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Old 20th May 2012, 03:25 PM   #561
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
Let's debate it then?
That would require you to actually PROVE the things you say...you can not...

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Old 20th May 2012, 03:25 PM   #562
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Originally Posted by RoboTimbo View Post
7forever, show us the blurry towers again. LOL! Or you could do as you were told and post some hi-rez video which will prove your point, right?
I use all the evidence, fake blob planes, orbs, the whole thing. I never pretend it's anything other than fake imagery with the exception of the orb which you cannot prove was a plane.
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
I don't need an argument...

Admission that you have no evidence to present to "back up" your ideas...


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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
You don't have to prove an orb's an orb, but that an orb was a plane. How would you do that?
Post the highest definition video possible and hi-light the features

(this is a problem in this case).
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
Let's debate it then? You are laughing at how absurd the idea of planes is, and how you'll never have to do anything but troll.
Ok Mr "i think people dying horrifically is funny" 7forever.

What happened to the passengers?
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Old 20th May 2012, 03:26 PM   #566
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Originally Posted by R.A.F. View Post
That would require you to actually PROVE the things you say...you can not...

Argument DENIED.
Two witnesses debunk planes which is confirmed by 4 broadcasts that aired an orb, not a plane. YOU GOT NOTHIN'.
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I never pretend it's anything other than fake imagery with the exception of the orb which you cannot prove was a plane.
This is evidence that you can not "control" your bias...you can't conceive of being wrong...


Sorry, but lame argument DENIED
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
I use all the evidence, fake blob planes, orbs, the whole thing. I never pretend it's anything other than fake imagery with the exception of the orb which you cannot prove was a plane.
LOL! Yes, keep doing it! Show us the blurry windowless towers.
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Ok Mr "i think people dying horrifically is funny" 7forever.

What happened to the passengers?
The issue in this thread is not the passengers. YOU ARE CHANGING THE SUBJECT because you can't prove the basic and most important thing on 911, that there were real planes.
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
Two witnesses debunk planes which is confirmed by 4 broadcasts that aired an orb, not a plane. YOU GOT NOTHIN'.
Assertions are not evidence...irrational argument DENIED
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
The issue in this thread is not the passengers. YOU ARE CHANGING THE SUBJECT because you can't prove the basic and most important thing on 911, that there were real planes.
What happened to the blurry towers? LOL!
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Originally Posted by R.A.F. View Post
This is evidence that you can not "control" your bias...you can't conceive of being wrong...


Sorry, but lame argument DENIED
That's not entirely true. If someone can prove something came from behind the towers, then there were two things involved for the south tower. The orb is independent of anything that may have followed the official flight path. Cloud and David, and a few others make me confident that there was only the weird object.
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
The issue in this thread is not the passengers.
It becomes one when you laugh at their deaths.


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YOU ARE CHANGING THE SUBJECT because you can't prove the basic and most important thing on 911, that there were real planes.
The accepted scenerio is that there were planes...your assertion doesn't change that one tiny bit.

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Assertions are not evidence...irrational argument DENIED
One was a real-time witness, not many of those survived and his elaboration on what he saw was incredible. He corroborates the live footage.
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That's not entirely true. If someone can prove something came from behind the towers, then there were two things involved for the south tower. The orb is independent of anything that may have followed the official flight path. Cloud and David, and a few others make me confident that there was only the weird object.
Blah blah blah DENIED


aside....I notice that taking away your histronics, you really have nothing of value to offer....certainly you haven't provided any evidence for your claims...


Why is that?
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
The issue in this thread is not the passengers. YOU ARE CHANGING THE SUBJECT because you can't prove the basic and most important thing on 911, that there were real planes.
You're ******** me right?! It IS the issue. If planes were not used where are the people who are meant to have boarded those flights?

Stop it with the grinning already! Pissing on people's graves isn't funny!
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It becomes one when you laugh at their deaths.




The accepted scenerio is that there were planes...your assertion doesn't change that one tiny bit.

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I'm not doing that in any way. The facts prove that something that wasn't a plane was involved in the south tower. That is factual but the accepted scenario is true because not many know about the no real plane truth.
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One was a real-time witness, not many of those survived and his elaboration on what he saw was incredible. He corroborates the live footage.
Irrelevant...we know what happened that day...you just are a little slow (10 years) on picking up the fact that you have no argument...
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You're ******** me right?! It IS the issue. If planes were not used where are the people who are meant to have boarded those flights?

