[Continuation] The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again - Page 8

Trebuchet · 5th October 2018, 08:49 AM

I bet Trump will go on having these rallies for the rest of his life. He gets off on it too much to stop. If he loses in '20, they'll be all about fraud and millions of illegals voting. If he wins, he'll make the same claims anyway.

Mumbles · 5th October 2018, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by sts60

Plus, it’s not an either-or situation here.

The whole thing is just gaslighting and projection anyway; Trump has a history of paying people to cheer for him, starting with his announcement and continuing at his rallies.

Well, his campaign does this - and I wouldn't be shocked if others did as well (and I honestly don't care if they pay the people to stand behind them in particular, since those are very carefully crafted). For several reasons, (he'd likely be enraged by it, he has no concern for detail or day-to-day management), I doubt he knows.

The idea of him seeing Grassley say it and then spewing it on Twitter strikes me as much more reasonable. He does that a lot, and his bigotry is more towards Stupid Don Draper than Richard Spencer. He loves Jewish lawyers, thinks Mexicans and Blacks should be servants, and thinks Native Americans are extinct.

theprestige · 5th October 2018, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/e...ntl/index.html

I don't think Trump should have won it, but in establishing the prize, Alfred Nobel said it should go to someone who has "done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

By that criteria, I'd say that the President of South Korea probably deserves it, for his steadfast efforts at rapprochement with the North Korean regime, in the face of their longstanding intransigence. If the short list of candidates consisted entirely of people who have contributed to the ongoing effort to keep peace on the Korean peninsula, the prize could be awarded fairly and meaningfully every year.

Darat · 5th October 2018, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

He’s not the first politician to constantly accuse others of things he has been doing.

Trump with his pathology has no way of understanding that other people wouldn't do the same as him.

pgwenthold · 5th October 2018, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

I bet Trump will go on having these rallies for the rest of his life. He gets off on it too much to stop. If he loses in '20, they'll be all about fraud and millions of illegals voting. If he wins, he'll make the same claims anyway.

I was watching a show about Hitler on one of the HitlerIMeanHistory Channels, and it was talking about his behavior toward the end of the war, where he went secluded at his villa, and instead of actually doing anything, he spent his time boasting about his unlikely rise to power, and how impressive that was.

theprestige · 5th October 2018, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

I was watching a show about Hitler on one of the HitlerIMeanHistory Channels, and it was talking about his behavior toward the end of the war, where he went secluded at his villa, and instead of actually doing anything, he spent his time boasting about his unlikely rise to power, and how impressive that was.

Yet more proof (as if more proof was needed) that Donald Trump is Literally Double Hitler.

Apathia · 5th October 2018, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

It is complicated. How about the Obama voters who voted for Trump in 2016?

How do you explain someone voting for Barack Obama and then voting for Donald Trump? In numbers high enough, that if they had voted for Clinton, she would have won easily? I think there are a lot of answers, it's not one reason.

I know a woman who voted for Obama as the "Change" candidate. She then voted for Trump because she said Obama didn't bring any real change but Trump would. I'm not sure what specific changes she was expecting.

Mumbles · 5th October 2018, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

The worst thing is, it has a high probability of occuring.

Would they have a compelling reason to accept any such invitation?

Belz... · 5th October 2018, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mumbles

Would they have a compelling reason to accept any such invitation?

***** and giggles?

Safe-Keeper · 5th October 2018, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

If the lawsuit succeeds, Trump might be banned from working with any nonprofit organization for 10 years from when he leaves office.

Oh no!
such hardship!

Regardless of how things go, he is in trouble when he leaves office.

theprestige · 5th October 2018, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Regardless of how things go, he is in trouble when he leaves office.

Congress better pass that Enabling Act right after the mid-terms, then.

Has Trump spoken to Hindenburg yet? We might still have time to turn this thing around.

Let's hope nobody burns down the Capitol!

newyorkguy · 5th October 2018, 01:18 PM

People who voted for Obama and then Trump (and many of them still feel positively towards Obama) did it because they wanted "change." These voters have been fairly consistent in the change they wanted. An end to the rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get poorer reality of the past thirty years. People know their wages have stagnated; that raises do not keep up with inflation. They know their buying power and their standard-of-living have not increased. Here's some comments from the mayor of a (very) small town in North Carolina, a Democrat, who voted for Trump.

