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Old 11th November 2016, 08:51 AM   #1
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Massive Wave of Hate Crimes against minorities follows Trump election.

Trump supporters "celebrate" with physical violence, vandalism, and racist bullying, even by school children.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1352NO

http://usuncut.com/news/trump-suppor...an-california/

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/201...mp-win-n681936

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7410166.html

http://abc7.com/news/students-chant-...mates/1600899/

http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...trumps-america
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Old 11th November 2016, 08:59 AM   #2
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Geeze... didn't see that coming.
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Old 11th November 2016, 09:27 AM   #3
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Far be it for me to defend Trump supporters, but this appears to be a gross exaggeration. There have been several incidents, not a massive wave.

It's incredbly misleading to post a list of links which reference the same few incidents. Weak.
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Old 11th November 2016, 09:39 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
Far be it for me to defend Trump supporters, but this appears to be a gross exaggeration. There have been several incidents, not a massive wave.

It's incredbly misleading to post a list of links which reference the same few incidents. Weak.
Baby steps.

As soon as this behavior becomes the law, we can say hey! We noticed this at the beginning!
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Old 11th November 2016, 10:23 AM   #5
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Baby steps.

As soon as this behavior becomes the law, we can say hey! We noticed this at the beginning!
Irrational tripe.
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Old 11th November 2016, 10:24 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
Far be it for me to defend Trump supporters, but this appears to be a gross exaggeration. There have been several incidents, not a massive wave.

It's incredibly misleading to post a list of links which reference the same few incidents. Weak.
A proper skeptic should come to the same conclusion; until the proper data is available to prove otherwise.

It'll be interesting to see how the FBI's Hate crime statistics compare to previous years. Unfortunately it'll take a a year before that information is available and I fear that since Trump's Administration will have dominion over the FBI, that this information may not be easily available. If the information showed a decrease in Hate Crime, they'd release it; however, if it showed the opposite, they would be motivated to hold it close to their vest.

A slight increase in violent crime in 2015 & 2015 didn't surprise me because of the many riots that made national news. Violent begets more violence.
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Irrational tripe.
Yep. Totally irrational to imagine a person who has cozied up with hate groups and the alt-right will wind up with discriminatory laws.

I'm a maverick like that.
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Old 11th November 2016, 10:36 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
I think you'll need to put together a better argument (or even any argument whatsoever) before claiming that a "Massive Wave of Hate Crimes against minorities follows Trump election." For all we know from what you presented, hate crimes against minorities could have gone down since Trump was elected, or these attacks could just be more fakes of which we've already seen in the last couple of days.

Critical thinking failure.
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Old 11th November 2016, 11:11 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
Far be it for me to defend Trump supporters, but this appears to be a gross exaggeration. There have been several incidents, not a massive wave.

It's incredbly misleading to post a list of links which reference the same few incidents. Weak.
Thanks. I knew the UnCut story was less than credible but I was too tired to address this BS last night.

I'm guessing some Macedonian teens are eating it up though.
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Old 11th November 2016, 11:31 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Navigator View Post
Irrational tripe.
And some here gobble it up willingly
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Old 11th November 2016, 02:08 PM   #11
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Massive...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLaQjKQc6Ww
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Anecdotal, but among my own friends they are saying that what used to be a reliable several times a month/once a week or so 'fact of life' for them has become several incidents in just the past few days, many of them complete with some reference to Trump or "the way things are now."
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Old 11th November 2016, 02:54 PM   #13
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I say at least half of what you will read will be made up. This was an obvious case.
http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/...8.html?reload3


And the other side of this. I predict almost all hate crimes because of this will be attacks on whites. As in this.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=797_1478860868
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Old 11th November 2016, 02:58 PM   #14
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Yeah, lot of fake ones out there.

The LGBTZ who cried wolf.
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Old 11th November 2016, 03:07 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Caper View Post
I say at least half of what you will read will be made up. This was an obvious case.
http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/...8.html?reload3


And the other side of this. I predict almost all hate crimes because of this will be attacks on whites. As in this.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=797_1478860868
Already determined not to be a hate crime or politically-motivated by the police investigating the incident. Try to do a little homework before posting.
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Already determined not to be a hate crime or politically-motivated by the police investigating the incident. Try to do a little homework before posting.
Oh no. It's racial. It might have stemmed from a traffic accident. But takes no time to get very racial and political. They were out for some revenge.
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Old 11th November 2016, 03:16 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Caper View Post
I say at least half of what you will read will be made up. This was an obvious case.
http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/...8.html?reload3


And the other side of this. I predict almost all hate crimes because of this will be attacks on whites. As in this.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=797_1478860868
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Yeah, lot of fake ones out there.

