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![]() I think it's pretty obvious I'm a Progressive Democrat and you are somewhere over there on the right. That is not an argument. You appear to be ignoring everyone who isn't in the alt-right fantasy version of the world. |
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It's not. Bezos doesn't run the Washington Post. He just owns it. I'm from Seattle and Amazon was my biggest customer for a decade. Bezos is one of the least public CEOs anywhere. I know ABSOLUTELY nothing about his social life. As for him being a liar, it's damn hard to find many public statements from Bezos about anything other than Amazon. So how one could say he is a liar is beyond me.
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According to Bogative, we should take Kavanaugh's word on what words mean over everybody else who ever used said words.
It is a twisted conspiracy to take them the way they are used in general. |
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Or maybe words have different meanings to different people.
Example According to The Great Zaganza a major league baseball pitcher legally changed his name to a slang word that meant anal sex and his twisted mother gave him the same nickname for ***** and giggles. |
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I went to work at the Delphi building in Troy, Michigan,, just behind the Oakland Mall. I drove there is my car, a burgundy colored Saturn station wagon, license plate number AKR 859. Nothing remarkable happened. I had gotten back from vacation the day before, and was catching up on what had happened when I had been gone for nine days on vacation.
It was a Tuesday. People were surprised to see me on Monday, because I had facial hair for the first time in my life. I didn't shave while on vacation, a tradition for that particular vacation, which I took every year, but this time I had gone for a longer period than I usually go, so my beard was fuller. I put the shaving cream on my face when I got home Sunday night, and was about to shave it off, when I decided to leave it and see how I liked it. I don't remember anything specific that happened in the evening, but I probably stopped at Alcove Hobby Shop to buy cards for Magic: The Gathering. I had heard of this interesting new game that a lot of my friends were into, and just before leaving on vacation, I had purchased my first deck. I walked up to the counter at the store and the attendant said, "No Dark!". That was the first day of release of a new expansion set, but they were sold out. I didn't know it was the first day of release, and I said I just wanted regular cards, so I bought a starter pack. I instantly loved the game, and was eager to buy more cards when I got back from vacation, so I would definitely have bought cards on Monday, August 22, but probably on Tuesday, August 23, as well. I bought a couple of booster packs most days for the first couple of weeks, and experimented with different decks. Oh, I can't pretend to specifically remember driving to work that day, or driving home. However I do know that I drove to and from work every day in my car, and I know what car it was, and I know that it was an ordinary work day where I was trying to catch up what I had missed while on vacation. I can tell you the names of some of the people I talked to that day, but only because they were the same people I talked to every day during that period of my career. Now, let's pick another random date. Let's say, I don't know, September 11, 2001. Not random? Yeah, that's true. It isn't. Neither is the day that Ms. Ford (allegedly) was assaulted. |
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and when that catches on you might have a point. If suddenly everyone drops the old meaning and picks the new one.
But why would anyone care what I call a pitcher? At the time Kavanaugh was in school, people used "devil's triangle, ralphing and boofing" in a specific way. And your claim seems to be that he, and he alone, used them differently. And it should be enough for us to take his word that for him they meant something more harmless. |
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OK, STOP RIGHT THERE!
Did you arrive to work hammered? How much do you think that you would remember? |
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I'm not quite sure what your point is here. On an uneventful day, all the details would have roughly equal weight. You would remember -- or forget -- them equally. On a day when something terrible happened -- like fearing you could be raped and "accidentally" killed -- that single event is very likely all you will remember, all that your mind will form memories of, because nothing else will matter. I doubt that the people who struggled down the stairs of the World Trade Center can tell you what they had for breakfast that morning or who else was in their subway car on the way to work. This just doesn't seem like a difficult concept.
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This is just weird. A 1990 warning that said teenagers sometimes drank is somehow evidence that is to the question of whether or not Brett Kavanaugh committed sexual assault in 1982? That's just weird.
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It shouldn't. I've talked about my heavy partying and my blackouts in high school and college. What that means is that I was drinking a couple of hundred times, drunk at least one hundred times, and experience memory loss of up to two hours on probably half a dozen occasions between the years 1978 and 1982. Is there any position at all in this world that that would disqualify me? I'm not qualified to sit on the Supreme Court, but I got a job that required a high level security clearance as an aerospace engineer, and based on the questions they asked my friends, I am 100% confident that they knew about my history of heavy drinking, which had pretty much stopped by 1984. (I got the clearance in 1987.) Did they just not realize what a security risk I was, having blacked out from alcohol abuse as a college student five years earlier? |
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Trauma and Memory has been studied in depth.
If you argue that Ford's memory should be better than it seems to be, that's an argument from ignorance. |
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No, I did not arrive to work hammered.
On the other hand, according to the reasoning on this thread, I have admitted to heavy drinking that included blackouts. Therefore, I cannot say with certainty that I did not arrive to work hammered, because maybe I was so drunk that I just can't remember showing up to work hammered. One week before, on Tuesday, August 16, I got pretty drunk, but not to the point of blacking out. I was past that phase of my life by then. |
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It's not about what you did back than, but how much proof of your past misbehavior could influence your current work.
Kavanaugh has made himself vulnerable to blackmail by stating under oath that he did not do certain things in High School / College. If anyone has proof that he did was his calendar and his accusers claim, they could use that to influence him as a Judge. |
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There was a time when the GOP considered perjury to be such an egregious offense that they impeached a sitting president for refusing to admit that he had been given a knob job by a consenting adult. Had they had the needed two thirds majority in the Senate they certainly would have gotten him removed from office. Why do you think this attitude of theirs toward perjury has changed? Do you believe Kavanaugh's clear and emphatic statements under oath that he never suffered any sort of memory impairment at all as a result of excessive alcohol consumption while in high school? If you don't, why would this perjury not prove him unfit for the SCOTUS position? What has changed? |
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What is your point? You can remember X ergo Ford is lying if she says she doesn't?
That is absurd. I had similar things happen as Ford did and my memory is very clear on the actual events and quite vague on details surrounding it. My anecdotes are much more relevant than yours. |
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Actually......I never heard the term "devil's triangle", to mean anything at all. On the other hand, we made up "house rules" to our drinking games, and made up phrases to go with them.
I must agree with "ralphing". I can't imagine it meaning anything other than vomiting, and it would rarely be used except in the context of vomiting due to heavy drinking. As for "boofing", I've only ever heard it used as one thing, but there are local slang variations. (See my earlier post about "hooter" meaning fellatio in my town.) The weird thing is that I don't get why Kavanaugh would lie about that. It appears he did, but I'm at a loss as to why he would. He seemed sincere when he said it, but of course the idea that we could judge truth or falsehood based on the apparent sincerity of the speaker is laughable. ETA: But the big mystery is why anyone thinks that the phrase "Have you boofed yet" constitutes evidence in a sexual assault investigation. |
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