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Old 1st October 2018, 04:47 AM   #241
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Up until a few weeks ago I'd have thought that was unlikely, because I'd expect a higher level of quality from the Russians. Now, I just wonder if he knows the height of the spire of Salisbury Cathedral.

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Complete aside.... but hey its the right thread for it... while those Russian stories were laughable I live about 30 miles from Salisbury and always wondered why it seemed laughable that tourists would visit it. It's right next to Stonehenge FFS. A lovely town too.

Spokane on the other hand looks like a complete Trumphole.

https://www.roadsnacks.net/worst-nei...in-spokane-wa/

I wonder why the people who live there don't have the guts to make it liveable? Probably too busy shooting each other and googling racist pish.
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Old 1st October 2018, 04:47 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Not every UK citizen has surrendered. At least there are some men in the UK with more Testosterone than a girl scout. Here they are taking matters into their own hands because the incompetent police are too afraid of being called racist. That's why I hate these "well at least our police don't injure anyone" arguments. They just punt their power to non-state actors all so they can come across as virtuous by claiming they "don't hurt" anyone.

They might suck at fighting, but at least they are willing, unlike most Britons.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pvcBpzUzU64
Right, so you favour mob law. Been to any good lynchings lately?

This is what happens when idiot racist morons take the law into their own hands.

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As a mob gathered outside Mr Ebrahimi’s house on an estate in Bristol, James was heard to shout: “Paedo! I’m going to ******* kill you.”
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Three days after the episode, the Iranian-born Mr Ebrahimi was dead, released without charge and murdered by the same intruder who had wrongly branded him a paedophile and helped to whip up a vigilante mob against the 44-year-old outside his home in Bristol.
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In the early hours of 14 July 2013, James – the father of three young children – punched and kicked Mr Ebrahimi unconscious before setting light to his body. Another neighbour Stephen Norley was jailed for four years after he helped drag the body away and set it alight with white spirits.
The cops, in this case, don't come out of it particularly well.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a6782266.html
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Old 1st October 2018, 04:48 AM   #243
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Childless hag who can't wait to sell out her country to her third world pets.
He's finally hit the nail on the head... even calling America a third world country. Must have had his coffee.
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Old 1st October 2018, 04:49 AM   #244
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Perhaps read the article you point to?
"A total of 17 men and one woman have been convicted of offences including rape, sexual abuse, supplying drugs and trafficking for sexual exploitation in a series of trials over the Newcastle case"

"The report into the response by authorities to child sexual exploitation found that before a large-scale police operation was launched in 2014, officers’ actions were sending an “unhelpful” message to perpetrators.
What is your point?
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
But it's still happening

And they have to self-congratulate for actually doing their jobs.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8225106.html
That's a report of successful convictions, so presumably they're not still doing much apart from staring at their cell doors. You seem to be mistaking reports of the resolution of various historic crimes dating back many years as "proof" that it is "still happening," which it isn't.
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Old 1st October 2018, 04:55 AM   #246
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
Complete aside.... but hey its the right thread for it... while those Russian stories were laughable I live about 30 miles from Salisbury and always wondered why it seemed laughable that tourists would visit it.
Probably because they know the Salisbury police are too cowardly to protect its inhabitants against the hordes of Russian assassins who infest the place.

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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
That's a report of successful convictions, so presumably they're not still doing much apart from staring at their cell doors. You seem to be mistaking reports of the resolution of various historic crimes dating back many years as "proof" that it is "still happening," which it isn't.
I'm going by what chief executive of New Castle City Council said

“Sexual exploitation is happening in towns and cities across the country but what we have learned can be used to help others,” she added.

“We know it is still going on in our city, but we are doing everything in our power to prevent it, disrupt it and deal with it, and support the victims for years to come.”

and by citizens finally taking matters into their own hands.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pvcBpzUzU64
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
I'm going by what chief executive of New Castle City Council said

“Sexual exploitation is happening in towns and cities across the country but what we have learned can be used to help others,” she added.