The LGBTZ who cried wolf.
Glad to see y'all doing your part to bring America back together. Thanks for your compassion.
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Old 11th November 2016, 03:20 PM   #18
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Small Child gets beaten to the point of crutches for voting Trump in mock election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIZ6gWKAtdA
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Young girl supports Donald Trump and gets attacked. Probably a little racial motivation as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJenokrmb4
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Old 11th November 2016, 03:28 PM   #20
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Oh no. It's racial. It might have stemmed from a traffic accident. But takes no time to get very racial and political. They were out for some revenge.
You should contact the Chicago police and let them know you disagree with their report. I'm sure they'd appreciate your insight.
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Old 11th November 2016, 03:38 PM   #21
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Young girl supports Donald Trump and gets attacked. Probably a little racial motivation as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfJenokrmb4
In the space of a few posts, you've dismissed out of hand claims of violent attacks by Trump supporters and uncritically accepted a claim of a violent attack by someone who is anti-Trump.

Well done. You're a credit to this forum and critical thinkers everywhere.
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Cherrypicking always gets you the results you want.
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You should contact the Chicago police and let them know you disagree with their report. I'm sure they'd appreciate your insight.
Already did. They didn't care.
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Glad to see y'all doing your part to bring America back together. Thanks for your compassion.
You are a credit skpticism.
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Black child votes Trump in mock election. Mother subjects him to humiliation.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/11/mom-ki...-donald-trump/
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Thugs protesting Donald Trump attack mans dog.
http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2016/11...protest-photo/
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My cousin, born of white British parents, lives two streets away from the house where she was born in the south of England, got called a "wetback" on facebook by someone she has never heard of or befriended because her profile mentions the year she spent studying in Mexico. Brexit made racism acceptable but electing Trump made racism preferable. And we must stand up and say that judging people by ethnicity is neither preferable nor acceptable. We must challenge the people who seek to divide us.
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So far all I've seen is violence from Clinton supporters.

What exactly are they protesting? Maybe we should give them a participation award so they don't feel bad for losing. (and a nice big hug)
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This is what the undercurrent of the Trump movement seems to be; some might feel they have been given a free ride with respect to racism and discrimination.
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Cherrypicking always gets you the results you want.
Indeed - Cherry picking should not be started...
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So far all I've seen is violence from Clinton supporters.

What exactly are they protesting? Maybe we should give them a participation award so they don't feel bad for losing. (and a nice big hug)
Maybe for some people, there was more at stake in this election than the horse race.

Maybe if you actually cared what the answer to your question is, you'd look into it instead of just tossing out degrading presumptions.
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This is what the undercurrent of the Trump movement seems to be; some might feel they have been given a free ride with respect to racism and discrimination.
I'm not seeing this. I will say I think some see it as relaxing the overbearing "political correctness" that has taken over lately.
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Maybe for some people, there was more at stake in this election than the horse race.

Maybe if you actually cared what the answer to your question is, you'd look into it instead of just tossing out degrading presumptions.
What makes you think I don't care?

What do you actually know about me? DGM the person.

I'll give you a start. I'm a self employed construction worker that owns his own company. I'm 57 years old.

As a bonus clue, Today I finished siding the end gable of an addition 26' up a ladder. I don't want to guess how many times up and down.
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Black child votes Trump in mock election. Mother subjects him to humiliation.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/11/mom-ki...-donald-trump/
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Thugs protesting Donald Trump attack mans dog.
http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2016/11...protest-photo/
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I'm not seeing this. I will say I think some see it as relaxing the overbearing "political correctness" that has taken over lately.
I'm sure this will be the theme at the various parades and celebrations the KKK will be holding.
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I'm sure this will be the theme at the various parades and celebrations the KKK will be holding.
Will you be attending?
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Will you be attending?
Why would I attend a KKK event? Also, I don't understand what that emoji is supposed to mean in this context. Could you please explain?
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Why would I attend a KKK event? Also, I don't understand what that emoji is supposed to mean in this context. Could you please explain?
You have a chance to attend one:

http://kdvr.com/2016/11/11/ku-klux-k...orth-carolina/
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Maybe for some people, there was more at stake in this election than the horse race.

Maybe if you actually cared what the answer to your question is, you'd look into it instead of just tossing out degrading presumptions.
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What makes you think I don't care?

What do you actually know about me? DGM the person.

I'll give you a start. I'm a self employed construction worker that owns his own company. I'm 57 years old.

As a bonus clue, Today I finished siding the end gable of an addition 26' up a ladder. I don't want to guess how many times up and down.
You don't work on the south shore do you? I need an addition.
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