Quote:

Charlotte Griffin, the mayor of Bear Grass, N.C., a town of about 80 people in the eastern part of the state, said her vote for Mr. Trump was more an act of desperation than a positive political choice. She had grown furious with the national political class — and what she saw as its wealth, ignorance of ordinary people’s lives and inability to get anything done. It was the first time she’d chosen a Republican in 50 years of voting. Her county flipped to Mr. Trump after choosing Mr. Obama twice. “Did I really like Trump? No. I still don’t,” Ms. Griffin said in January. “But at least I thought we might move. We were in a stalemate. We were at dead center zero. We were just sitting there spinning our wheels.” news story link

A woman in Ohio who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and Trump in 2016.

Quote:

Ms. Baker works at a hair salon in Stark County, Ohio, which flipped to Mr. Trump after choosing Mr. Obama twice, and she said the president was an economic disappointment. “[Trump]’s not there for the poor and the middle class,” she said, sitting on her mother’s couch in the small town of Rittman. “I thought he would be, but he’s not.”

AnonyMoose · 5th October 2018, 01:22 PM

So it turns out there is gawd afterall.... and she likes to hit the smite button every now and then.

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theprestige · 5th October 2018, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by AnonyMoose

So it turns out there is gawd afterall.... and she likes to hit the smite button every now and then.

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http://www.internationalskeptics.com...7c8006e514.gif

I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency.

varwoche · 5th October 2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency.

I dedicate this song to Donald Trump and you.

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Boozoo Chavis, recorded 1954. Lyrics.

AnonyMoose · 5th October 2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency.

And I can't imagine what it must be like needing to formulate an assumption about someone else's thought processes in order to justify and rationalize one's own inability to see beyond their cult worship because they've been programmed to believe any humour aimed at their messiah is considered heresy and should be spoken out against at every single turn.

theprestige · 5th October 2018, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by AnonyMoose

And I can't imagine what it must be like needing to formulate an assumption about someone else's thought processes in order to justify and rationalize one's own inability to see beyond their cult worship because they've been programmed to believe any humour aimed at their messiah is considered heresy and should be spoken out against at every single turn.

Despite our many irreconcilable differences, I think we can at least agree that this post is hilariously ironic.

AnonyMoose · 5th October 2018, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Despite our many irreconcilable differences, I think we can at least agree that this post is hilariously ironic.

You like that?

Yeah, I thought it was cleverly sardonic too.

Glad to see we can both enjoy the hypocrisy of the political circus going on south of the 49th parallel.

C_Felix · 5th October 2018, 02:59 PM

Kinda sorta OT...

Remember that false missile warning in Hawai'i about...oh...9 months ago? Where the warning went out that an ICBM was on the way? And it happened just about 9 months ago?

I wonder if there's going to be spike in births in the next two weeks.

Belz... · 5th October 2018, 05:34 PM

Didn't you already make that point yesterday?

SezMe · 5th October 2018, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Are they running scared, or is election fraud just a force of habit at this point?

The latter can not be excluded. 35 YEARS of being sanctioned.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th October 2018, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Apathia

I know a woman who voted for Obama as the "Change" candidate. She then voted for Trump because she said Obama didn't bring any real change but Trump would. I'm not sure what specific changes she was expecting.

Evidence of voters that have almost no information and a lot of magical thinking of what they are getting for their vote.

Checkmite · 5th October 2018, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by AnonyMoose

So it turns out there is gawd afterall.... and she likes to hit the smite button every now and then.

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I AGREE

My god that is awesome.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th October 2018, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

My god that is awesome.

And Snopes confirms it.

Did President Trump Board Air Force One with Paper Stuck to His Shoe?

Quote:

True

They were being polite not calling it TP in the title but they called it TP in the article.

timhau · 5th October 2018, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

People who voted for Obama and then Trump (and many of them still feel positively towards Obama) did it because they wanted "change." These voters have been fairly consistent in the change they wanted. An end to the rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get poorer reality of the past thirty years.

How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump?

The Great Zaganza · 5th October 2018, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump?

Your loyalty to Mother Russia.

Apathia · 5th October 2018, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump?

When you're desperate, you'll even try blood replacement therapy and leeches.

