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Old 2nd October 2018, 07:04 PM   #161
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Old 2nd October 2018, 08:38 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
What an incredible guy. A millionaire by the time he was eight!
For folks who don't have time to read the full Times package right away, the Times has summarized 11 key facts:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/u...red-trump.html

It adds up to massive multi-generational tax and real estate fraud.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 09:27 PM   #163
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
The only thing the House has for it is that all spending bills have to originate there. But given that, all they do is slop something together and let the Senate deal with the hard work, if they want to.
It's even worse than that. These days the President (well, and his assistants, cabinet, etc.) put together a massive budget document and hand it over to the House.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 09:28 PM   #164
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Trump is helping the US car manufacturing industry by making cars more expensive and giving that money to Mexican workers.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 09:30 PM   #165
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So how do you pronounce NAFTA, then?
Trump's Delusion?
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Old 2nd October 2018, 09:42 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Hmmm... Net worth ultimately comes from two places, right? Investors, or revenues.
No. If I invest $5 in your next harebrained scheme, you are not $5 richer because you owe me more then $5 in return.

ETA: Covered by others more effectively.

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Old 2nd October 2018, 10:03 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Self made from a small loan from my father.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html

It must be nice to think of $413 million as a small loan.
My method is admittedly flawed. However, looking at that $413 million figure. The Edwards Jones broker in the strip mall near my house is a better business person than Trump. With moderate risk, he/she could turn that into six billion dollars in ten years and I bet he/she isn't a flaming ******* with freakish and disgusting pod children.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 10:06 PM   #168
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The $413M include funds his father had to inject into Trump businesses that would otherwise have collapsed.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 10:40 PM   #169
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Old 2nd October 2018, 10:55 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
"I'm not a drinker. I can honestly say I've never had a beer in my life"

"...it's one of my only good traits" - Donald J. Trump
Wow! Trump and I agree on something. But, personally, I'd prefer if he was a drunk.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 11:17 PM   #171
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Looks like the New NAFTA is indeed incrementally better for the US than the original - bonus points to Trump for that.
But it came at a tremendous cost to US reputation; we can be certain that China is taking notes and will not let itself get forced into a one-sided deal.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 11:34 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Looks like the New NAFTA is indeed incrementally better for the US than the original - bonus points to Trump for that.
But it came at a tremendous cost to US reputation; we can be certain that China is taking notes and will not let itself get forced into a one-sided deal.

Better for some, maybe. But not for everybody.
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A handful of major industries scored big wins in President Trumpís North American trade agreement ó at times at the expense of ordinary consumers in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

The winners include oil companies, technology firms and retailers, but chief among them are pharmaceutical companies, which gained guarantees against competition from cheaper generic drugs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...&noredirect=on
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There's a thread for Kavanaugh, but I'm putting it here too

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President Donald Trump for the first time directly mocked Christine Blasey Ford's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee by casting doubt on her testimony during a campaign rally.

Before the crowd Tuesday night in Southaven, Mississippi, Trump imitated Ford during her testimony, mocking her for not knowing the answers to questions such as how she had gotten to the high school party where she says Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her.

"I had one beer. Well, do you think it was -- nope, it was one beer," Trump said, mimicking Ford's testimony last week to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

"How did you get home? I don't remember. How'd you get there? I don't remember. Where is the place? I don't remember. How many years ago was it? I don't know."

Trump's comments were met with laughter and applause from the crowd.

"I don't know. I don't know," the President continued. "What neighborhood was it in? I don't know. Where's the house? I don't know. Upstairs, downstairs -- where was it? I don't know -- but I had one beer. That's the only thing I remember."

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He called Democrats who are against Kavanaugh "evil people" who want to "destroy people."

He reiterated his earlier claims Tuesday that nowadays you are "guilty until proven innocent," and stepped up his line of argument that men are under attack in America, without mentioning survivors of sexual assault.

