disagreeing with a nut only matters if one is on the opposing side. Like that crazy ass preacher the conservatives were up in arms about .
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Old 24th June 2010, 08:56 PM   #9
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What are they supposed to be disagreeing with him about now?
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Yes, evidenced by the apologies trotted out by members of the GOP who dare to question the great gasbag.

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Old 25th June 2010, 05:23 AM   #11
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I did not waste time watching the whole 6 minutes but the clip was of Limbaugh claiming the BP 20B fund was a slush find and the method used to get it was a shakedown. Didn't a lot of republicans come out against that view?

How often do you hear Democrats publically disagreeing with Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow etc?
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Old 25th June 2010, 05:44 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
I did not waste time watching the whole 6 minutes but the clip was of Limbaugh claiming the BP 20B fund was a slush find and the method used to get it was a shakedown. Didn't a lot of republicans come out against that view?
Ithink some did originally but it seems quite a few have embraced that exact viewpoint since then.
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How often do you hear Democrats publically disagreeing with Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow etc?
Neither Matthews nor Maddow seem to carry the clout that Limbaugh enjoys. It appears that candidates within the GOP are afraid of losing the Limbagh vote so are quick to smooth over any problems between them. Hence, we get to see GOPers who dared disagree with Limbaugh walk back their statements usually within a couple of days. It really is kind of humorous and we just don't see anything similar on the DNC side.
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Old 25th June 2010, 05:53 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
Ithink some did originally but it seems quite a few have embraced that exact viewpoint since then.

Neither Matthews nor Maddow seem to carry the clout that Limbaugh enjoys. It appears that candidates within the GOP are afraid of losing the Limbagh vote so are quick to smooth over any problems between them. Hence, we get to see GOPers who dared disagree with Limbaugh walk back their statements usually within a couple of days. It really is kind of humorous and we just don't see anything similar on the DNC side.
Limbaugh does have a lot of followers and they are politically active.
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Old 25th June 2010, 05:53 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
How often do you hear Democrats publically disagreeing with Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow etc?
As much as I dislike much of what Gen George Patton stood for, he did make an occassional observation that should be taken to heart. One of his famous quips was that "If everybody is thinking alike, somebody isn't thinking."

Democratic strategy sessions, caucuses and conventions are a cat round-up, but we usually get the important stuff done, after listening to all the opinions and concerns of participants. We like to at least feel that we have considered all the options, including those which require that we make some sacrifices ourselves. This is why we can tolerate Joe Liebermann (at least to the extent of not buring down his campaign office while he is inside over the crap he has pulled on us.)

As for the GOP, uniformity is everything. A posturing monkey like the lardblob is just what they need to keep everybody thinking the Republicant way.
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Old 25th June 2010, 02:23 PM   #15
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Democrats have disagreed with the MSNBC pundits, and they've even done so during interviews on those shows.

Rush's stance on BP is a good example. When Barton spewed his nonsense, most of the GOP said "that's not us." Today, however, most of them are with Rush and Barton on this issue.
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Old 25th June 2010, 04:28 PM   #16
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How can they disagree with Rush? That band rocks! Even their latest song rocks, after all this time. Sure, they're slowing down, running out of awesome ideas even as their playing improves. Sure, the idiots that be won't put them in the RaRHoF. But they have 22 gold records. That's all their records except this last one, only because it's just been released.
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Old 26th June 2010, 07:53 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
Limbaugh does have a lot of followers and they are politically active.
This. I don't think anyone really gives a crap about Limbaugh himself; he's a radio host, not a cult leader. He does, however, have a following. Considering the faction fights and leadership vacuum in the GOP these days, I can't see any Republican politicians wanting to alienate a potential part of their base.
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Old 26th June 2010, 09:57 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Dorian Gray View Post
How can they disagree with Rush? That band rocks! Even their latest song rocks, after all this time. Sure, they're slowing down, running out of awesome ideas even as their playing improves. Sure, the idiots that be won't put them in the RaRHoF. But they have 22 gold records. That's all their records except this last one, only because it's just been released.
Limbaugh is just used to living in the limelight. A real working man wouldn't listen to his crap and use their free will.
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I know he doesn't speak for me.
In fact, whenever I hear him on a radio, I whip out my .45 and double-tap the speaker he's coming from...
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Old 26th June 2010, 12:47 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by rwguinn View Post
I know he doesn't speak for me.
In fact, whenever I hear him on a radio, I whip out my .45 and double-tap the speaker he's coming from...
We need to arrange a studio visit for you.
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Rush's stance on BP is a good example. When Barton spewed his nonsense, most of the GOP said "that's not us." Today, however, most of them are with Rush and Barton on this issue.
Maybe because it's not nonsense?
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Maybe because it's not nonsense?
Thank you for helping make the point. The position that the BP fund is a shakedown is a mainstream GOP position.
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Thank you for helping make the point. The position that the BP fund is a shakedown is a mainstream GOP position.
The point that it's not nonsense?

