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Old 21st September 2018, 06:11 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBushPilot View Post
Nikki Haley is a neocon shill, one of the long list of appointments beginning with Goldman Sachs appointments very early on through the Abominable ******* himself: Bolton for Christ's sake. If you haven't woken up yet and can't see the total neocon victory there then you have no eyes.

Holding up a picture of a dead baby to justify killing a lot more of them, just no hypocrisy quite like that. Do you think she's clueless that ISIS is our joint creation with Gulf States, particulary Saudi Arabia. We're the air force for ISIS/Al Qaeda or whatever brand you want to put on our Wahhabis in Syria.
You may want to check out the OP.
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Old 21st September 2018, 06:36 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
Probably fake news. I am told Snopes has turned into hot *********** garbage.
I find them to be highly accurate when I agree withe their conclusions.

Anyrate, Haley and the Trump administration should get no more credit for moving the residence than they should get blame for the expensive drapes. It seemed pretty apparent to me what was going on here from the beginning.

Pretty much anytime you see one of these stories about government spending, always check the details before casting blame. A. It often takes longer for the government to implement changes, so appointees are very likely find themselves stuck with their predecessors decisions. B. I'd be surprised if either Haley or the previous ambassador had any idea what any of this costs prior to this story.

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Old 21st September 2018, 07:10 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
Probably fake news. I am told Snopes has turned into hot *********** garbage.
I heard a rumor that the online site that debunks rumors was inaccurate.
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Old 21st September 2018, 08:40 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
I find them to be highly accurate when I agree withe their conclusions.
I think they're really accurate on simplistic issues, stuff like where it's pretty obvious that someone just did something like make up a fake quote, and then the lie spread all over the internet as memes and forwarded emails. You can spend 30 minutes googling stuff yourself to prove it that way, or you can just see if there's already a snopes about it.

With fantastically complex and nuanced issues where it would take weeks or months of study to understand what's going on with that issue (like, if the peer review process behind the "climategate" email thing really might have some degree of bias in play) I'd consider snopes more like a jumping off point than "the final word".
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Old 26th September 2018, 11:14 PM   #125
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Bump, 'cuz who doesn't appreciate Nikki's Sarah Parseltongue imitation at the UN yesterday? Is she auditioning for WhiteHouse Spokesspinner?
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Old 26th September 2018, 11:49 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Bump, 'cuz who doesn't appreciate Nikki's Sarah Parseltongue imitation at the UN yesterday? Is she auditioning for WhiteHouse Spokesspinner?
She's almost as bad as John Kerry.
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Old 26th September 2018, 11:54 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
She's almost as bad as John Kerry.
worse, since she considers her time with Trump as part of her career that will eventually lead to the presidential primaries.
Kelly knows he is done after this, one way or another.
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Old 27th September 2018, 12:20 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
She's almost as bad as John Kerry.
I appreciate that it's late where you are, but flimsy whataboutism? Really?
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Old 27th September 2018, 08:31 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
I appreciate that it's late where you are, but flimsy whataboutism? Really?
The thread is literally a Whataboutism thread.
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Old 27th September 2018, 09:07 AM   #130
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
The thread is literally a Whataboutism thread.
I disagree. I believe it's a "I read this article, and started ranting, and when I found out it was retracted I refused to retract my rant in any way" thread.
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Old 27th September 2018, 09:39 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by LSSBB View Post
I disagree. I believe it's a "I read this article, and started ranting, and when I found out it was retracted I refused to retract my rant in any way" thread.
Also a fair assessment.
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Old 27th September 2018, 09:41 AM   #132
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A link to this discussion should be in the OP's signature.
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Old 27th September 2018, 01:49 PM   #133
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A link to this discussion should be in the OP's signature.
That's a bit Old Testament.
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Old 27th September 2018, 01:54 PM   #134
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That's a bit Old Testament.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But at this point I'm pretty sure Skeptic Ginger's body of work speaks for itself.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Yep, what was Mary's kid thinking?
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I guess those curtains don't matter anymore.

Nikki's prepping for 2020
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Nikki said she's not running for POTUS in 2020 and will be supporting Trump. She's a real star and a real loss, and will be staying on through the end of the year. (75% GOP approval and 55% Dem.)
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I guess those curtains don't matter anymore.

Nikki's prepping for 2020
The curtains never mattered. And even if they had, they wouldn't have been Haley's problem anyway.
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Old 9th October 2018, 07:55 AM   #139
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Speculation: Haley replaces Graham in the Senate when Graham becomes AG.

Any merit?

