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Steven Colbert notes that Alex Jones occasionally advises Donald Trump:
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28th February 2017, 09:35 AM | #84 |
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He's obviously taking a leaf out of Putin's book, without the whole sitting on horses and pretending you have a black belt thing.
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7th March 2017, 08:40 PM | #85 |
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Jones has now preemptively debunked any proof of Russian hacking:
https://www.infowars.com/vault-7-cia...dermine-trump/ He's really stayed loyal to Trump. |
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Article by Jerome Corsi (I remember he was one of the big Birthers), but yeah.
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8th March 2017, 11:51 AM | #87 |
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Corsi is an odious man.
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I think I lost some braincells after watching that last one... Why people think he's some sort of a Messiah, is beyond me. And, I just saw this: https://socialblade.com/youtube/user...exjoneschannel When I found his channel for the first time at the end of 2015, he had around 2.5 mil. sub, now he has a bit above 2 mil. Have they finally realized he's a con-artist? Or do those that unsubbed him also think (like kyoon) that he's a CIA Agent...? |
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html
Has Jones said anything else about this? Would be funny if he actually had ties. |
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29th March 2017, 01:39 PM | #91 |
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6th April 2017, 06:44 PM | #93 |
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Jones is criticizing Trump now. Still making excuses for him and praising his character, but definitely criticizing him.
https://www.infowars.com/trump-to-at...ussia-respond/ |
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6th April 2017, 09:45 PM | #95 |
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Fact is, supporting somebody in the White House is simply unnatural and out of character for Jones;he must feel really weird doing it.
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A ******** artist is more like it. Batman is explicitly fiction. Jones claims to be a truth-telling reporter.
It wouldn't surprise me though if the man is pretty unstable IRL too, not just on his show. |
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17th April 2017, 01:02 PM | #99 |
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Not just a performance artist, Jones admits the CTs he spouts are all fake.
Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Spreading Fake ‘Pizzagate’ Story That was the CT Mike Flynn's son bought into and sadly some mentally ill person took seriously enough to shoot a rifle into the restaurant. And of course there is the fact that Trump went on Jone's show.
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I think his wife would have more success if she brought up the things Alex Jones' followers have done, as an example of what a terrible influence he is. I mean, when he says he wants to break Alec Baldwin's neck, get in the back of the line (which stretches back to Terre Haute).
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It will be interesting to see how people with 'Infowars' stickers on their cars react to this. I'd like to think that some will realize they've been had, but it seems more likely that the majority will claim that Jones has sold out to the Illuminati or whatnot, and continue to believe the same paranoid crap because they can't have a worldview that doesn't revolve around them being among the few who are too smart to be fooled.
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18th April 2017, 12:43 PM | #106 |
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I agree, but conspiracy kooks are a long way from being the only people who get scammed largely because they think they are too smart to be scammed. Quite a few people who consider themselves to be "Skeptics" have fallen victim to a scam because they think they are too smart to fall for a con.
In the end scams depend on appealing to emotions,,although they might well make a show of "facts" in selling the con. And skeptics have emotions as much as anybody else,and are therefore vulnerable to the right buttons being pushed. I call it the "Mr.Spock" syndrome;people think they are too rational a la Mr.Spock to fall of a scam. They are setting themselves up ,of course to get conned. |
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Sorry to sound nitpicky, but you are now speculating ahead of the facts. Unless he has already said, for the record, that he knows all the CTs he broadcasts about are fake, you cannot say that he has admitted he knows they are fake. It is entirely possible that this admission may come to light in the future, but, as of right now, we just don't know that.
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Trevor Noah picks this up and wonders if Jones's fan Trump may be a performance artist, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIUaRgwJshE
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Apparently, Alex Jones is a narcissist.
I know what you're thinking - who knew, right? http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...source=copyurl |
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A definent cutting back of the Pro Trump stories on Infowars. A few are still there, but the nonstop praise of Trump has really been dialed back.
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That's not what you said. This is what you said:
Jones has not admitted that, you just said he did without any evidence. When I pointed that out, you said this:
Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger
That doesn't work for Paul Bethke, and neither will it work for you. You seem intent on inflating a nit-pick into a fully-fledged argument, and I really don't see the need for that. You made a mistake: everyone does, so just acknowledge it and move on. |
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Colbert is killing the custody story:
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His defense in his custody proceedings is all that stuff is just "performance art", and he should not be judged by it, anymore than Jack Nicholson should be judged by his role as The Joker in the movie "Batman".
That's not exactly an endorsement of his claims. Essentially, his defense in the custody proceedings is "I was only kidding about all that". http://www.northjersey.com/story/opi...man/100644836/ Hank |
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The Children are now safe Jones lost the battle the exwife won.
The kids might now grow up sane with at least some good DNA, not from Jones of course. |
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