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Old 31st May 2018, 08:23 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Yes, I suppose off topic and false attacks suggesting that one's opponents are racist are indeed quite banal, I was referring to the admissions that was what was occurring as being remarkable.

Indeed refreshing!
Again, the language has tripped you. You don't have to be racist to be a racism fan. You simply have to show your enthusiasm and support for widely known racists and their racists actions. That doesn't make you racist unless you are also acting in a racist manner.

For example: I'm a huge fan of drag performers but I am not in fact a drag queen, I am a drag fan. #RuPaulsDragRace (Available on iTunes)
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Old 31st May 2018, 10:28 AM   #362
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
Again, the language has tripped you. You don't have to be racist to be a racism fan. You simply have to show your enthusiasm and support for widely known racists and their racists actions. That doesn't make you racist unless you are also acting in a racist manner.

For example: I'm a huge fan of drag performers but I am not in fact a drag queen, I am a drag fan. #RuPaulsDragRace (Available on iTunes)

I'm not sure that analogy works very well.

To be a fan of a performer means that at least on some level you respect them for what they are doing. You might not be able to do it yourself, but your appreciation for them is rooted in that respect.

To be a fan of racists or bigots suggests that the person respects that racism or bigotry. Hard to do that without sharing their beliefs, because racism and bigotry isn't about talent or ability, it's about beliefs.
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Old 31st May 2018, 11:51 AM   #363
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I'm not sure that analogy works very well.

To be a fan of a performer means that at least on some level you respect them for what they are doing. You might not be able to do it yourself, but your appreciation for them is rooted in that respect.

To be a fan of racists or bigots suggests that the person respects that racism or bigotry. Hard to do that without sharing their beliefs, because racism and bigotry isn't about talent or ability, it's about beliefs.
Yeah, that is a good point about a weakness in my chosen analogy, but I actually think one can have respect for some beliefs they don't share. For instance, I'm a fan of deism. I'm not a deist but I respect those who hold deistic beliefs and I think it is a good place for those who are disillusioned with religion to land. At various times I've also been intrigued by buddhism and Catholicism while never actually believing in the tenants of either. At those times I was fans of those beliefs even if I did not hold them. (Hint: It is very hard to join a Catholic church and not lie about your beliefs that differ from the church teachings. But, they will take your money even if you don't share their beliefs.)

I think you can see this in Priests and other religious leaders who have admitted that they no longer believe the faith, but they believe in the power of the organization. Or even regular Brits who like the COE without believing in the faith. One can be a fan Anglicism without being an Anglican.

ETA: My real point is a linguistic one, though. Calling someone a Nazi fan is not the same as calling someone a Nazi. Further, noting that Nazi fans sure are impacting the price of tiki torches is not calling anyone who buys a tiki torch a nazi fan or a nazi.
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Old 31st May 2018, 01:59 PM   #364
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I'm sure that you find your own words hilarious, but must you end every post with LOL?
I like to do it when I'm mocking logger. LOL
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Old 31st May 2018, 04:42 PM   #365
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I like to do it when I'm mocking logger. LOL
Might be time to give it a rest, in my humble opinion.
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Old 31st May 2018, 06:46 PM   #366
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Might be time to give it a rest, in my humble opinion.
It seems to be serving its purpose. LOL
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Old 31st May 2018, 09:24 PM   #367
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She's done again already?

Are the Republicans planning to run against her in the midterms? Does it matter that she won't be running for any office?

You know, that whole Bengazi thing still hasn't been entirely unraveled. Let's follow that last tattered thread to it's illogical conclusion.
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Old 1st June 2018, 01:09 AM   #368
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She's done again already?

Are the Republicans planning to run against her in the midterms? Does it matter that she won't be running for any office?

You know, that whole Bengazi thing still hasn't been entirely unraveled. Let's follow that last tattered thread to it's illogical conclusion.
Well, I'm afraid Trey Gowdy is now over in RINO-ville. Just too supportive of Mueller and the FBI. So they'll need to get Nunes and some of his whackjob buddies on the next congressional committee (didn't Gowdy ask for a transfer off his old committee, anyway?).
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She's done again already?

Are the Republicans planning to run against her in the midterms? Does it matter that she won't be running for any office?

You know, that whole Bengazi thing still hasn't been entirely unraveled. Let's follow that last tattered thread to it's illogical conclusion.
She’s the gift that keeps on giving.
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Well, I'm afraid Trey Gowdy is now over in RINO-ville. Just too supportive of Mueller and the FBI. So they'll need to get Nunes and some of his whackjob buddies on the next congressional committee (didn't Gowdy ask for a transfer off his old committee, anyway?).
No you have that wrong, he’s establishment and has been since the biginning.
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She’s the gift that keeps on giving.
How absolutely wonderful for you.
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No you have that wrong, he’s establishment and has been since the biginning.
When was that big inning? Bottom of the sixth?





Deep State's gonna gitchu.
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
When was that big inning? Bottom of the sixth?





Deep State's gonna gitchu.
These days, it seems "establishment" means "still has a few political principles."

I don't like Gowdy much, but there are at least some lines he won't cross. I can't predict those lines, honestly, but they seem to exist.

But some seem to think that failure to fall in line and defend Trump on every occasion is an unforgivable sin of being "establishment". So Nunes isn't establishment, but Gowdy is.

ETA: Nunes was first elected in 2003, Gowdy in 2011.

