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Old 4th February 2023, 01:20 PM   #1
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Supreme Court justices used personal emails for work, sources say

Supreme Court justices used personal emails for work and ‘burn bags’ were left open in hallways, sources say

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Long before the leak of a draft opinion reversing Roe v. Wade, some Supreme Court justices often used personal email accounts for sensitive transmissions instead of secure servers set up to guard such information, among other security lapses not made public in the court’s report on the investigation last month.

New details revealed to CNN by multiple sources familiar with the court’s operations offer an even more detailed picture of yearslong lax internal procedures that could have endangered security, led to the leak and hindered an investigation into the culprit.

Supreme Court employees also used printers that didn’t produce logs – or were able to print sensitive documents off-site without tracking – and “burn bags” meant to ensure the safe destruction of materials were left open and unattended in hallways.

“This has been going on for years,” one former employee said.

The problem with the justices’ use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren’t setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were “not masters of information security protocol,” one former court employee told CNN.

In a statement attached to the final report, the court called the leak a “grave assault” on the court’s legitimacy and the marshal of the court issued a road map to improve security.
Color me shocked! LOCK THEM UP!!!
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Old 4th February 2023, 04:19 PM   #2
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The problem with the justices’ use of emails persisted in part because some justices were slow to adopt to the technology and some court employees were nervous about confronting them to urge them to take precautions, one person said. Such behavior meant that justices weren’t setting an example to take security seriously.

The justices were “not masters of information security protocol,” one former court employee told CNN.

Another reason why we need to stop electing and appointing our great-grandparents to important positions.

And here is what will happen with Trump now:

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"We at Team Trump see now that there are security procedures that need to be changed everywhere from the White House to the Supreme Court. Trump's lawyers insisted he did not know about any documents at Mar-a-Lago. We, of course, understand how it is possible that Biden or Pence also had no idea about the documents they had scattered in different locations either. We are prepared to believe them.

"Of course Joe Biden should not be held responsible as this is a procedural problem affecting multiple government branches.

"Donald Trump and Mike Pence would like to form a committee to propose changes to the way sensitive materials are handled. They invite Democrats to join in this bi-partisan effort to protect our nations national security."
Hilarious, right? It doesn't matter what you know to be true, that Trump hid the documents, lied etc.

Anyone think this will affect Trump being indicted for his document mishandling? I sure as hell think that it will be discussed, which means yes, it will make a difference.
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Old 4th February 2023, 04:28 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Another reason why we need to stop electing and appointing our great-grandparents to important positions.

And here is what will happen with Trump now:



Hilarious, right? It doesn't matter what you know to be true, that Trump hid the documents, lied etc.

Anyone think this will affect Trump being indicted for his document mishandling? I sure as hell think that it will be discussed, which means yes, it will make a difference.
The GOP will TRY to make it relevant to Trump's case, but I don't think it will work. Biden's and Pence's cases are very much different when it comes to the actual law as has already been discussed multiple times.
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A lack of oversight and accountability leads to poorly performing systems, no matter what the level? You don't say!

Which sums up far too many problems in the US right now.
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Old 5th February 2023, 02:43 AM   #5
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This is only a problem if Liberal judges do it.
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Old 5th February 2023, 05:41 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
This is only a problem if Liberal judges do it.
Unfortunately true, I think. It will stay an editorial problem and not a fatal one, as long as a significant portion of our political leadership, as it does now, openly and arrogantly endorses criminal misconduct and openly and arrogantly announces its intention to protect it.
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Old 5th February 2023, 03:20 PM   #7
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The GOP will TRY to make it relevant to Trump's case, but I don't think it will work. Biden's and Pence's cases are very much different when it comes to the actual law as has already been discussed multiple times.

I'm worried about the politics. This shouldn't be political but what isn't these days. He needs to fry for this. I hope you're right.
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Old 6th February 2023, 08:40 AM   #8
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The irony about this is there is zero reason for them to be secretive in the first place. It's a self-imposed thing that is meant to let them work in the shadows and maintain the illusion that their reasoning is somehow abstractly objective. It's hard to maintain that "handed down from on high" gravitas when when there is a record of them bickering and horse trading over things. Not to mention making corruption harder to conceal.

A world where their conferences, communications and internal memorandums are in the public record and all of their opinions circulated for public comment is a better world.
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