The Donald J Trump coluded with Russia Conspiracy theory.

Crazy Chainsaw · 4th December 2019, 07:05 AM

I have a Conspiracy theory, that Donald J. Trump Coluded with Russia, and that interference and Obstruction from the Trump administration, kept the Collusion from being Found by Robert Mueller in the Muller Investigation.
The basis for the Conspiracy theory, is that I personally debunked Jerome Corsi's book 9/11, and the Crimes of the Deep state Bush Nation.
Russian TV. Called me in 2008 and asked me to speak to Corsi.
There is evidence Trump and Corsi might have lied to Mueller.
The day after the Mueller Investigation ended Trump tried the Same thing with Ukraine.

Since we all know this is a conspiracy theory and the president is 100% truthful,

. Please debunk.

Belz... · 4th December 2019, 07:27 AM

*colluded.

The Great Zaganza · 4th December 2019, 08:09 AM

By now it should be clear that Republicans and Democrats are mere pawns in the endless fight between Mastermind Nunes and his arch-nemesis, his Cow.

smartcooky · 4th December 2019, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

By now it should be clear that Republicans and Democrats are mere pawns in the endless fight between Mastermind Nunes and his arch-nemeses, his Cow, and his Mom.

FTFY

Vixen · 4th December 2019, 11:37 AM

I can bunk the theory and you can debunk it.

Crazy Chainsaw · 5th December 2019, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

*colluded.

Thank you for correcting me.

Childlike Empress · 5th December 2019, 02:17 AM

To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in:

Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer”

Originally Posted by Caitlin Johnstone

[...] The engineering of the Iraq war was a conspiracy, per any conceivable definition. So why isn’t that word reflexively used by everyone who talks about it?

Easy. Because we haven’t been trained to.

The use of the word “conspiracy” is studiously avoided by the narrative managers of the political/media class who are tasked with the assignment of teaching us how to think about our world, except when it is to be employed for its intended and authorised use: smearing skeptics of establishment narratives. The pejorative “conspiracy theory” has been such a useful weapon in inoculating the herd from dissident wrongthink that the propagandists do everything they can to avoid tainting their brand, even if it means refraining from using words for the things that they refer to.

This is why the word “collusion” was continuously and uniformly used throughout the entire Russiagate saga, for example. It was a narrative about a secret conspiracy between the highest levels of the US government and the Russian government to subvert the interests of the American people, yet the word “conspiracy” was meticulously replaced with “collusion” by everyone peddling that story. [...]

Crazy Chainsaw · 5th December 2019, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in:

Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer”

Actually and factually untrue, I termed the crime as Conspiracy against the United States it was Trump that first said No Collusion.

Allen773 · 8th December 2019, 04:20 PM

Yup.

Cabbage · 8th December 2019, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in:

Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer”

There it is, like clockwork: The Deflection

Featuring the usual suspects: Childlike Empress and astrologer Caitlin Johnstone

Venom · 8th December 2019, 05:59 PM

Russian agents provoked the conspiracy theory, added little details such as Trump's escapades with young women in the Moscow hotel.

~~Democrats~~ Trump opponents took the bait and blamed the already distrusted and disliked newly elected president of "colluding" with Russia. In turn, Trump ramps up calling the media fake news and the battle becomes more vicious by the year. Everything Trump subsequently does with respect to Russian affairs is seen in this light.

Putin's 3D chess worked.

Crazy Chainsaw · 9th December 2019, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

Russian agents provoked the conspiracy theory, added little details such as Trump's escapades with young women in the Moscow hotel.

~~Democrats~~ Trump opponents took the bait and blamed the already distrusted and disliked newly elected president of "colluding" with Russia. In turn, Trump ramps up calling the media fake news and the battle becomes more vicious by the year. Everything Trump subsequently does with respect to Russian affairs is seen in this light.

Putin's 3D chess worked.

Actually Trump has many ties that Link him to Russia but nothing to prove dirrect involvement in the fake News campaign of 2016.

Craig4 · 10th December 2019, 01:33 AM

Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails.

Childlike Empress · 10th December 2019, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails.

Dude, you should really go look up what Stone was found guilty of (hint: The Mueller report repeated his made-up BS and for making up BS he was convicted after you sucked it up).

Crazy Chainsaw · 10th December 2019, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails.

Well Stones Buddy Jerome Corsi had links to RTV which is who I think he got the Pondesta emails from.

Oystein · 14th December 2019, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw

I have a Conspiracy theory, that Donald J. Trump Coluded with Russia, and that interference and Obstruction from the Trump administration, kept the Collusion from being Found by Robert Mueller in the Muller Investigation.
The basis for the Conspiracy theory, is that I personally debunked Jerome Corsi's book 9/11, and the Crimes of the Deep state Bush Nation.
Russian TV. Called me in 2008 and asked me to speak to Corsi.
There is evidence Trump and Corsi might have lied to Mueller.
The day after the Mueller Investigation ended Trump tried the Same thing with Ukraine.

Since we all know this is a conspiracy theory and the president is 100% truthful,

. Please debunk.

Please define "Russia".

