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Old 16th September 2018, 12:50 PM   #1
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And Nikki Haley is as corrupt as the rest of them

State Department Spent $52,000 on Motorized Curtains for Nikki Haley's Apartment

Hey, if the cow's there for the milking, why not take some milk.

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The U.S. State Department’s budget has been slashed drastically under President Trump. But that hasn’t stopped some high-level people in government from living the high life. According to a new report, the State Department spent a whopping $52,701 on curtains for Nikki Haley’s Manhattan apartment last year.

Why are these curtains so expensive? The New York Times reports that the curtains themselves are just shy of $30,000, still an obscene price by any standard. But an additional $22,800 was spent on the motors that allow the curtains to open and close:
Oh wait, it's really in an apartment provided for her.
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The 6,000 square foot apartment on First Avenue is leased by the State Department for Nikki Haley, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, and costs roughly $58,000 per month. The apartment is used as both Haley’s residence and for entertaining.
They all blame Obama as if they couldn't have reviewed and changed this swampy situation. And Haley of course says, "I didn't do it."
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Old 16th September 2018, 12:57 PM   #2
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This reporting is not accurate.

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An earlier version of this article and headline created an unfair impression about who was responsible for the purchase in question. While Nikki R. Haley is the current ambassador to the United Nations, the decision on leasing the ambassador’s residence and purchasing the curtains was made during the Obama administration, according to current and former officials. The article should not have focused on Ms. Haley, nor should a picture of her have been used. The article and headline have now been edited to reflect those concerns, and the picture has been removed.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
State Department Spent $52,000 on Motorized Curtains for Nikki Haley's Apartment

Hey, if the cow's there for the milking, why not take some milk.



Oh wait, it's really in an apartment provided for her.

They all blame Obama as if they couldn't have reviewed and changed this swampy situation. And Haley of course says, "I didn't do it."
Turns out everything in the above post is bull ****.

“The story noted that the plans to buy the curtains were in the works before Haley was appointed to her position by President Donald Trump, and the decision — in which Haley, the former governor of South Carolina, had no input — was made in 2016, when Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama was in office”

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/09/...r-nikki-haley/

Why bother doing basic research when one can call someone corrupt?
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They need to move that residence to new Jersey.
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The Gizmodo retraction is weaksauce:

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Update, 2:40pm: The New York Times just made an editor’s note to its original story and removed Nikki Haley’s photo. But the basic facts remain the same and the Times appears to have changed its tone but not the substance of the story. The “plan” to buy the curtains was made by the State Department during the Obama administration but they weren’t actually purchased until Trump took power.

In any other era, this would be a fairly non-controversial story about government spending. But because it’s about the Trump regime, they’re sensitive to appearing like crooks. As they should be.
^^^ bad journalist.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Turns out everything in the above post is bull ****.

“The story noted that the plans to buy the curtains were in the works before Haley was appointed to her position by President Donald Trump, and the decision — in which Haley, the former governor of South Carolina, had no input — was made in 2016, when Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama was in office”

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/09/...r-nikki-haley/

Why bother doing basic research when one can call someone corrupt?

Look for an onslaught of Fake News as we get closer to the midterm elections. The Dimms are so predictable.
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Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows View Post
Look for an onslaught of Fake News as we get closer to the midterm elections. The Dimms are so predictable.
Calling "Fake News!" is now the usual fake news.
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I would like to see a photo of the curtains.
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Old 16th September 2018, 02:17 PM   #9
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Is there any chance these were specialized security curtains to prevent spying on that apartment? I don't know what secrets the U.N. ambassador has, but some, probably.
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Old 16th September 2018, 02:53 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Slings and Arrows View Post
Look for an onslaught of Fake News as we get closer to the midterm elections. The Dimms are so predictable.
They corrected it.

Has Trump ever corrected anything?
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
They corrected it.

Has Trump ever corrected anything?
Or any of the actual fake news outlets like True Pundit and YourNewsWire, almost all of which are conservative?
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Look for an onslaught of Fake News as we get closer to the midterm elections. The Dimms are so predictable.
Because one bad piece of reporting proves that everyone's a liar.
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They corrected it.

Has Trump ever corrected anything?
Did the OP, who falsely accused her of being “corrupt”?
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Did the OP, who falsely accused her of being “corrupt”?
She hasn't been back online since posting, but I'm sure she will.
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Old 16th September 2018, 05:10 PM   #15
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I would like to see a photo of the curtains.
Ditto. They've got me really curious about how magnificent these curtains must be. And they better be magnificent.
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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
They corrected it.

Has Trump ever corrected anything?
He did correct this statement about the Russia hacking from

"I don't see any reason it would be Russia" to "I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t, or why it wouldn’t be Russia."


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They corrected it.

Has Trump ever corrected anything?
Obama's birth certificate
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My wish is that all politicians would work together to prevent such extravagant expenses. I'm afraid that instead of that they'll continue to bicker and banter about how corrupt and ill-informed the other side of the isle is.
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Old 16th September 2018, 06:20 PM   #19
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My wish is that all politicians would work together to prevent such extravagant expenses. I'm afraid that instead of that they'll continue to bicker and banter about how corrupt and ill-informed the other side of the isle is.
Yeah, I'll go with that.

I'm sorry but a ~$60K/month apartment and tens of thousands of dollars for motorized drapes is the swamp Trump implied he was draining. You either go into a job like that and say, well, since it's what all the other guys got, who am I to question?

Or you look at the campaign promises Trump made, the POTUS that appointed you, and you put your foot down, stopping extravagant spending. She chose to drink it up just like the rest of them that the administration she joined promised to drain.
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Well, we have gone from Nikki Haley is corrupt to Nikki Haley failed to stop the installation of curtains ordered under the Obama regime.

