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22nd June 2017, 01:36 PM | #1 |
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Now he is tilting at windmills
And he never lets facts stand in the way of his opinions.
Trump Criticizes Wind Power in Iowa
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22nd June 2017, 02:09 PM | #2 |
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And Iowa GOP leaders were quick to disassocitate themselves from Trump's remarks.
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22nd June 2017, 02:12 PM | #3 |
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You'd think a major windbag would be in favor of wind power.
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22nd June 2017, 02:16 PM | #4 |
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22nd June 2017, 02:19 PM | #5 |
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If Trump is Don Quixote, who is his Sancho Panza?
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22nd June 2017, 02:24 PM | #6 |
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22nd June 2017, 02:31 PM | #7 |
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That's bad. Having an unpopular opinion or policy is one thing, but what a complete moron. I really can't believe how stupid he is. I've talked about this with friends and family but not so much here (I voted for the moron). I still want some good to come out of this but it looks unlikely. The guys at the local pub probably have more well thought out opinions and ideas than Trump, and that's bad. Let's hope we can come up with some actual candidates next time around (ya right). But gawdamn he is stoopid. |
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22nd June 2017, 02:47 PM | #8 |
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When it's not lying in an attempt to get the tiniest advantage, it's just straight-up dumb.
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22nd June 2017, 02:54 PM | #9 |
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Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.
Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing. Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast? |
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22nd June 2017, 03:05 PM | #10 |
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22nd June 2017, 03:10 PM | #11 |
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What gets to me is what does he gain by this?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. He whole vendetta against Renewable Energy makes no sense anyway. If you want to promote more self suffiency in power for America, you encourage development on all fronts. But for some wiered reason Donnie hates renewable resources. If you want to encourage more use of coal..provided it does not created a bigger pollution problem,fine. But that is no reason to knock everything else. |
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22nd June 2017, 03:11 PM | #12 |
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Biggest Con Man to hit Iowa since Professor Harold Hill....
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22nd June 2017, 03:30 PM | #13 |
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22nd June 2017, 07:00 PM | #16 |
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22nd June 2017, 07:11 PM | #18 |
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22nd June 2017, 07:25 PM | #19 |
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Trump’s ideas on energy are not only stupid they are in fact just corrupt. Trump isn't going to bring back coal jobs. He might make his millionaire friends in the coal industry more money but nothing else.
But Trump's problem with wind may have more to do with a battle with an offshore wind development he fought and lost in Scotland. He saw them as an eyesore to his golf course and of course employed his scorched earth tactics which made him a hated man in the old country. |
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23rd June 2017, 07:28 AM | #22 |
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Yep, the people in Iowa should be realizing they were sold a con-job. Trump tried to sell himself as a "man of the people", and his commitment to the coal miners was supposedly the example of that. Folks in Iowa saw that and thought, hey, he cares about people like me! He'll care for us like he cares for the coal miners.
Now they are realizing that, no, he didn't care about them. He is so committed to pleasing the coal miners that he just threw everyone else under the bus. He doesn't care about "people like the coal miners" it is only about the coal miners. The windmill industry in Iowa creates a lot of jobs. From the manufacturing in Newton, to transport, to construction, to operation (we used to see pieces being shipped on the road all the time - an individual blade is an oversized load on a flatbed trailer; it was impressive). But he's happy for them to go out of business to save the coal miners in West Virginia. I hope they wake up and smell the manure he's shoveling. |
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23rd June 2017, 08:53 AM | #24 |
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Spain is doing quite well in the industry, by the way. Curiously, it is a smaller German firm in the field, Siemens, that is going to merge with larger and third largest, Gamesa, to up competitiveness. A Catalan firm, Ecotčcnia, was bought by Alstom in 2007, then by GE, and is now second in turbines. Overall, a Dutch firm leads the industry.
Trump might as well have ranted about people walking and talking on newfangled cell phones at the same time. Like, rude! |
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Windmills probably need to be a part of any long-term energy solution, but they are poorly suited for many places, are generally considered aesthetically unpleasant, and are as reliable as the wind. They are nowhere as near as good a solution as nuclear, and the cost is not dropping nearly as fast as solar.
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Maybe Trump can build an aesthetically pleasing coal plant next to his golf course. That's a win-win for him.
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Wind power once crossed him. Now, when encountered, wind power must always be punished.
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24th June 2017, 04:20 PM | #36 |
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So after rant about wind, did he then rant about corn too?
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Please, PLEASE, let a power company propose siting a big stinky fossil plant next to one of his courses. Doesn't even have to be coal, just ugly. That would be awesome. Of course, he wouldn't take any notice of it, being totally separated from his businesses; completely tiny-little-hands-off.
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