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20th March 2017, 08:38 AM | #81 |
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20th March 2017, 09:00 AM | #82 |
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FBI Director Comey on Russia: "They wanted to hurt our democracy, hurt her, help him."
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20th March 2017, 09:14 AM | #83 |
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Keep it coming, Stacko. I had to turn off CNN because of all the GOP harping on the other witch hunt they have in mind. I wonder what is the greater crime, leaking, or waiting until the new Director of National Intelligence and others on the incoming team make sure it is swept under the rug?
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20th March 2017, 09:17 AM | #84 |
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20th March 2017, 09:25 AM | #85 |
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20th March 2017, 09:36 AM | #86 |
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Sure but I think I can see what he was trying to get at. Were the Russians getting involved solely because they wanted Hillary to lose (i.e. the were implacably opposed to her for some reason, like they couldn't bear that someone who was a little careless with their emails was in the White House ) and would have been happy to see any Republican in the White House instead or were they getting involved in order that Donald Trump was going to be elected.
Of course, if the interference came after the primaries then it's a difference without distinction unless anyone seriously thinks that a third party candidate would have won. Personally if I was a US citizen, I think a candidate that Putin doesn't like is a good thing YMMV. |
20th March 2017, 09:43 AM | #87 |
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How has no Dem asked, "Why did Comey confirm Clinton probe but not Trump probe pre-election?" Almost makes you feel sorry for the fools that wanted insurance for everybody and worried about a POTUS under FBI investigation
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20th March 2017, 09:47 AM | #88 |
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20th March 2017, 09:55 AM | #90 |
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There is a distinction.
When many of the protests erupted after the Trumpsters' election, I recall a lot of derision towards the protesters as " upset because their candidate lost ". I usually retorted that that was a mis-characterization of the sentiment. The protesters were angry that Trump was elected, not that Hillary was not. Had a third party candidate won instead of Trump, the protesters (Hillary supporters or otherwise) would not have been out in such numbers. |
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And there's the foreboding warning, "They'll be back." Comey says Russia will view 2016 intervention as successful.
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The Republicans obsession about leaking right now:
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20th March 2017, 10:37 AM | #96 |
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Stewart: "What can I do and not do?" How about, gosh, not break the law?
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Try reading this for some perspective:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-media-w471074 Hope it helps. |
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20th March 2017, 11:03 AM | #103 |
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And now it's Adam Schiff's turn.
Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?" Comey, "No." Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?" Comey, "No." Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?" Comey, "No." Repeat ad nauseam. |
20th March 2017, 11:07 AM | #104 |
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So many accusations. Not one fact.
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20th March 2017, 11:12 AM | #105 |
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Comey won't comment, unless it's HC two weeks before the election. So, that "no smear" rule is itself smeared.
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20th March 2017, 11:19 AM | #108 |
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Guy talking now is doing his best to confuse the baseline level of Russian interference with the focused attack favoring Trump.
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20th March 2017, 11:33 AM | #109 |
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I've asked before and if it's been answered bear with me. The linked story here comes from the Washington Post, but the issue was reported on by many news outlets:
Trump admits to Russian hacking even as he attacks U.S. intelligence community What changed Trump's mind? He dismissed the claim that Russia had compromising information on him as "fake news." But something must have been said to him, or shown to him, that led him to finally concede Russian involvement. One explanation is that he was shown or told about Russian surveillance of Trump himself. I can't imagine anything else changing his mind. Digital footprints wouldn't have done it; it would have to be a smoking gun, IMO. Something simple that Donald could understand. The existence of video he hadn't known about, or possibly even the video itself, probably would have done it. But has he or anyone else ever said what changed his mind? |
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Who's pretending anything? The distinction is real, and important. If the Russians tried to influence the outcome in order to defeat Hillary Clinton- obviously they would pick the person likely to defeat her (Trump, in this case) to aid- that does not indicate any fondness for Trump, only disdain for Clinton. OTOH, if they decided to aid Trumps campaign because they expect something in return from Trump, or because they feel Trump will harm the country in some way that another candidate wouldn't, the implications are different.
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Gowdy is on a typical high horse that confuses the appearance of one thing with the reality of another. He's good, though, but he seems to be using words that he can spin to be on any winning side.
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If Trump's genius 3-dimensional chess master plan in accusing Obama of wiretapping his phones was to get people to stop talking about his campaign's Russia connections and to make intelligence bigwigs deny that those connections were being investigated, it just backfired spectacularly.
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As did Putin's supporting of Trump. It has made any softening of US policy toward Russia political Kryptonite for the GOP.
Some even feel that PUtin main goal was just causing disruption in the US Political System,with electing Trump a secondary goal. |
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No, no, no. According to the Ponderers of All Things Trump, what's actually going on here is that he pointed to the "wiretaps" to get people to stop talking about his campaigns Russia connections PRECISELY because he'd figured out that the FBI would eventually go public with their investigation. See, they'll never actually charge him with anything because Hillary was never charged with anything, so once he gets past this, not only will he have proven that all other news is fake, but he'll be able to show that he needs to do away with the FBI & replace them with his hand picked agency.
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