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Originally Posted by Minoosh View Post
Is there any chance these were specialized security curtains to prevent spying on that apartment? I don't know what secrets the U.N. ambassador has, but some, probably.
That was my first thought as well.

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Yeah, I'll go with that.

I'm sorry but a ~$60K/month apartment and tens of thousands of dollars for motorized drapes is the swamp Trump implied he was draining. You either go into a job like that and say, well, since it's what all the other guys got, who am I to question?

Or you look at the campaign promises Trump made, the POTUS that appointed you, and you put your foot down, stopping extravagant spending. She chose to drink it up just like the rest of them that the administration she joined promised to drain.
But that's not corruption either way.
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Well, we have gone from Nikki Haley is corrupt to Nikki Haley failed to stop the installation of curtains ordered under the Obama regime.

Can you clarify who you are talking about? Because that isnt the conversation here.
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That was my first thought as well.
But that's not corruption either way.
We'll have to agree to disagree here.

You can continue to hold her apart from the Trump scum, especially if it makes you feel better.
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Can you clarify who you are talking about? Because that isnt the conversation here.
Happy to Bob! First, did you see the title of this thread?

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Can you clarify who you are talking about? Because that isnt the conversation here.
That is exactly the arc of Skeptic Ginger's "thinking" on this.
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Happy to Bob! First, did you see the title of this thread?

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Dammit Ginger, you ate making me agree with TBD. Please return to sanity.
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That is exactly the arc of Skeptic Ginger's "thinking" on this.
I'm certainly not going with false accusation.

I'm just popping the faux bubble that she has been painted with. More and more about her has become apparent. First and foremost (after one picks apart her human rights pretense which is no more than blatantly siding with the hardline Israelis) she's supposedly set apart from Trump by this magical aura of being her own woman, above the fray.

But no, she fits right in, pay no attention to that excessive spending going on behind that curtain, Ms Haley is not like the others.

You'd think she was smart enough to be on top of large department expenditures, and you'd think she noticed Carson and Pruitt spending scandals. So she didn't care. Those motorized drapes sure are nice in that apartment mansion. Other ambassadors did it, I'm excused, not like Pruitt.
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It isn't my job to connect dots
Who was the subject of your post?
Oh, I get that and I am totally here to spoon feed you, step by step.

Ok, we will assume that somehow you have not read the thread title. Not surprised!

It is: “and Nikki Haley is as corrupt as the rest of them.”

Do you see it now?

yes

No
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Dammit Ginger, you ate making me agree with TBD. Please return to sanity.
Open your eyes and look behind that wonderful image the one Trump appointment has held.

Put your gears in neutral and see where we are when the dust settles.


BTW, I only read quoted TBD posts.
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I'm certainly not going with false accusation.

I'm just popping the faux bubble that she has been painted with. More and more about her has become apparent. First and foremost (after one picks apart her human rights pretense which is no more than blatantly siding with the hardline Israelis) she's supposedly set apart from Trump by this magical aura of being her own woman.

But no, she fits right in, pay no attention to that excessive spending going on behind that curtain, Ms Haley is not like the others.

You'd think she was smart enough to be on top of large department expenditures, and you'd think she noticed Carson and Pruitt spending scandals. So she didn't care. Those motorized drapes sure are nice in that apartment mansion. Other ambassadors did it, I'm excused, not like Pruitt.
You started out calling her corrupt, and after getting blown up by Snopes, now the goalposts have moved to “not on top of large department expenditures.”

60k sunk cost now qualifying as a “large expenditure” for the State Department?

Yeah, no.
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Open your eyes and look behind that wonderful image the one Trump appointment has held.

Put your gears in neutral and see where we are when the dust settles.


BTW, I only read quoted TBD posts.
Say, maybe you should have waited until the dust settled and done some research before declaring her “corrupt.”
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Open your eyes and look behind that wonderful image the one Trump appointment has held.

Put your gears in neutral and see where we are when the dust settles.


BTW, I only read quoted TBD posts.
My eyes are open.
You were wrong and are now trying to cover it up by moving the goalposts.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Open your eyes and look behind that wonderful image the one Trump appointment has held.

Put your gears in neutral and see where we are when the dust settles.


BTW, I only read quoted TBD posts.
Oh, I missed the part where she told someone to open their eyes, and then edited her post to say that she had me on ignore!

Oh man, that is solid ******* gold!

Bwhahahahaha!

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Oh, I missed the part where she told someone to open their eyes, and then edited her post to say that she had me on ignore!

Oh man, that is solid ******* gold!

Bwhahahahaha!

Those are not mutually exclusive. One can have their eyes while still taking precautions against having excrement smeared in them.
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My eyes are open.
You were wrong and are now trying to cover it up by moving the goalposts.
No goalpost moving, nope. I just see behind the facade and not everyone is looking behind it.
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No goalpost moving, nope. I just see behind the facade and not everyone is looking behind it.
Ate you sure you want to go with "she's corrupt because she allowed the corruption of the Obama administration to continue" ?
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Oh, I get that and I am totally here to spoon feed you, step by step.

Ok, we will assume that somehow you have not read the thread title. Not surprised!

It is: “and Nikki Haley is as corrupt as the rest of them.”

Do you see it now?

yes

No
But who is the one that has gone from two positions?
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But who is the one that has gone from two positions?
Cool, that is a yes!

Now, did you see the very next post by the person who wrote the headline?

Yes

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Originally Posted by kellyb View Post
She hasn't been back online since posting, but I'm sure she will.
You were actually wrong when you first posted this since Skeptic Ginger had been back online in time to see the clarifications. But now she's back in the thread and still hasn't corrected it, moved the goal posts instead.
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