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24th February 2013, 07:45 PM | #1841 |
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24th February 2013, 10:09 PM | #1845 |
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24th February 2013, 10:29 PM | #1846 |
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Im confused. are the no planers saying all the videos were faked, and all the witnesses were wrong. Or are they saying the plane was projected into the air in some way.
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25th February 2013, 12:54 AM | #1852 |
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25th February 2013, 01:01 AM | #1853 |
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You should be able to tell us. After all, you're smarter than 99.78 of the people on this planet. ETA - back on topic, several people responded to your "ghostlike image of a partial plane" post on page 41. Have you got around to reading these replies yet, and if so, can you confirm that you understand what's being explained to you with regard to video resolution? |
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OK Clayton; I'll throw the same gauntlet down that yankee451 has refused to pick up so far. I'm a broadcast television professional of 30+ years in the business with camera, editing and transmission expertise: tell me precisely how you think the "videos were fiddled with and fed live to the public"?
Was this all in real time? What 2001-era equipment was being used? (software versions would be a nice addition) What was the workpath? Unspecified "fiddled with" just won't cut it as an answer. Also, why don't you confer with miragememories for his input on the matter. That way you can have a TV-truther's input if you'll take it Time to put up or shut up Fitz |
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There's no alternative explanation with any evidence, besides Al Qaeda. Or do you count alternative definitions of Symmetrical, Pull, Looks Like CD, and New Pearl Harbor as evidence? In any case, you conveniently left out the second half of my post about if 'twere the Gubmit.
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You can always tell a Truther's grasp on reality - tenuous or otherwise - by how they believe a 90-ton airliner traveling at 730 feet per second should react when it impacts a comparatively thin lattice work of steel box beams, spandrels, aluminum cladding and glass.
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25th February 2013, 10:37 AM | #1859 |
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All you need to do is rely on being able to intercept every single live TV feed in one of the most media dense cities on the planet, then rely on being able to also intercept every single private video and possible still camera in an area where the mean income allows a great many peope the ability to own video or still cameras.
Yeah fewest possible contingencies there Clayton!
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This was never a thing anyone needed to depend on given that even if the planes had been shot down or crashed into Central Park there would STILL be a couple of hundred dead Americans! |
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Of course you also have to fake air traffic control radar, flight data recorder data, airline records, and somehow make all the passengers disappear (or create vicsims, with personal histories so detailed and complete that nobody will ever be able to prove they didn't exist). Of course, evil gubmint conspirators can do anything, because they're magic.
In the real world, once the hijackers had control of the planes, it was mission accomplished. At worst, they were going to kill the passengers. Actually hitting the buildings was a bonus, having the WTC buildings collapse was even more of a bonus. Even if the WTC towers didn't collapse, the fires would have killed several hundred people in addition to plane passengers, and rendered the WTC buildings useless. Of course, the same logic applies to the hypothetical "false flag" government operation. There was simply no need for the convoluted plot that the "no planes" scenario requires. Even assuming that somebody in the government was evil enough to murder a few thousand American citizens to further their agenda, and arrogant/stupid enough to believe they could get away with it, simply blowing up the buildings or flying planes into them would have gotten the job done. Blowing up the buildings and flying planes into them or faking the flying of planes into them would have been the antithesis of the "minimum contingency" principle. |
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Yes, IIRC, we have had no-planers here who believed the planes were holograms. Of course, creating a hologram visible in broad daylight from all possible angles is a task that makes editing a few hundred videos pale by comparison, but it does "explain" the eyewitnesses, without invoking "they were all bought off or intimidated".
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25th February 2013, 11:33 PM | #1871 |
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