Slings and Arrows · 5th October 2018, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Retweets

"@RealJamesWoods
Whether you love or hate him, Trump’s ascendancy to the presidency was a once-in-a-century miracle. He was literally the Man Without a Party, yet beat 16 primary competitors and an opponent whose victory was her “manifest destiny.” It was a political feat unequaled in history."

Twitter Suspends James Woods. Woods Stands His Ground.

"I’m gone a week and @LindseyGrahamSC actually IS Spartacus."
-- James Woods (Oct 5, 2018)

Welcome back!

KDLarsen · 6th October 2018, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump?

Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter.

timhau · 6th October 2018, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by KDLarsen

Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter.

Sure, but how can one make oneself trust it when it's coming from the creature from the Orange Lagoon?

Travis · 6th October 2018, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

Sure, but how can one make oneself trust it when it's coming from the creature from the Orange Lagoon?

I'd imagine that is the question a lot of such voters are asking themselves as buyers remorse sets in.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 6th October 2018, 05:21 AM

https://twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/st...84172264689664

Quote:

Yesterday, after an 18 month investigation, the NYT revealed the President of the United States committed hundreds of millions of dollars of tax fraud - possibly one of the biggest scandals in the history of the Presidency - and 24 hours later we're no longer talking about it.

Fast Eddie B · 6th October 2018, 05:40 AM

TP is more newsworthy.

newyorkguy · 6th October 2018, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by KDLarsen

Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter.

It undoubtedly did resonate. Trump also campaigned on growing American jobs, raising wages, bringing back blue collar jobs from overseas, etc. These are some of the things he was Tweeting during the run-up to the campaign.

Quote:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The middle-class has worked so hard, are not getting the kind of jobs that they have long dreamed of - and no effective raise in years. BAD
8:30 AM - Dec 28, 2015

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Wages in are[sic] country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders.We need smart and strong leadership now! 8:50 AM - Dec 28, 2015 News link

The swing voters also did not know a whole lot about Donald Trump. I'm from New York, I've been exposed to him for thirty-five years. Trump has never been someone who holds up well in the long run. A New York City mayor once said, of all the people he'd had to deal with while in office, Trump was probably the greediest. He long ago gained a reputation in New York for being a self-aggrandizing phony.

But many people around the rest of the country seemed unaware of some of the criticism The Don got over the years. They never heard of the United States Football League, the Trump Shuttle. They knew very little about Atlantic City and the questionable strategy he followed there. They were of the opinion -- I heard this a number of times -- that they admired the fact that he was a businessman who suffered some business failures, yet regrouped and became even more successful. I think the television show The Apprentice helped him immeasurably, in introducing Trump to the rest of the U.S. and doing it on his terms.

Stacko · 6th October 2018, 06:43 AM

No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets.

Craig4 · 6th October 2018, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency.

These video have real value. We know Trump is terrified of being laughed at. He hates it above all else. I hope this one gets more play. A real president would laugh it off, for Trump this sort of thing causes real suffering for him.

The Great Zaganza · 6th October 2018, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets.

Wow.
Thanks to Guiliani for showcasing who's on the wrong side of history.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 6th October 2018, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets.

Good to see that the Republicans' avowed support of due process lasted a long time.

Stacko · 6th October 2018, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

Good to see that the Republicans' avowed support of due process lasted a long time.

Just long enough to remove some autonomy that women have and minority voting rights.

CapelDodger · 6th October 2018, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

But many people around the rest of the country seemed unaware of some of the criticism The Don got over the years. They never heard of the United States Football League, the Trump Shuttle. They knew very little about Atlantic City and the questionable strategy he followed there. They were of the opinion -- I heard this a number of times -- that they admired the fact that he was a businessman who suffered some business failures, yet regrouped and became even more successful. I think the television show The Apprentice helped him immeasurably, in introducing Trump to the rest of the U.S. and doing it on his terms.

Exactly.