“We know it is still going on in our city, but we are doing everything in our power to prevent it, disrupt it and deal with it, and support the victims for years to come.”

and by citizens finally taking matters into their own hands.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pvcBpzUzU64
Why did you ignore this?

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Right, so you favour mob law. Been to any good lynchings lately?

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Old 1st October 2018, 05:03 AM   #249
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
Not every UK citizen has surrendered. At least there are some men in the UK with more Testosterone than a girl scout. Here they are taking matters into their own hands because the incompetent police are too afraid of being called racist. That's why I hate these "well at least our police don't injure anyone" arguments. They just punt their power to non-state actors all so they can come across as virtuous by claiming they "don't hurt" anyone.

They might suck at fighting, but at least they are willing, unlike most Britons.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pvcBpzUzU64
LOL! That could be a fight over parking spaces, for all you know.
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Old 1st October 2018, 05:07 AM   #250
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I'm going by what chief executive of New Castle City Council said

“Sexual exploitation is happening in towns and cities across the country but what we have learned can be used to help others,” she added.

“We know it is still going on in our city, but we are doing everything in our power to prevent it, disrupt it and deal with it, and support the victims for years to come.”

and by citizens finally taking matters into their own hands.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=pvcBpzUzU64
"Sexual exploitation" is a very wide definition. There's certainly more to it that your one-track fixation.

Oh, and... LOL! You can't even get the city name right.

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Have I missed anything that has had any context? Like the scenes leading up the clips linked to? Or am I correct in my assumption that this is all unsubstantiated bilge recycled from the Mail's website along with cherry picked quotes?
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Old 1st October 2018, 05:17 AM   #252
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Originally Posted by Baylor View Post
If it takes 11 people to subdue 1 person, that 1 person is the winner.
That makes absolutely no sense. You're speaking crazy.

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You want to come across as an authority then you showed you are not.


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Most pathetic threat ever.
God, you really live in an alternate dystopian reality.

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And that's why they suck.
Do you really think the UK police should act like the Gestapo?
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Not so subtle anti-semitism.
What? How come you see things that aren't there all the time? No-go zones, threats, anti-semitic posts. You have the behaviour of a conspiracy theorist.

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Lame
And now you simply ignore evidence that you're wrong.
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That's not how I think of the EU. More like it's continent of childless people who elect childless leaders to adopt/import pets from the third world in a strange new religious practice after abandoning Christianity.
Ah, there we go. I was wondering when your racism would show up unmasked. Took you long enough.

Who cares about child birth rates? If people don't want kids, then they don't have them. There's nothing wrong with that. And yeah, immigrants tend to have more kids... but trust me, once they all adjust to life in the west, their birthrates will go way down too.

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Tell you what: how about you GO to one of these no-go zones and see for yourself? Report back to us once you've done so.
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What? How come you see things that aren't there all the time? No-go zones, threats, anti-semitic posts. You have the behaviour of a conspiracy theorist.
Why... because the Jews controle the American media of course, so complaining about the media is automatically antisemitic...

But more likely this is the same tactic Baylor used in his "blacks are violent dummies" thread... just say any old thing so you can call someone who is perceived to be 'on the left' a racist, because that's their kryptonite.
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… Must have had his coffee.
Well that might explain why he's still up and posting at half past five in the morning, in Spokane WA.
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Old 1st October 2018, 05:49 AM   #257
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What? How come you see things that aren't there all the time? No-go zones, threats, anti-semitic posts. You have the behaviour of a conspiracy theorist...
He perceives that criticizing US news sources is "not so subtle antisemitism" yet folk getting upset about vandals scrawling "bacon" on the walls of a mosque are "pathetic".

As an experiment, we need to find a case where vandals scrawl "bacon" on the walls of a synagogue before we can figure out what's going on in there.