Axxman300 · 14th December 2019, 05:23 PM

Roger Stone was in contact with Assange who was in contact with Guccifer 2.0

https://www.justsecurity.org/45435/t...2-0-wikileaks/

Turns out that Guccifer 2.0 was a high ranking officer in the Russian GRU

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclus...igence-officer

In January, 2017 this happened:

Quote:

Sergei Mikhailov, allegedly detained at a board meeting last December, and his deputy, Dmitry Dokuchaev, were arrested by the Kremlin on Jan. 27 for treason and illegal hacking. Then, on Tuesday, Russian news agency Interfax, after hearing from unidentified sources, reported that they, along with Ruslan Stoyanov, the head of cybercrime investigations at Kaspersky Labs, and a fourth, as yet unnamed person, are suspected of passing along secret information to the CIA — or of passing it to someone who passed it to the CIA. The Kremlin, for its part, has refuted such claims through spokesperson Dmitri Peskov, who said, “…we categorically deny any assertions about the possible complicity of the Russian side in any hacker attacks,” adding, “All the suspects have been charged with high treason. This is the sole count in the case. There are no other accusations.”

These guys were the source of key intelligence that ended up in the Steele dossier.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/31...a-trump-putin/

I doubt you'll find a direct link between Trump and Russians because the guy can't keep his mouth shut and while he is a Russian asset he's also a Russian security risk.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th December 2019, 11:25 PM

WTF? You made something up, ChainSaw, and you want us to debunk it?

You made it up. There, debunked.

Crazy Chainsaw · 15th December 2019, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Please define "Russia".

Vladimir Putin.

Craig4 · 17th December 2019, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Axxman300

Roger Stone was in contact with Assange who was in contact with Guccifer 2.0

https://www.justsecurity.org/45435/t...2-0-wikileaks/

Turns out that Guccifer 2.0 was a high ranking officer in the Russian GRU

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclus...igence-officer

In January, 2017 this happened:

These guys were the source of key intelligence that ended up in the Steele dossier.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/31...a-trump-putin/

I doubt you'll find a direct link between Trump and Russians because the guy can't keep his mouth shut and while he is a Russian asset he's also a Russian security risk.

The first half of the Mueller Report indicates that Stone was also in direct contact with Guccifer 2.0 early on. Later, all parties appear to have agreed that Stone would go to Wikileaks to get the Russian hacked e-mails.

4th December 2019, 07:05 AM	#1
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	The Donald J Trump coluded with Russia Conspiracy theory. I have a Conspiracy theory, that Donald J. Trump Coluded with Russia, and that interference and Obstruction from the Trump administration, kept the Collusion from being Found by Robert Mueller in the Muller Investigation. The basis for the Conspiracy theory, is that I personally debunked Jerome Corsi's book 9/11, and the Crimes of the Deep state Bush Nation. Russian TV. Called me in 2008 and asked me to speak to Corsi. There is evidence Trump and Corsi might have lied to Mueller. The day after the Mueller Investigation ended Trump tried the Same thing with Ukraine. Since we all know this is a conspiracy theory and the president is 100% truthful, . Please debunk.

4th December 2019, 07:27 AM	#2
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 91,292	*colluded.
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4th December 2019, 08:09 AM	#3
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4th December 2019, 11:29 AM	#4
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 16,502	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza By now it should be clear that Republicans and Democrats are mere pawns in the endless fight between Mastermind Nunes and his arch-nemeses, his Cow, and his Mom. FTFY
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4th December 2019, 11:37 AM	#5
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5th December 2019, 01:49 AM	#6
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by Belz... *colluded. Thank you for correcting me.

5th December 2019, 02:17 AM	#7
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,859	To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in: Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer” Originally Posted by Caitlin Johnstone [...] The engineering of the Iraq war was a conspiracy, per any conceivable definition. So why isn’t that word reflexively used by everyone who talks about it? Easy. Because we haven’t been trained to. The use of the word “conspiracy” is studiously avoided by the narrative managers of the political/media class who are tasked with the assignment of teaching us how to think about our world, except when it is to be employed for its intended and authorised use: smearing skeptics of establishment narratives. The pejorative “conspiracy theory” has been such a useful weapon in inoculating the herd from dissident wrongthink that the propagandists do everything they can to avoid tainting their brand, even if it means refraining from using words for the things that they refer to. This is why the word “collusion” was continuously and uniformly used throughout the entire Russiagate saga, for example. It was a narrative about a secret conspiracy between the highest levels of the US government and the Russian government to subvert the interests of the American people, yet the word “conspiracy” was meticulously replaced with “collusion” by everyone peddling that story. [...]
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5th December 2019, 02:55 AM	#8
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in: Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer” Actually and factually untrue, I termed the crime as Conspiracy against the United States it was Trump that first said No Collusion.

8th December 2019, 04:20 PM	#9
Allen773 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cali Four Neea Posts: 1,346	Yup.