Stop it with the grinning already! Pissing on people's graves isn't funny!
That's your burden. I would play the defense which does not have the burden of proof. The orb is reasonable doubt all by itself because it stands alone.
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[quote=7forever;8302928]I'm not doing that in any way.['quote]

Every time you use the


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The facts prove that something that wasn't a plane was involved in the south tower. That is factual but the accepted scenario is true because not many know about the no real plane truth.
do you somehow think that by using the word "facts", it makes something more "factual"?....it doesn't.


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Two witnesses debunk planes which is confirmed by 4 broadcasts that aired an orb, not a plane. YOU GOT NOTHIN'.
He's starting to remind me of that guy who kept repeating 3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS!!11!1!2
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That's your burden. I would play the defense which does not have the burden of proof. The orb is reasonable doubt all by itself because it stands alone.
So this was a passenger carrying orb then?
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
That's your burden.
Only someone ignorant about how science "works" would make such an assinine remark...the burden is yours.

Argument DENIED


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I would play the defense which does not have the burden of proof. The orb is reasonable doubt all by itself because it stands alone.

OK...if you're not going to present a rational argument, just say so, and I can go do something more "fullfilling"
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I can't see the orb in those videos. Is it hiding behind that big, obvious jet plane that crashes straight into the tower?

It's strange how the orb vanishes in higher quality images. Why, it's almost as if in poor quality video where everything looks pretty much like a blob, a distant airliner can look pretty much like a blob...
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I can't see the orb in those videos. Is it hiding behind that big, obvious jet plane that crashes straight into the tower?

It's strange how the orb vanishes in higher quality images. Why, it's almost as if in poor quality video where everything looks pretty much like a blob, a distant airliner can look pretty much like a blob...
It's a flickering orb that circles the south tower. It's easy. WNBC is the best footage from 911 and it shows an orb, not a plane coming from the west.
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It's a flickering orb that circles the south tower. It's easy. WNBC is the best footage from 911 and it shows an orb, not a plane coming from the west.
Your "job" is to present a rational argument "backing up" that claim.

Why are you finding it so difficult to do so????
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Originally Posted by 7forever View Post
It's a flickering orb that circles the south tower. It's easy. WNBC is the best footage from 911 and it shows an orb, not a plane coming from the west.
I ask again, was this orb carrying passengers? If not how do you account for the deaths of these people?
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So when are you going to answer that post of mine with the CNN video clearly showing a plane? #472. It's certainly a news broadcast.
That video must be from some other day since it doesn't show an orb circling the towers.
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You don't have to prove an orb's an orb, but that an orb was a plane. How would you do that?
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Post the highest definition video possible and hi-light the features

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Your "job" is to ignore that you can't prove planes.

I know why you're finding it so difficult to do so, because you can't prove a lie.
What happened to the Hanson family?



Peter Hanson called from Flight 175, the call ended the moment the plane hit the South Tower.
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Like all the sane folks here do, when you post a plane and call it an orb?
Go ahead and post a picture of a real plane next to the orb. It aired 4 times. That's the proof that it wasn't a plane.

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You are so biased that you can't conceive of being wrong....that's about as foolish as you can get.


Done and done...
I'm only wrong if the orb was a plane. It's not. Bias is saying anything was a plane, including and most importantly the orb.
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I know you can't answer the question...
Is that it....if I don't anwer your ignorant question, then 911 was faked?


You have a very low threshhold of evidence....stupidly so...
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I'm only wrong if the orb was a plane. It's not. Bias is saying anything was a plane, including and most importantly the orb.
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I'm only wrong if the orb was a plane. It's not. Bias is saying anything was a plane, including and most importantly the orb.
The orb was an alien space ship. They don't like being talked about...so they will be coming for you...


We'll understand when you suddenly stop posting...have a nice trip.
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Go ahead and post a picture of a real plane next to the orb. It aired 4 times. That's the proof that it wasn't plane.
Thousands of dead bodies proves it was a plane.
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...no one would be believe it's a plane as long as someone's saying it's not.
But you are saying it's not. And everyone else believes it's a plane. So you are wrong. QED

Why do you think the whole world except for a few obsessive nuts think it's a plane?
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But you are saying it's not. And everyone else believes it's a plane. So you are wrong. QED

Why do you think the whole world except for a few obsessive nuts think it's a plane?
That's not true. I've started showing normal people the footage and they know it's not a plane because it's not. It doesn't matter what you think it is or want it to be, only that it can't really be anything but a ufo that was absurdly coined a plane by media drones.
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Exactly the only response you can give. Making fun of the fact that the object wasn't a plane and changing the subject, something you couldn't do in a real debate.
Another thing you can't do in real debate is claim somethings fake without proof.

Can we expect those hi-def videos anytime soon?

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