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Tell you what: how about you GO to one of these no-go zones and see for yourself? Report back to us once you've done so.
If you like I'll do that for you, Baylor. Just name a street in London that's a no go area and I'll go there in the next couple of weeks and take a photo of it for you.
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LOL! That could be a fight over parking spaces, for all you know.
After a bit of work, this is the original video, posted 24 June, the day before it was stolen by Baylor's lying racist friends:

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Original description: "STREET BRAWL IN SHEFFIELD 23/06/18"

The words "gang" and "grooming" are conspicuously absent. They look more like Irish Travellers than Asians of any description, let alone Muslims.

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It is revealing that people in the UK, France and the U.S. (among many other places), when polled, consistently overestimate the Muslim population in their countries.

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British people were especially far from the mark when asked what proportion of the UK population is Muslim. The real answer is just one in twenty – but Britons believe it to be almost one in six. That would mean there were almost 10 million Muslims in the UK when in reality there are 2.8 million...This was a common mistake across the world, with many countries significantly overestimating their Muslim population. French people think 31 per cent of their country is Muslim while Americans believe the figure for the US is 17 per cent. The real numbers are 7.5 per cent and 1 per cent respectively. News link (Independent)
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If you like I'll do that for you, Baylor. Just name a street in London that's a no go area and I'll go there in the next couple of weeks and take a photo of it for you.
Outside the nearest pub. Holding a pint. Just to prove the point.
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I am doing a job in Preston next week. Thanks for the heads-up about it being a no-go zone.
I completely failed to notice last time I was there.
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Outside the nearest pub. Holding a pint. Just to prove the point.
While eating a bacon sandwich.
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While eating a bacon sandwich.
I think that's backwards shouldn't he be molesting a child while making an ISIS salute while 11 policemen \(who aren't there because its a no-go zone)| watch on/join in?

I might have this thread wrong though.
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While eating a bacon sandwich.
I didn't want to presume if Matthew is a carnivore.
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I think that's backwards shouldn't he be molesting a child while making an ISIS salute while 11 policemen \(who aren't there because its a no-go zone)| watch on/join in?
Might be best to wear a disguise....


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I didn't want to presume if Matthew is a carnivore.
Ah, good call.

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It is revealing that people in the UK, France and the U.S. (among many other places), when polled, consistently overestimate the Muslim population in their countries.
Pure speculation here, but I wonder if it's possible the overestimations have to do with a combination of the ladies' distinctive dress and their tendency to travel in groups. I rarely see an Arab/Muslim woman in traditional dress alone, presumably due to cultural/religious imperatives.
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Pure speculation here, but I wonder if it's possible the overestimations have to do with a combination of the ladies' distinctive dress and their tendency to travel in groups. I rarely see an Arab/Muslim woman in traditional dress alone, presumably due to cultural/religious imperatives.
Most Muslims aren't Arab; "traditional dress" varies widely, even if it is actually worn. A lot of Muslim women I've worked with wear the same clothes as everyone else, without even a headscarf, and don't seem to have a problem coming to work on their own.

Certainly from surveys in the UK it would seem that the people who over-estimate the most actually live in areas where there is hardly any significant immigration, Muslim or otherwise. This is reflected by UKIP polling better in the areas with the least immigration than in those with the most, even though the latter in itself would not explain such a market difference in itself.

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It is revealing that people in the UK, France and the U.S. (among many other places), when polled, consistently overestimate the Muslim population in their countries.
Perhaps people have a hard time comprehending that, say, 51% of terrorist fatalities post-9/11 originate from 1% of the population. I imagine if you asked them what percentage of the population are Hindus they'd reply, "What? We have Hindus living here?" You're right, it is revealing.
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Most Muslims aren't Arab; "traditional dress" varies widely, even if it is actually worn. A lot of Muslim women I've worked with wear the same clothes as everyone else, without even a headscarf, and don't seem to have a problem coming to work on their own.
I understand all that. All I'm suggesting is that apart from racist paranoia - which is obviously in play - it's possible that because people see apparent Muslims in groups, they may extrapolate that to think there are more of them generally.