8th December 2019, 04:26 PM	#10
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress To make this a bit less delusional, here is a fitting read just coming in: Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer” There it is, like clockwork: *The Deflection* Featuring the usual suspects: Childlike Empress and astrologer Caitlin Johnstone
Cabbage Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,598

8th December 2019, 05:59 PM	#11
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,859	Russian agents provoked the conspiracy theory, added little details such as Trump's escapades with young women in the Moscow hotel. ~~Democrats~~ Trump opponents took the bait and blamed the already distrusted and disliked newly elected president of "colluding" with Russia. In turn, Trump ramps up calling the media fake news and the battle becomes more vicious by the year. Everything Trump subsequently does with respect to Russian affairs is seen in this light. Putin's 3D chess worked.

9th December 2019, 06:26 PM	#12
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by Venom Russian agents provoked the conspiracy theory, added little details such as Trump's escapades with young women in the Moscow hotel. ~~Democrats~~ Trump opponents took the bait and blamed the already distrusted and disliked newly elected president of "colluding" with Russia. In turn, Trump ramps up calling the media fake news and the battle becomes more vicious by the year. Everything Trump subsequently does with respect to Russian affairs is seen in this light. Putin's 3D chess worked. Actually Trump has many ties that Link him to Russia but nothing to prove dirrect involvement in the fake News campaign of 2016.

10th December 2019, 01:33 AM	#13
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,359	Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails.

10th December 2019, 01:57 AM	#14
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,859	Originally Posted by Craig4 Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails. Dude, you should really go look up what Stone was found guilty of (hint: The Mueller report repeated his made-up BS and for making up BS he was convicted after you sucked it up).
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10th December 2019, 02:59 AM	#15
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by Craig4 Roger Stone was directly linked to the Russians in the Mueller report. In the first half of the report, Mueller tells us that Stone got e-mails from the Russians. Later however, the Russians gave the e-mails to Wikileaks and Stone went straight to them, allowing him to bypass the Russians. That's why Wikileaks put out a reward for the information on the Murder of Democratic staffer, Seth Rich, implying he was the source of the leaked e-mails. Well Stones Buddy Jerome Corsi had links to RTV which is who I think he got the Pondesta emails from.

14th December 2019, 07:33 AM	#16
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,976	Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw I have a Conspiracy theory, that Donald J. Trump Coluded with Russia, and that interference and Obstruction from the Trump administration, kept the Collusion from being Found by Robert Mueller in the Muller Investigation. The basis for the Conspiracy theory, is that I personally debunked Jerome Corsi's book 9/11, and the Crimes of the Deep state Bush Nation. Russian TV. Called me in 2008 and asked me to speak to Corsi. There is evidence Trump and Corsi might have lied to Mueller. The day after the Mueller Investigation ended Trump tried the Same thing with Ukraine. Since we all know this is a conspiracy theory and the president is 100% truthful, . Please debunk. Please define "Russia".
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14th December 2019, 05:23 PM	#17
Axxman300 Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central California Coast Posts: 4,818	Roger Stone was in contact with Assange who was in contact with Guccifer 2.0 https://www.justsecurity.org/45435/t...2-0-wikileaks/ Turns out that Guccifer 2.0 was a high ranking officer in the Russian GRU https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclus...igence-officer In January, 2017 this happened: Quote: Sergei Mikhailov, allegedly detained at a board meeting last December, and his deputy, Dmitry Dokuchaev, were arrested by the Kremlin on Jan. 27 for treason and illegal hacking. Then, on Tuesday, Russian news agency Interfax, after hearing from unidentified sources, reported that they, along with Ruslan Stoyanov, the head of cybercrime investigations at Kaspersky Labs, and a fourth, as yet unnamed person, are suspected of passing along secret information to the CIA — or of passing it to someone who passed it to the CIA. The Kremlin, for its part, has refuted such claims through spokesperson Dmitri Peskov, who said, “…we categorically deny any assertions about the possible complicity of the Russian side in any hacker attacks,” adding, “All the suspects have been charged with high treason. This is the sole count in the case. There are no other accusations.” These guys were the source of key intelligence that ended up in the Steele dossier. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/31...a-trump-putin/ I doubt you'll find a direct link between Trump and Russians because the guy can't keep his mouth shut and while he is a Russian asset he's also a Russian security risk.
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14th December 2019, 11:25 PM	#18
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85,869	WTF? You made something up, ChainSaw, and you want us to debunk it? You made it up. There, debunked.
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15th December 2019, 05:34 AM	#19
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,465	Originally Posted by Oystein Please define "Russia". Vladimir Putin.

17th December 2019, 06:26 AM	#20
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,359	Originally Posted by Axxman300 Roger Stone was in contact with Assange who was in contact with Guccifer 2.0 https://www.justsecurity.org/45435/t...2-0-wikileaks/ Turns out that Guccifer 2.0 was a high ranking officer in the Russian GRU https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclus...igence-officer In January, 2017 this happened: These guys were the source of key intelligence that ended up in the Steele dossier. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/31...a-trump-putin/ I doubt you'll find a direct link between Trump and Russians because the guy can't keep his mouth shut and while he is a Russian asset he's also a Russian security risk. The first half of the Mueller Report indicates that Stone was also in direct contact with Guccifer 2.0 early on. Later, all parties appear to have agreed that Stone would go to Wikileaks to get the Russian hacked e-mails.