Glad to be of assistance.
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The point that it's not nonsense?

Glad to be of assistance.
Correct. It is not nonsense to assert that the GOP agrees with Rush and Barton. Thanks.
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Maybe because it's not nonsense?
No, no it's definitely nonsense.
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No, no it's definitely nonsense.
I don't doubt you think so. That is not the same as knowing so for a fact.
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I don't doubt you think so. That is not the same as knowing so for a fact.
If you trust a word out of the fat gas bag's mouth, your ability to reason is in question.
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I know he doesn't speak for me.
What political office do you hold?
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I don't doubt you think so. That is not the same as knowing so for a fact.
In general, perhaps. But in this particular case, I'm pretty sure it is.
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Limbaugh is just used to living in the limelight. A real working man wouldn't listen to his crap and use their free will.
He's not the spirit of radio, definitely. He's just in it for the big money.
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This. I don't think anyone really gives a crap about Limbaugh himself; he's a radio host, not a cult leader. He does, however, have a following. Considering the faction fights and leadership vacuum in the GOP these days, I can't see any Republican politicians wanting to alienate a potential part of their base.
But how many times has the official head of the republican party apologized to him for not toeing the party line as spouted by Rush? That is real political power.
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In general, perhaps. But in this particular case, I'm pretty sure it is.
That a fact? That you're "pretty sure"?

Or are you just "pretty sure" about that too?
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Ken, Rush claims to speak for conservatives.

He has complained in the past about some Republicans being not conservative enough, to include John McCain and Arnold Schwarzenager. I think the term he used to use was RINO: Republican In Name Only.

Also, per your question, I think it is his desire to speak for the GOP, in terms of 'what I say is what the PoV the GOP take.'

I don't know if that answers your question, or not.
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That a fact? That you're "pretty sure"?

Or are you just "pretty sure" about that too?
You seem confused. I can't help you with that.
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I think it is his desire to speak for the GOP, in terms of 'what I say is the PoV the GOP should take.'
Amended to make sense, and if that is what you meant, I'd say you're correct.

I find it amusing that a left-winger or two here thinks the GOP should become Democrat Lite.



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You seem confused. I can't help you with that.
One of us seems to think "pretty sure personal belief" = "fact".

It isn't me.
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Amended to make sense, and if that is what you meant, I'd say you're correct.

I find it amusing that a left-winger or two here thinks the GOP should become Democrat Lite.
Most rational people would be happy to see it bcome what it was under Eisenhower. The election of a GOP president would become less catatrophic than sahould one of today's generation of GOPers got their feet through the door again.
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Rush is keeping his opinions closer to the heart as he works to ensure Republican victory in 2112, oops I mean 2012. He is sending signals to his Republican allies and wants to ensure a solid ideological front, no subdivisions as the elections will not be a fly by night campaign as they do not want to risk losing it.
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Old 28th June 2010, 08:09 AM   #38
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isn't he speaking for all real US Americans?
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He's not the spirit of radio, definitely. He's just in it for the big money.
And I heard that his favorite book is "The Adventures Of Tom Sawyer."

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Rush is keeping his opinions closer to the heart as he works to ensure Republican victory in 2112, oops I mean 2012. He is sending signals to his Republican allies and wants to ensure a solid ideological front, no subdivisions as the elections will not be a fly by night campaign as they do not want to risk losing it.
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