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Old 22nd June 2017, 01:36 PM   #1
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Now he is tilting at windmills

And he never lets facts stand in the way of his opinions.

Trump Criticizes Wind Power in Iowa

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Trump has a longstanding grudge against wind power, stretching back to before his days in politics. As a developer, he fought plans to install a wind farm off the coast of one of his golf courses in Aberdeen, Scotland, which he argued would destroy the aesthetic value of his property. In 2012, he sent a letter to the then-head of the Scottish government where he called wind turbines “monsters” and described the wind farm project as “insanity.”
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And Iowa GOP leaders were quick to disassocitate themselves from Trump's remarks.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 02:12 PM   #3
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You'd think a major windbag would be in favor of wind power.
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You'd think a major windbag would be in favor of wind power.
He's afraid he'll lose his monopoly.
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If Trump is Don Quixote, who is his Sancho Panza?
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Old 22nd June 2017, 02:24 PM   #6
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Trump has a longstanding grudge against wind power, stretching back to before his days in politics. As a developer, he fought plans to install a wind farm off the coast of one of his golf courses in Aberdeen, Scotland, which he argued would destroy the aesthetic value of his property.
He's got something in common with Ted Kennedy, then.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 02:31 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by fishbob View Post
And he never lets facts stand in the way of his opinions.

Trump Criticizes Wind Power in Iowa

That's bad. Having an unpopular opinion or policy is one thing, but what a complete moron.

I really can't believe how stupid he is. I've talked about this with friends and family but not so much here (I voted for the moron). I still want some good to come out of this but it looks unlikely. The guys at the local pub probably have more well thought out opinions and ideas than Trump, and that's bad.

Let's hope we can come up with some actual candidates next time around (ya right).

But gawdamn he is stoopid.
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When it's not lying in an attempt to get the tiniest advantage, it's just straight-up dumb.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 02:54 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by fishbob View Post
Now he is tilting at windmills
Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.

Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing.

Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast?
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.

Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing.

Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast?
No. But he's not a politician. He's a con man.
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
That's bad. Having an unpopular opinion or policy is one thing, but what a complete moron.

I really can't believe how stupid he is. I've talked about this with friends and family but not so much here (I voted for the moron). I still want some good to come out of this but it looks unlikely. The guys at the local pub probably have more well thought out opinions and ideas than Trump, and that's bad.

Let's hope we can come up with some actual candidates next time around (ya right).

But gawdamn he is stoopid.
What gets to me is what does he gain by this?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

He whole vendetta against Renewable Energy makes no sense anyway. If you want to promote more self suffiency in power for America, you encourage development on all fronts. But for some wiered reason Donnie hates renewable resources. If you want to encourage more use of coal..provided it does not created a bigger pollution problem,fine. But that is no reason to knock everything else.
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Biggest Con Man to hit Iowa since Professor Harold Hill....
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Old 22nd June 2017, 03:30 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
If Trump is Don Quixote, who is his Sancho Panza?
Actually, I think he more resemble's Sancho's mount.
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Actually, I think he more resemble's Sancho's mount.
The south end of it when Sancho is heading north.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.

Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing.

Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast?
His flip flops make more racket than a women's dormitory.
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What gets to me is what does he gain by this?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

He whole vendetta against Renewable Energy makes no sense anyway. If you want to promote more self suffiency in power for America, you encourage development on all fronts. But for some wiered reason Donnie hates renewable resources. If you want to encourage more use of coal..provided it does not created a bigger pollution problem,fine. But that is no reason to knock everything else.
Except that he also wants "his" idea of Solar Panels on the Mexican Wall, which is, the last time I looked, renewable energy. I am not sure that using Solar Panels on a 3000+K wall is going to do a lot for the coal industry.

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He's got something in common with Ted Kennedy, then.
They're both terrible drivers?
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They're both terrible drivers?
They both don't want wind farms that might interfere with their ocean views.

I also hear they both grab women by the ... anyways, not my point.

No idea about Trump's driving ability, but I don't think he killed anybody yet.
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And he never lets facts stand in the way of his opinions.

Trump Criticizes Wind Power in Iowa
Trump’s ideas on energy are not only stupid they are in fact just corrupt. Trump isn't going to bring back coal jobs. He might make his millionaire friends in the coal industry more money but nothing else.

But Trump's problem with wind may have more to do with a battle with an offshore wind development he fought and lost in Scotland. He saw them as an eyesore to his golf course and of course employed his scorched earth tactics which made him a hated man in the old country.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.

Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing.

Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast?
Whose butt he's licking or who he's currently blowing..........
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No. But he's not a politician. He's a con man.
DITTO!!

Remember how supportive he was of the House health bill and then turned around call the bill, "mean?" Now, Donald "Don Quixote" Trump is attacking windmills.




Time to dump dumb Trump.
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Trump’s ideas on energy are not only stupid they are in fact just corrupt. Trump isn't going to bring back coal jobs. He might make his millionaire friends in the coal industry more money but nothing else.
Yep, the people in Iowa should be realizing they were sold a con-job. Trump tried to sell himself as a "man of the people", and his commitment to the coal miners was supposedly the example of that. Folks in Iowa saw that and thought, hey, he cares about people like me! He'll care for us like he cares for the coal miners.

Now they are realizing that, no, he didn't care about them. He is so committed to pleasing the coal miners that he just threw everyone else under the bus. He doesn't care about "people like the coal miners" it is only about the coal miners.