5th October 2018, 08:49 AM	#281
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwet Posts: 18,460	I bet Trump will go on having these rallies for the rest of his life. He gets off on it too much to stop. If he loses in '20, they'll be all about fraud and millions of illegals voting. If he wins, he'll make the same claims anyway.
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5th October 2018, 09:11 AM	#284
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 83,369	Originally Posted by Ladewig He’s not the first politician to constantly accuse others of things he has been doing. Trump with his pathology has no way of understanding that other people wouldn't do the same as him.
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5th October 2018, 09:11 AM	#285
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 17,359	Originally Posted by Trebuchet I bet Trump will go on having these rallies for the rest of his life. He gets off on it too much to stop. If he loses in '20, they'll be all about fraud and millions of illegals voting. If he wins, he'll make the same claims anyway. I was watching a show about Hitler on one of the HitlerIMeanHistory Channels, and it was talking about his behavior toward the end of the war, where he went secluded at his villa, and instead of actually doing anything, he spent his time boasting about his unlikely rise to power, and how impressive that was.
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5th October 2018, 10:46 AM	#287
Apathia Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 4,727	Originally Posted by newyorkguy It is complicated. How about the Obama voters who voted for Trump in 2016? How do you explain someone voting for Barack Obama and then voting for Donald Trump? In numbers high enough, that if they had voted for Clinton, she would have won easily? I think there are a lot of answers, it's not one reason. I know a woman who voted for Obama as the "Change" candidate. She then voted for Trump because she said Obama didn't bring any real change but Trump would. I'm not sure what specific changes she was expecting.
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5th October 2018, 11:22 AM	#289
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 74,385	Originally Posted by Mumbles Would they have a compelling reason to accept any such invitation? ***** and giggles?
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5th October 2018, 08:58 AM	#282
Mumbles Philosopher Pither Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,225	Originally Posted by sts60 Plus, it’s not an either-or situation here. The whole thing is just gaslighting and projection anyway; Trump has a history of paying people to cheer for him, starting with his announcement and continuing at his rallies. Well, his campaign does this - and I wouldn't be shocked if others did as well (and I honestly don't care if they pay the people to stand behind them in particular, since those are very carefully crafted). For several reasons, (he'd likely be enraged by it, he has no concern for detail or day-to-day management), I doubt he knows. The idea of him seeing Grassley say it and then spewing it on Twitter strikes me as much more reasonable. He does that a lot, and his bigotry is more towards Stupid Don Draper than Richard Spencer. He loves Jewish lawyers, thinks Mexicans and Blacks should be servants, and thinks Native Americans are extinct.

5th October 2018, 09:00 AM	#283
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29,587	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/e...ntl/index.html I don't think Trump should have won it, but in establishing the prize, Alfred Nobel said it should go to someone who has "done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses." By that criteria, I'd say that the President of South Korea probably deserves it, for his steadfast efforts at rapprochement with the North Korean regime, in the face of their longstanding intransigence. If the short list of candidates consisted entirely of people who have contributed to the ongoing effort to keep peace on the Korean peninsula, the prize could be awarded fairly and meaningfully every year.

5th October 2018, 09:16 AM	#286
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29,587	Originally Posted by pgwenthold I was watching a show about Hitler on one of the HitlerIMeanHistory Channels, and it was talking about his behavior toward the end of the war, where he went secluded at his villa, and instead of actually doing anything, he spent his time boasting about his unlikely rise to power, and how impressive that was. Yet more proof (as if more proof was needed) that Donald Trump is Literally Double Hitler.

5th October 2018, 10:58 AM	#288
Mumbles Philosopher Pither Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,225	Originally Posted by Belz... The worst thing is, it has a high probability of occuring. Would they have a compelling reason to accept any such invitation?

5th October 2018, 12:44 PM	#290
Safe-Keeper Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,980	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza If the lawsuit succeeds, Trump might be banned from working with any nonprofit organization for 10 years from when he leaves office. Oh no! such hardship! Regardless of how things go, he is in trouble when he leaves office.
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5th October 2018, 12:57 PM	#291
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29,587	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper Regardless of how things go, he is in trouble when he leaves office. Congress better pass that Enabling Act right after the mid-terms, then. Has Trump spoken to Hindenburg yet? We might still have time to turn this thing around. Let's hope nobody burns down the Capitol!