"Think of your son. Think of your husband," Trump told the rally, noting he has had "many false allegations" against him.

He launched into a hypothetical riff about a young man who got a job at IBM or General Motors but is falsely accused of sexual assault. "What do I do, Mom? What do I do, Mom?" Trump said, role-playing a conversation between a son and mother.

"It's a damn sad situation, OK? And we better start as a country getting smart and getting tough."
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senior Telegraph editor about Kavanaugh's behaviour during Whitewater

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/my-...ans-pritchard/
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Old 2nd October 2018, 11:54 PM   #175
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A self made man! An inspiration to us all!
Just a regular guy, not one of these East Coast elites.
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Old 2nd October 2018, 11:58 PM   #176
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Presidential alert system will work on most USA citizen mobile devices beginning tomorrow. POTUS has been informed that it is to be used only for national emergencies.

Expect "No Collusion" message tomorrow.
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Old 3rd October 2018, 12:29 AM   #177
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Presidential alert system will work on most USA citizen mobile devices beginning tomorrow. POTUS has been informed that it is to be used only for national emergencies.

Expect "No Collusion" message tomorrow.


I expect as the Dolt descends further into madness, heíll use it as his personal broadcast system.
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Old 3rd October 2018, 12:50 AM   #178
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Yeah but the article is immediately guilty of a bit of misdirection though:



Yeah, harmful stuff tends to harm. But we're exposed to radiation every day, constantly. It's not crazy to think that low-levels of radiation are not harmful. The question is, how much is, and it's not very ethical to test this on humans.
Absolutely because it is not as if normal people get cancer; only radiation workers get cancer?

The issue is that the increased risk for any one individual at any particular time may be low, but if the exposure affects many people for many years then the number of people getting cancer as a consequence becomes significant.
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especially if you consider that certain groups (children, pregnant women, immuno-compromised etc.) are especially vulnerable.
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https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/st...26722773749763

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A key non-negotiable U.S. requirement in the NAFTA renegotiations was that the revised agreement not be called NAFTA.
https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/st...31477180968960

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Thereís something for both free traders and protectionists in the new agreement, which is mostly about continuing the old agreeementís commitment to free trade, but without the words ďfree tradeĒ in its title.
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Old 3rd October 2018, 02:05 AM   #181
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
I wondered if this was your lame take.

The challenge comes down to this: name a country where no man is allowed to marry a woman. If you want to be pedantic, I can state it in terms of quantifiers of first order logic. Name a country in which, for all x such that x is a man and for all y such that y is a woman, x cannot marry y.

That is the relevant point, as you well know. You're diddling, sir, and you know it.
Yes, he knew exactly what I meant, and chose to pretend that he was stupid so that he could play silly buggers in the hopes I'd play along and somehow in the process he'd be awarded a Fake Internet Point. What confuses me is how he envisioned such a silly strategy making him look in any way good to anybody.
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Old 3rd October 2018, 02:08 AM   #182
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"I'm not a drinker. I can honestly say I've never had a beer in my life"

"...it's one of my only good traits" - Donald J. Trump
There are allegations he was (and possibly still is) addicted to speed, though:http://polipace.com/2018/03/01/trump...ddiction-drug/
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There are allegations he was (and possibly still is) addicted to speed, though:http://polipace.com/2018/03/01/trump...ddiction-drug/
In "Fear", Woodward reports that WH physician Ronny Jackson "stopped by to see the president most days ... It would usually be a 30-second check-in, often about something like a nasal spray."

That sounded shady when I read it - who needs nasal spray daily?
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Absolutely because it is not as if normal people get cancer; only radiation workers get cancer?
That's a pretty terrible strawman. Why'd you do that?