The windmill industry in Iowa creates a lot of jobs. From the manufacturing in Newton, to transport, to construction, to operation (we used to see pieces being shipped on the road all the time - an individual blade is an oversized load on a flatbed trailer; it was impressive). But he's happy for them to go out of business to save the coal miners in West Virginia.

I hope they wake up and smell the manure he's shoveling.
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If Trump is Don Quixote, who is his Sancho Panza?
I would have said Pence (and I figure conspiracy theorists could do something with the closeness of the name), but my recollection is that Panza was not an idiot.
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Spain is doing quite well in the industry, by the way. Curiously, it is a smaller German firm in the field, Siemens, that is going to merge with larger and third largest, Gamesa, to up competitiveness. A Catalan firm, Ecotčcnia, was bought by Alstom in 2007, then by GE, and is now second in turbines. Overall, a Dutch firm leads the industry.

Trump might as well have ranted about people walking and talking on newfangled cell phones at the same time. Like, rude!
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And Iowa GOP leaders were quick to disassocitate themselves from Trump's remarks.
Another nail in the coffin.
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He's got something in common with Ted Kennedy, then.
Too bad Trump doesn't have the same current residence as Teddy.
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Another nail in the coffin.
Only if their opposition extends beyond words - which I doubt it will...
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Yep, the people in Iowa should be realizing they were sold a con-job. Trump tried to sell himself as a "man of the people", and his commitment to the coal miners was supposedly the example of that. Folks in Iowa saw that and thought, hey, he cares about people like me! He'll care for us like he cares for the coal miners.

Now they are realizing that, no, he didn't care about them. He is so committed to pleasing the coal miners that he just threw everyone else under the bus. He doesn't care about "people like the coal miners" it is only about the coal miners.

The windmill industry in Iowa creates a lot of jobs. From the manufacturing in Newton, to transport, to construction, to operation (we used to see pieces being shipped on the road all the time - an individual blade is an oversized load on a flatbed trailer; it was impressive). But he's happy for them to go out of business to save the coal miners in West Virginia.

I hope they wake up and smell the manure he's shoveling.
Like when the people of River City woke up that Harold Hill was scamming them....
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Wait a sec... first he dislikes them when they want to put some up near his property. Then, during the 2016 election he praised them, even suggesting they deserve government subsidies. Now, he's against them.

Its like his opinion varies based on the way the wind is blowing.

Is there any politician who's opinion changes so much and so fast?
Not his opinion, his choice of presented facts/options. That meet his most recent thought (?) on the topic!!!!!
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Yep, the people in Iowa should be realizing they were sold a con-job. Trump tried to sell himself as a "man of the people", and his commitment to the coal miners was supposedly the example of that. Folks in Iowa saw that and thought, hey, he cares about people like me! He'll care for us like he cares for the coal miners.

Now they are realizing that, no, he didn't care about them. He is so committed to pleasing the coal miners that he just threw everyone else under the bus. He doesn't care about "people like the coal miners" it is only about the coal miners.

The windmill industry in Iowa creates a lot of jobs. From the manufacturing in Newton, to transport, to construction, to operation (we used to see pieces being shipped on the road all the time - an individual blade is an oversized load on a flatbed trailer; it was impressive). But he's happy for them to go out of business to save the coal miners in West Virginia.

I hope they wake up and smell the manure he's shoveling.
They had a chance. When Hillary pointed out their deplorability. But they chose not to take it. They made the wrong choice and they need to eat it and make up for it in a big anti republicker revolt in '18 and a bigger one in "20!!!!!!
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Like when the people of River City woke up that Harold Hill was scamming them....
but he learned his lesson and appears to have reformed!!!!!! Trumpf never will
except in expiration. Which should be soon and hard.
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He's got something in common with Ted Kennedy, then.
Wasn't that a different Kennedy?

Also, his daughter is clearly the Sancho Panza of the administration or maybe Mattis.
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Windmills probably need to be a part of any long-term energy solution, but they are poorly suited for many places, are generally considered aesthetically unpleasant, and are as reliable as the wind. They are nowhere as near as good a solution as nuclear, and the cost is not dropping nearly as fast as solar.
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Maybe Trump can build an aesthetically pleasing coal plant next to his golf course. That's a win-win for him.
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So after rant about wind, did he then rant about corn too?
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Maybe Trump can build an aesthetically pleasing coal plant next to his golf course. That's a win-win for him.
Please, PLEASE, let a power company propose siting a big stinky fossil plant next to one of his courses. Doesn't even have to be coal, just ugly. That would be awesome. Of course, he wouldn't take any notice of it, being totally separated from his businesses; completely tiny-little-hands-off.

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So after rant about wind, did he then rant about corn too?
Probably too much owing to ADM and Cargill. And besides, lib-tards pretty much hate corn ethanol because it takes more petroleum to produce than the energy you get out of it. Although some probably enjoy a Jack Daniel's on occasion.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And Iowa GOP leaders were quick to disassocitate themselves from Trump's remarks.
Disassociation between normal folk and the Trumpian Swamp is a feature of the times.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Although some probably enjoy a Jack Daniel's on occasion.
Still do and long have. Can't say I've seen any impact of this corn-fuel thing.
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Originally Posted by CapelDodger View Post
Still do and long have. Can't say I've seen any impact of this corn-fuel thing.
Increasing the price of corn can't be doing your booze any good.
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