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Old 11th April 2009, 01:58 PM   #1801
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
No, I have green/blue eyes. Hitler had brown eyes.

Nice ad hom by the way. Learn to attack the message, not the messenger.
You guys are so touchy. There was no ad hom intended but if you want to pretend there was then knock yourself out Parky.
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Old 11th April 2009, 01:58 PM   #1802
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
he was talking about me. he is saying that a good Jew would be a Truther-Jew.

Let him speak for himself, he's rather new here, he may not have known you're Jewish.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:01 PM   #1803
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
he was talking about me. he is saying that a good Jew would be a Truther-Jew.

then he said I almost look like Hitler. nice huh?

I'm not going to get into this in a big way, but how would have known you were Jewish in the first place ?

I meant government loyalists of course.
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The end of the what??? October is coming to an end????

After you end October, you gonna take on the Holocaust, the Titanic, March, April, and May?
That's a delicate issue indeed. When this 9/11-subject will find it's end as expected, I certainly will feel an emptyness, a void, nay a vacuum. Fortunately that mystery is not completely solved yet. The real interesting part, meaning it's social implications, and of course whodunnit, has yet to emerge.

Let's count out possibilities like adding Denmark to the illustrious list of countries belonging to the Axis of Evil, let alone bestow the brave Vikings with a few daisycutters for free, it will be quite interesting to see how the American society will react to this unprecedented situation. I still have enough faith in the Americans that they will react appropiately and 'take their country back' without creating a too great a mess.

P.S. the Titanic run on an iceberg. It's as boring as that. Much more interesting is a story on the Lusitania. Since a couple of weeks we know that the Germans were right after all.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:03 PM   #1805
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I can hardly believe that most guys of your persuasion still say there is no need for a new and independent 9/11 investigation.
Do you honestly think we don't know that is just a bluff? There could be 100 more investigations done and i have no doubt that no matter who did them, as long as they don't see it as an evil conspiracy by the jews/masons/satanist/bilderberg/bankers and now obama. You 9/11 cult nutjobs will just claim they weren't valid, that the scientists and experts are all in on it and conspiring against your cult and all of society, and there would be more demands for more investigations.

You don't fool me for a second, you will keep beating that dead horse no matter what.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:05 PM   #1806
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Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
I meant government loyalists of course.
But why would "government loyalists" as you call them want a new investigation?

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Old 11th April 2009, 02:07 PM   #1807
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Originally Posted by 9/11-investigator View Post
Much more interesting is a story on the Lusitania. Since a couple of weeks we know that the Germans were right after all.
Yeah, the Germans shot it, and ordinance inside blew up. Big woop. Then they took out 2 more American boats, and we finally declared war.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:08 PM   #1808
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
he was talking about me. he is saying that a good Jew would be a Truther-Jew.

then he said I almost look like Hitler. nice huh?

From what i have seen, their "conspiracy" is just a rewrapped version of the same old, weak, "it's the jews running the world" game.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:09 PM   #1809
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Typical Truther, trying to use insults to distract us from the fact that he just got his ass handed to him.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:10 PM   #1810
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Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
I meant government loyalists of course.
why the pointless strawman attack?

can't we just be average Joes who disagree with you?

why do we ALWAYS have to be "government loyalists", or "Mossad agents", or "Zionist moles", or "Neo-Con spies"?

does it hurt your theory THAT MUCH to think you are just debating with fellow Americans who profoundly disagree?

unbelievable. I have never seen such a bunch of hateful people before. they cannot stand opposition and will attack anything that moves, if it dares to not step in line.

so much for democracy and freedom of thought. this is why i liken some truthers to National Socialists.

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Old 11th April 2009, 02:10 PM   #1811
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Do you honestly think we don't know that is just a bluff? There could be 100 more investigations done and i have no doubt that no matter who did them, as long as they don't see it as an evil conspiracy by the jews/masons/satanist/bilderberg/bankers and now obama. You 9/11 cult nutjobs will just claim they weren't valid, that the scientists and experts are all in on it and conspiring against your cult and all of society, and there would be more demands for more investigations.

You don't fool me for a second, you will keep beating that dead horse no matter what.
It's time for somebody to start a new thread on the composition of a new 9/11 enquiry. That will be a very difficult task and the debate should start now.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:11 PM   #1812
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Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
It's time for somebody to start a new thread on the composition of a new 9/11 enquiry. That will be a very difficult task and he debate should start now.
Do a search on this forum first. It's been done to death
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:13 PM   #1813
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:19 PM   #1814
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
why the pointless strawman attack?

can't we just be average Joes who disagree with you?

why do we ALWAYS have to be "government loyalists", or "Mossad agents", or "Zionist moles", or "Neo-Con spies"?

does it hurt your theory THAT MUCH to think you are just debating with fellow Americans who profoundly disagree?

unbelievable. I have never seen such a bunch of hateful people before. they cannot stand opposition and will attack anything that moves, if it dares to not step in line.

so much for democracy and freedom of thought. this is why i liken some truthers to National Socialists.
A matter this serious will always divide into two or more camps. Heated exchanges and opposite opinions lead to sides and labeling automatically.
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A matter this serious will always divide into two or more camps. Heated exchanges and opposite opinions lead to sides and labeling automatically.
nice excuse. its BS. but its an excuse.

especially when truthers whine day and night about "debunker" personal attacks.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:21 PM   #1817
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It's time for somebody to start a new thread on the composition of a new 9/11 enquiry. That will be a very difficult task and he debate should start now.
And who would your group consider credible once the investigations conclusions didn't go your way? Noone... The cult has already rejected multiple investigations and inquiries, and also rejected thousands and thousands of experts. Some of them of the best in their fields.