Do you think that people get cancer because of background levels of radiation? Or perhaps because of, say, smoking, too much red meat, etc.?
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What an incredible guy. A millionaire by the time he was eight!
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The man has no conscience or conception of honesty. And as I speculated before, apparently no fortune of his own.
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I increasingly wonder how anyone that voted for this piece of filth can still be regarded as a decent human being.
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I increasingly wonder how anyone that voted for this piece of filth can still be regarded as a decent human being.
Oh, yes. They could be simply regarded as wrong or duped. But if they keep supporting him now? Yeah, I guess the question needs to be asked.
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I increasingly wonder how anyone that voted for this piece of filth can still be regarded as a decent human being.

I can see the possibility of giving those who voted for him something of a pass. (A very small possibility, I admit.)

On the other hand, I am in full agreement with you when it comes to people who have continued to blindly support him after he was elected.
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Yesterday at the daily press conference a reporter asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders why Trump doesn't just release his tax returns -- as presidents have done going back to Jimmy Carter -- and clear the air? Sanders replied that Trump can't: he's being audited. Essentially then, Trump will never release his tax returns because he has claimed he's audited every year. This is from a news story in February 2016:
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Trump said during Thursday’s debate that he couldn’t release his tax returns because he was being audited, and that “I’ve been audited every year. Twelve years or something like that.” Following the debate, Trump added in a CNN interview that the IRS might be auditing him because he’s a "strong Christian.” link
C-SPAN asked IRS Commissioner John Koskinen if the claim sounded believable. He said no it did not.
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Koskinen, in an interview with C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers,” stressed repeatedly that he couldn’t comment directly on Trump’s personal tax situation. But the IRS chief also strongly suggested that the scenario Trump laid out in Thursday’s GOP debate was improbable.
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I can believe that it is hard to get of the Trump Worship Train, when you massively discount all the obvious ****-ups and take every possible positive narrative as gospel. If most news are considered Fake and you don't want to believe anything that doesn't come directly from the Horse's Mouth (or Tweet).
And, of course, the psychological cost of rejecting Trump goes up with all the invested loyalty.
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Right. The Trump era will be remembered in history as a dark time in America.
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Yesterday at the daily press conference a reporter asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders why Trump doesn't just release his tax returns -- as presidents have done going back to Jimmy Carter -- and clear the air? Sanders replied that Trump can't: he's being audited.
Same **** over and over again. That doesn't stop him from releasing his returns and he knows it. Besides he could release the previous years'.
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Right. The Trump era will be remembered in history as a dark time in America.
Nonsense he will be remembered as the glorious first true leader of America Reborn! That is what the ministry of alternate facts says, to suggest otherwise if fake news and sends you to the freedom camps.
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I increasingly wonder how anyone that voted for this piece of filth can still be regarded as a decent human being.
Especially horrifying is the reaction of the audience at the rally last night (cheering and clapping), when The PDJT mocked a sexual assault victim.
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Essentially then, Trump will never release his tax returns because he has claimed he's audited every year. This is from a news story in February 2016:


C-SPAN asked IRS Commissioner John Koskinen if the claim sounded believable. He said no it did not.


Considering this week's story about his and his father's tax scams over the last few decades, it's actually not that surprising that he might be getting audited ever year.
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I increasingly wonder how anyone that voted for this piece of filth can still be regarded as a decent human being.
I've pointed this out many times. Trump isn't the problem, he is the RESULT of the problem. The problem is the American people who support him.
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The $413M include funds his father had to inject into Trump businesses that would otherwise have collapsed.
...sooner.
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I'm shocked and flabbergasted to learn that Trump's business success is a massive fiction, built on tax evasion, lies, and daddy's wallet. How could we ever have seen this coming, what with Trump's history that appears so entirely above board, and with him being such a tell-it-like-it-is sort of person.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
In "Fear", Woodward reports that WH physician Ronny Jackson "stopped by to see the president most days ... It would usually be a 30-second check-in, often about something like a nasal spray."

That sounded shady when I read it - who needs nasal spray daily?
I think this is Ronny's pet term for a dose of brown nosing.
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