5th October 2018, 01:18 PM	#292
newyorkguy Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 9,506	People who voted for Obama and then Trump (and many of them still feel positively towards Obama) did it because they wanted "change." These voters have been fairly consistent in the change they wanted. An end to the rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get poorer reality of the past thirty years. People know their wages have stagnated; that raises do not keep up with inflation. They know their buying power and their standard-of-living have not increased. Here's some comments from the mayor of a (very) small town in North Carolina, a Democrat, who voted for Trump. Quote: Charlotte Griffin, the mayor of Bear Grass, N.C., a town of about 80 people in the eastern part of the state, said her vote for Mr. Trump was more an act of desperation than a positive political choice. She had grown furious with the national political class — and what she saw as its wealth, ignorance of ordinary people’s lives and inability to get anything done. It was the first time she’d chosen a Republican in 50 years of voting. Her county flipped to Mr. Trump after choosing Mr. Obama twice. “Did I really like Trump? No. I still don’t,” Ms. Griffin said in January. “But at least I thought we might move. We were in a stalemate. We were at dead center zero. We were just sitting there spinning our wheels.” news story link A woman in Ohio who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and Trump in 2016. Quote: Ms. Baker works at a hair salon in Stark County, Ohio, which flipped to Mr. Trump after choosing Mr. Obama twice, and she said the president was an economic disappointment. “[Trump]’s not there for the poor and the middle class,” she said, sitting on her mother’s couch in the small town of Rittman. “I thought he would be, but he’s not.”

5th October 2018, 02:04 PM	#296
AnonyMoose Thinker Join Date: May 2018 Location: Land of the Frozen Chosen Posts: 187	Originally Posted by theprestige I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency. And I can't imagine what it must be like needing to formulate an assumption about someone else's thought processes in order to justify and rationalize one's own inability to see beyond their cult worship because they've been programmed to believe any humour aimed at their messiah is considered heresy and should be spoken out against at every single turn.
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5th October 2018, 02:23 PM	#297
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29,587	Originally Posted by AnonyMoose And I can't imagine what it must be like needing to formulate an assumption about someone else's thought processes in order to justify and rationalize one's own inability to see beyond their cult worship because they've been programmed to believe any humour aimed at their messiah is considered heresy and should be spoken out against at every single turn. Despite our many irreconcilable differences, I think we can at least agree that this post is hilariously ironic.