ETA (and off topic): but wouldn't Graham be foolish to give up a safe Senate seat?
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I'll speculate too,

Is likely Trump will not be running in 2020, so Pence Haley is not so far fetched.
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Nikki said she's not running for POTUS in 2020 and will be supporting Trump. She's a real star and a real loss, and will be staying on through the end of the year. (75% GOP approval and 55% Dem.)
That's literally what everyone says until the time comes.
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Old 9th October 2018, 08:29 AM   #142
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Nikki Haley offers resignation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36896...n-hank-berrien
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That's literally what everyone says until the time comes.
Trump says she will be welcomed back in any capacity she wants. They are obviously good friends and close allies.
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Trump says she will be welcomed back in any capacity she wants. They are obviously good friends and close allies.
...and Haley rightly guesses that Trump is lucky to make it to 2020 at all.
Better to abandon ship before it becomes obvious that you are one of the rats.
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Twittershphere is abuzz with this plan:

Graham replaces Sessions as AG after election.

Haley gets appointed to Graham senate seat.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.....
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
Twittershphere is abuzz with this plan:

Graham replaces Sessions as AG after election.

Haley gets appointed to Graham senate seat.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.....
I really don't see Graham giving up his senate seat to be Trump's AG. I don't think he really likes Trump or what Trump has done to the party. He really seems a Party First kind of guy.
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Maybe not so much anymore...

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Speculation: Haley replaces Graham in the Senate when Graham becomes AG.

Any merit?
Well, it would make Nikki Haley just as corrupt as everyone else who's ever resigned from one political office in order to seek another. Skeptic Ginger's original accusation invited comparison with the previous administration, so it's probably worth mentioning that Barack Obama himself did it once or twice.
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Speculation: Haley replaces Graham in the Senate when Graham becomes AG.

Any merit?

ETA (and off topic): but wouldn't Graham be foolish to give up a safe Senate seat?
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Twittershphere is abuzz with this plan:

Graham replaces Sessions as AG after election.

Haley gets appointed to Graham senate seat.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.....
Duh, sorry somehow I didn't see above post.
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She is being replaced by Richard Grenell (current U.S. Ambassador to Germany).

Pro (from Trump's point of view, not mine): He's very right wing

Con (from the GOP point of view, not mine): He's gay, thusly unpopular with social conservatives.

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In June 2018, Grenell stirred controversy by telling right-wing news outlet Breitbart News, "I absolutely want to empower other conservatives throughout Europe, other leaders."[13] It was viewed as anti-establishment.[14][15] This was described as a breach of diplomatic protocol, as ambassadors are expected to be politically neutral in the domestic politics of the countries where they serve.[13] Prominent German politicians called for Grenell's dismissal.[16][17][18][19] Martin Schulz, former leader of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, said, "What this man is doing is unheard of in international diplomacy. If a German ambassador were to say in Washington that he is there to boost the Democrats, he would have been kicked out immediately."[16]

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Well, it would make Nikki Haley just as corrupt as everyone else who's ever resigned from one political office in order to seek another.
Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm here, but I don't find it corrupt to resign one office to seek another one.

That being said, I still doubt Graham would give up his Senate seat for what might be a difficult 2 year gig as AG.

Lawrence O'Donnell speculated on MSNBC that maybe Haley is resigning to make some real money in the private sector for awhile, before returning to politics. (If so, nothing wrong with that either.)
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Wow, the German's must be thrilled to get rid of Grenell: he has praised the rise of far-right, anti-semitic parties in Europe too many times.
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Ok I take it back. Apparently Trump really is considering Ivanka.
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Wait, Haley has presidential ambitions? She has zero charisma!
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Wait, Haley has presidential ambitions? She has zero charisma!
Seriously?

Or am I missing some comic reference?



I was surprised when she took the UN job. I thought it was kind of a step down from governor. However, a piece I heard yesterday pointed out that now she can credibly claim that she has foreign policy experience......just in case she ever seeks a job where that sort of thing looks good on a resume.


For my part, quitting jobs halfway through the term doesn't look so good on a resume, though, but who knows what she is really thinking or planning at this point.
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Seriously?

Or am I missing some comic reference?



I was surprised when she took the UN job. I thought it was kind of a step down from governor. However, a piece I heard yesterday pointed out that now she can credibly claim that she has foreign policy experience......just in case she ever seeks a job where that sort of thing looks good on a resume.


For my part, quitting jobs halfway through the term doesn't look so good on a resume, though, but who knows what she is really thinking or planning at this point.
I'm just pointing out that she has the charisma of a ping-pong ball.
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I'm just pointing out that she has the charisma of a ping-pong ball.
I suppose charisma is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think your assessment is widely shared.
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For my part, quitting jobs halfway through the term doesn't look so good on a resume, though, but who knows what she is really thinking or planning at this point.
I don't know, seems kind of common for the job.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un...United_Nations

A fair number have stayed for about 4 years, but 2 year stints aren't at all unusual.
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Wait, Haley has presidential ambitions? She has zero charisma!
You probably said the same thing about Trump.

Either way you are incorrect.
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You probably said the same thing about Trump.

Either way you are incorrect.
Oh, no. Trump has some charisma. In fact his one and only talent is to sell himself. So, nice try, but next time base your retroactive predictions on actual fact.

And no, I'm not 'incorrect'. I find that she has no charisma.
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