Personally, I think it's irrelevant nonsense to worry about it, but I'm neither paranoid nor racist.
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Most Muslims aren't Arab; "traditional dress" varies widely, even if it is actually worn. A lot of Muslim women I've worked with wear the same clothes as everyone else, without even a headscarf, and don't seem to have a problem coming to work on their own.

Certainly from surveys in the UK it would seem that the people who over-estimate the most actually live in areas where there is hardly any significant immigration, Muslim or otherwise. This is reflected by UKIP polling better in the areas with the least immigration than in those with the most, even though the latter in itself would not explain such a market difference in itself.
Indeed, which my kids noticed when pretty young at secondary school - their (rural) current/former is school very ethnically homogeneous, and they said that was a lot of ill-informed fear of all immigrants by certain groups of more insular families in the area.

A lot are farmers who voted for Brexit, and are starting to worry that wasn't very sensible.

It's pretty hard to think of Muslims as particularly scary when you have colleagues who might pray five times a day, but also have photos of their kids by their desks, and eat lunch with you most days (except during Ramadan)
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I hear that certain religious groups that are involved with sexual exploitation of children have succeeded in making part of central Rome a no-go zone where Italian Police can only enter with the permission of religious leaders. Apparently they think that they should not be subject to secular law where it conflicts with their religious beliefs.
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Oh, well-played, Planigale.
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US 16.4% of GDP of which 48.2% is public expenditure - 7.9% of GDP is public spending
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Oh, well-played, Planigale.
Absolutely brilliant.
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I am doing a job in Preston next week. Thanks for the heads-up about it being a no-go zone.
I completely failed to notice last time I was there.
Because you weren't in the occupied parts.

"A Lancashire Police officer, who wished to remain anonymous, told MailOnline: 'There are Muslim areas of Preston that, if we wish to patrol, we have to contact local Muslim community leaders to get their permission'. "

Pakistanis declaring parts of UK as their own. Whatchya gonna Briton? You gonna just take it? I thought so.


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LOL! That could be a fight over parking spaces, for all you know.
There's nothing noble about burying your head in the sand.
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Old 1st October 2018, 08:56 PM   #278
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Indeed, which my kids noticed when pretty young at secondary school - their (rural) current/former is school very ethnically homogeneous, and they said that was a lot of ill-informed fear of all immigrants by certain groups of more insular families in the area.

A lot are farmers who voted for Brexit, and are starting to worry that wasn't very sensible.

It's pretty hard to think of Muslims as particularly scary when you have colleagues who might pray five times a day, but also have photos of their kids by their desks, and eat lunch with you most days (except during Ramadan)
I'm getting tired of the "apathy is a virtue" sermon. Even the "good muslims" demand political representation. They bring their style of politics into your country. Democracy can't work in a "multicultural" society as it just becomes a racial head count. Labour will continue to bend over backwards to get the "oppressed minorities" vote while disaffected whites will vote Tory but will quickly learn Tories don't have the backbone to stick up for white interestes.


So sorry, I know you've been heavily conditioned but being apathetic about bringing people into your country en masse who want to usurp your way of life is not virtuous. It is not noble. It is not something to admire. You have every right to defend your political interests, your way of life.

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Have you actually visited the UK?
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He keeps repeating that the Rotherham scandal is evidence that anything contrary to his assumptions is a lie fabricated by cowards who have surrendered to the Evil Shariah Rapist Invaders.
I don't think there's any hope of changing his mind with mere facts.
Evil Shariah Rapist Invaders didn't actually invade as much as they were let in by childless EU leaders who have a bizarre, twisted fantasy of making Europe a "multicultural utopia." You should always oppose those who want to shape the world in their image regardless of "what side" of the political aisle you're on.
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