5th October 2018, 02:30 PM	#298
AnonyMoose Thinker Join Date: May 2018 Location: Land of the Frozen Chosen Posts: 187	Originally Posted by theprestige Despite our many irreconcilable differences, I think we can at least agree that this post is hilariously ironic. You like that? Yeah, I thought it was cleverly sardonic too. Glad to see we can both enjoy the hypocrisy of the political circus going on south of the 49th parallel.
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5th October 2018, 02:59 PM	#299
C_Felix Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Just outside Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,884	Kinda sorta OT... Remember that false missile warning in Hawai'i about...oh...9 months ago? Where the warning went out that an ICBM was on the way? And it happened just about 9 months ago? I wonder if there's going to be spike in births in the next two weeks.
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5th October 2018, 05:34 PM	#300
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 74,385	Didn't you already make that point yesterday?
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5th October 2018, 06:10 PM	#301
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 22,756	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Are they running scared, or is election fraud just a force of habit at this point? The latter can not be excluded. 35 YEARS of being sanctioned.
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5th October 2018, 07:29 PM	#302
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 69,455	Originally Posted by Apathia I know a woman who voted for Obama as the "Change" candidate. She then voted for Trump because she said Obama didn't bring any real change but Trump would. I'm not sure what specific changes she was expecting. Evidence of voters that have almost no information and a lot of magical thinking of what they are getting for their vote.
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5th October 2018, 10:47 PM	#304
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 69,455	Originally Posted by Checkmite My god that is awesome. And Snopes confirms it. Did President Trump Board Air Force One with Paper Stuck to His Shoe? Quote: True They were being polite not calling it TP in the title but they called it TP in the article.
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5th October 2018, 10:52 PM	#305
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 12,809	Originally Posted by newyorkguy People who voted for Obama and then Trump (and many of them still feel positively towards Obama) did it because they wanted "change." These voters have been fairly consistent in the change they wanted. An end to the rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get poorer reality of the past thirty years. How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump?
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5th October 2018, 10:57 PM	#306
The Great Zaganza Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,233	Originally Posted by timhau How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump? Your loyalty to Mother Russia.
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5th October 2018, 11:19 PM	#307
Apathia Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 4,727	Originally Posted by timhau How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump? When you're desperate, you'll even try blood replacement therapy and leeches.
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5th October 2018, 11:36 PM	#308
Slings and Arrows Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,535	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Retweets "@RealJamesWoods Whether you love or hate him, Trump’s ascendancy to the presidency was a once-in-a-century miracle. He was literally the Man Without a Party, yet beat 16 primary competitors and an opponent whose victory was her “manifest destiny.” It was a political feat unequaled in history." Twitter Suspends James Woods. Woods Stands His Ground. "I’m gone a week and @LindseyGrahamSC actually IS Spartacus." -- James Woods (Oct 5, 2018) Welcome back!
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6th October 2018, 01:26 AM	#309
KDLarsen Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,753	Originally Posted by timhau How on Earth is that a reason to vote for Trump? Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter.
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6th October 2018, 03:03 AM	#310
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 12,809	Originally Posted by KDLarsen Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter. Sure, but how can one make oneself trust it when it's coming from the creature from the Orange Lagoon?
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6th October 2018, 04:25 AM	#311
Travis Misanthrope of the Mountains Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23,556	Originally Posted by timhau Sure, but how can one make oneself trust it when it's coming from the creature from the Orange Lagoon? I'd imagine that is the question a lot of such voters are asking themselves as buyers remorse sets in.
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6th October 2018, 05:21 AM	#312
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 21,518	https://twitter.com/Scott_Gilmore/st...84172264689664 Quote: Yesterday, after an 18 month investigation, the NYT revealed the President of the United States committed hundreds of millions of dollars of tax fraud - possibly one of the biggest scandals in the history of the Presidency - and 24 hours later we're no longer talking about it.
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6th October 2018, 05:40 AM	#313
Fast Eddie B Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mineral Bluff, GA Posts: 5,256	TP is more newsworthy.
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6th October 2018, 06:25 AM	#314
newyorkguy Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 9,506	Originally Posted by KDLarsen Presumably the whole 'drain the swamp'-thing resonated heavily with that type of voter. It undoubtedly did resonate. Trump also campaigned on growing American jobs, raising wages, bringing back blue collar jobs from overseas, etc. These are some of the things he was Tweeting during the run-up to the campaign. Quote: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump The middle-class has worked so hard, are not getting the kind of jobs that they have long dreamed of - and no effective raise in years. BAD 8:30 AM - Dec 28, 2015 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Wages in are[sic] country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders.We need smart and strong leadership now! 8:50 AM - Dec 28, 2015 News link The swing voters also did not know a whole lot about Donald Trump. I'm from New York, I've been exposed to him for thirty-five years. Trump has never been someone who holds up well in the long run. A New York City mayor once said, of all the people he'd had to deal with while in office, Trump was probably the greediest. He long ago gained a reputation in New York for being a self-aggrandizing phony. But many people around the rest of the country seemed unaware of some of the criticism The Don got over the years. They never heard of the United States Football League, the Trump Shuttle. They knew very little about Atlantic City and the questionable strategy he followed there. They were of the opinion -- I heard this a number of times -- that they admired the fact that he was a businessman who suffered some business failures, yet regrouped and became even more successful. I think the television show The Apprentice helped him immeasurably, in introducing Trump to the rest of the U.S. and doing it on his terms.

6th October 2018, 06:43 AM	#315
Stacko Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,962	No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets.
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6th October 2018, 06:51 AM	#316
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 17,048	Originally Posted by theprestige I can't imagine how weird it must feel, for someone to have that video as their consolation prize for the Trump presidency. These video have real value. We know Trump is terrified of being laughed at. He hates it above all else. I hope this one gets more play. A real president would laugh it off, for Trump this sort of thing causes real suffering for him.

6th October 2018, 06:52 AM	#317
The Great Zaganza Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,233	Originally Posted by Stacko No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets. Wow. Thanks to Guiliani for showcasing who's on the wrong side of history.
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6th October 2018, 07:04 AM	#318
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 21,518	Originally Posted by Stacko No big deal just the president's lawyer lifting up a call to freeze "anti-Christ" George Soros' assets. Good to see that the Republicans' avowed support of due process lasted a long time.
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6th October 2018, 07:07 AM	#319
Stacko Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,962	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim Good to see that the Republicans' avowed support of due process lasted a long time. Just long enough to remove some autonomy that women have and minority voting rights.
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