Not to mention how the cult throws instant inclusion of culpability at anyone that doesn't automatically agree with their wild, ever changing stories.

So whose investigation would you accept even if they didn't agree with you?

It's quite obvious that you guys aren't looking for "the truth".
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:22 PM   #1818
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You didn't answer my question, Bill.

Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
I can hardly believe that most guys of your persuasion still say there is no need for a new and independent 9/11 investigation.
Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
I meant government loyalists of course.
Why can't you believe that "government loyalists" say that there is no need for another investigation?

Your post doesn't make any sense.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:22 PM   #1819
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He explained himself a little better. Let's laugh at him for the correct reason, guys. He thought that parky's avatar was a picture of parky.

At least, he'd like for us to think that he made that mistake rather than making an insult based on parky's heritage.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:23 PM   #1820
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Bill- we have all known, for quite some time, that most if not all truthers would NEVER accept any investigation, no matter how independent and unbiased, if it did not agree with the "9-11 was an Inside Job" cult mantra.

admit it. you would not accept it either. you have made up your mind and nothing can change it.
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:23 PM   #1821
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But why would "government loyalists" as you call them want a new investigation?
They absolutely do not want one. You know it and I know it.
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nice excuse. its BS. but its an excuse.

especially when truthers whine day and night about "debunker" personal attacks.
That's what cults do.

It's classic for cults to completely demonize and insult those not in the cult, and they later try to play the persecution complex... If only i had a nickel for everytime i seen that game played...
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Old 11th April 2009, 02:24 PM   #1823
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Nope - 700°C is higher than the melting point of Aluminium - why aren't any of their samples showing globules of aluminium?

We know that independent analysis confirmed iron-rich spheres. Jones' paper proves that a source of iron-rich spheres is burnt paint.
Where are you going with this one?

Our favorite thermite reaction:

Fe2O3 + 2Al -> 2Fe + Al2O3 + Heat

Shouldn't you be making a comment about Al2O3 spheres?

However, Al2O3 has a melting point of 2054 C.....

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id be happy to see a new independent investigation, if 9-11 truthers swore under oath to end ANY and ALL political/lobbying/activist activity once the investigation came to its conclusions, under pain of fine and imprisonment.

Bill- i would accept the findings of a truly independent, scientific, expert, new investigation, ragardless of its findings...INCLUDING if it said "the wtc appears to have come down due to an explosive or accelerant".

would you, on the other hand, accept the same investigatory findings, if it said "the wtc towers came down due to the impact damage of the plane, weakened steel, and gravity. no explosives or accelerants were used"????????

would you accept such findings??

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They absolutely do not want one. You know it and I know it.
Then why did you say "I can hardly believe"?

Seems pretty logical to me.
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Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
Bill- we have all known, for quite some time, that most if not all truthers would NEVER accept any investigation, no matter how independent and unbiased, if it did not agree with the "9-11 was an Inside Job" cult mantra.

admit it. you would not accept it either. you have made up your mind and nothing can change it.
The same the other way Parky. Oneside or the other will findit tough to accept. So be it.I know one thing....we will not accept an enquiry hat looks like a set up. That's why it will be dificult.

The trouble for you guys is is that the government has been judged at the kitchen tables of half the world already.
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[quote=JamesB;4608711]Heh, Harritt in that Dutch TV interview estimates they used as much as 100 tons of nanothermite in the buildings. 100 tons, yeah, nobody is going to notice that. This is what a mere 10 tons of conventional explosives looks like.




I don't remember much about chemistry (I took it in high school), but when people talk about 100 tons of explosives getting snuck into an office building, why doesn't the discussion end right there?
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It's time for somebody to start a new thread on the composition of a new 9/11 enquiry. That will be a very difficult task and the debate should start now.
That 'difficult task' is an understatement. You're asking the American establishment to commit suicide.

I'll predict that 'change' will come from 'below', comparable to the situation in the GDR, 1989.

Obama promised Change.

He will get: 'We Are Change':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBzLTjVMhY

Emanuel and Axelrodt are not going to like it...

... and Obama will continue to read aloud whatever will appear on his teleprompter.
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They absolutely do not want one. You know it and I know it.
Must of us don't care if there was a new investigation or not as long as we don't have to pay for it. We're confident that the results won't differ to any appreciable degree from any previous investigation.

Why waste the time and money?
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Then why did you say "I can hardly believe"?

Seems pretty logical to me.
I crossed my fingers when I said it.
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Emanuel and Axelrodt are not going to like it...
ahh..the two Jews.....I mean "Zionists".
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