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How absolutely wonderful for you.
I know, how horrible for the left.
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When was that big inning? Bottom of the sixth?
Lol, it’s been the whole game.




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I know, how horrible for the left.
That must be why you are such a winner.
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I know, how horrible for the left.
Newsflash! Older lady wears coat! We knew this act by a non-candidate would totally destroy the left forever!
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Newsflash! Older lady wears coat! We knew this act by a non-candidate would totally destroy the left forever!
Thanks for proving my point!
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Hillary who?
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Thanks for proving my point!
The point being that you have no idea what you are saying?

Yeah, you're welcome.
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Harvard gives Hillary Clinton award for 'transforming society' -- even when you lose you get a trophy

Earlier this year in India Hillary said that sexism and racism were why she lost the election.

But interestingly, when given the choice between endorsing a man or a woman in the New York gubernatorial race, Hillary, the former Empire State Senator and feminist icon who believes people are uneasy with women in leadership, chose to endorse Governor Andrew Cuomo over Cynthia Nixon this week.

New York has never had a woman governor. Wouldn’t electing Nixon be truly transformative? That’s what women were told in 2016 when it came to voting for president.

And yet, there’s something eerily familiar about Hillary’s nixing of Nixon. Mrs. Clinton has always been the queen of the double standard, why should this instance be any different?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...et-trophy.html (May 29, 2018)

This has to be terrible news for all the girl power pussy-hat social justice warriors -- Cynthia Nixon gets snubbed by feminist icon Hillary Clinton.
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This has to be terrible news for all the girl power pussy-hat social justice warriors -- Cynthia Nixon gets snubbed by feminist icon Hillary Clinton.
And they say conservatives are slow?

It took Fox 4 days to come up with that witty headline? And hell, they were inspired by the people who gave the award who termed it "for all her battles, won and lost".

And it took you another four to post it here as breaking news. Please note the outfit. It's one of the back-brace-hiding costumes being discussed above. Do read a few pages now and then.
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There’s plenty more eyebrow-raising passages in the old blog of MSNBC host Joy Reid:

“Everybody knows everything there probably is to know about the Clintons — good and bad. Americans have already taken it into account. That means that Hillary can only do one of two things, when it comes to the non-traditional, general election audiences she needs to woo: she can either confirm their worst suspicions about her (that she’s a social climbing shrew who let her hubby pork another woman and get away with it so she could fulfill her own, venomous and strangely male ambitions) … or, she can pleasantly surprise them, the way she has done with Republican-leaning upstate New Yorkers and Republican members of the Senate. My bet is that Hillary has the discipline and the skills to do the latter.”

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Shrew: a bad-tempered or mean-spirited woman; aggressively assertive woman -- synonyms: witch, hag, battle-ax, old bat.
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Shrew: a bad-tempered or mean-spirited woman; aggressively assertive woman -- synonyms: witch, hag, battle-ax, old bat.
That sounds exactly like what people like yourself, lgger, etc. say about her - so Joy has got you both dead to rights there.
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The point being that you have no idea what you are saying?

Yeah, you're welcome.
The point being the left also cannot stop talking about what a moron she is, I’m happy to explain something so simple to you. Again, how horrible for the left!
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If Hillary was not done, her sleazy *********** husband just put the final nail in the coffin with his complete meltdown after about being called out for his extensive history of sexual abuse and harassment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fd532aceec7b
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It's a true shame that the lying criminal Killary was elected for POTUS.

Now she's ruining everything.
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If Hillary was not done, her sleazy *********** husband just put the final nail in the coffin with his complete meltdown after about being called out for his extensive history of sexual abuse and harassment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fd532aceec7b
The predator in chief sure picked an appropriate time to crawl out from under that rock. Lol
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Impeach them both and never let them stand for President again!


Yawn..........
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The predator in chief sure picked an appropriate time to crawl out from under that rock. Lol
I'm guessing the responses will be something "clever" like "she's not the President lololo"
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He's not either....
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She isn't the President. neither is Bill. Bill in his personal life seems a bit of a sleaze, having an affair with an intern. But guess what. Trump in his personal life seems a bit of a sleaze, married 3 times and cheated on his current wife with at least 2 porn stars, one of them while his wife was pregnant. The virtue signalling from the right wingers in the forum seems very inappropriate when you consider those facts.
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An humble suggestion for a new critical thinking Rule:

Rule of Guess What: when a post includes the phrase "guess what" whataboutism invariably follows....
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An humble suggestion for a new critical thinking Rule:

Rule of Guess What: when a post includes the phrase "guess what" whataboutism invariably follows....
So, guess what, nobody gives a crap about your made up rules.
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Dragging up decades-old sexual misconduct IS whataboutism to distract from current misconduct from people who are in power and actually matter.
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Dragging up decades-old sexual misconduct IS whataboutism to distract from current misconduct from people who are in power and actually matter.
Another fine example of whataboutism.

Guess what. I will certainly take one's complaint to the fine folks at The Today Show and let them know that one does not approve of them having the temerity to question Bill Clinton on their news programs while he is just trying to go out and sell books.
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Is he the president? Does he have any input into matters of state? Are you planning to buy his books? Just asking questions here.
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Is he the president? Does he have any input into matters of state? Are you planning to buy his books? Just asking questions here.
Yes, yes, we get it, leave Bill alone.

check.
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Kennedy's sexual misconduct seems relevant here, too. Didn't he do Marilyn Monroe along with his brother?
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