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18th November 2016, 10:07 PM | #284 |
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You already know that the above is a flawed experiment and you can dismiss results you don't like.
You claim you can use your telepathy to make animals do things and a perfect experiment exists for you to test yourself at home and if OK, then tell skeptics and repeat the same experiment as hard evidence. Why are you refusing to undertake an experiment that can offer you clear results? Are you avoiding a proper test on purpose? Why is that? Do you now have doubts? |
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Matthew, you said
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For example, a few years ago, I asked everybody to make noises of the type "2 + 1", like "teet!, teet!, ..., "teet". What I had then in mind was mostly automobile drivers (using their horns), and I did indeed hear a few such noises a few times, a little later. However, to my surprise, I heard birds participate in the experiment as well (crows, I think, perhaps twice). It was truly extraordinary, because their "2 + 1" noises sounded very different from ordinary bird cries, they sounded calm and "scientific" (birds usually do not sound like this). A few minutes ago, about at the time I wrote "Animals are not slaves who are going to obey all my telepathic orders, and I never said such things. They are independent-minded, they like to be treated with respect, much like humans., I also heard an apparent bird reaction (in the form of three cries by a crow, in quick succession, I think, expressing interest, with also a certain form of "authority", by an animal which demands to be treated with respect). An extraordinary event just happened in California (which, fortunately, was non-violent, nobody got injured this time), look here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38034467 The BBC wrote:
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with an extra "to" (number two seems to be sometimes associated with telepathy, this seems to be related to my birth date: 22/2, 22 February). This seems to be California's reaction to my latest test, for the English-speaking community. |
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There's an obvious joke about number two's association with telepathy but it would only distract from the amazing display of hyperconnection you just expressed. You think that the effect of your latest experiment was to cause an incident in California, which in turn caused a report to be written by a journalist in London, which contained an erroneous extra "to", which is a homonym of "two", which you see as significant because it matches the date you were born. I am not a doctor, but when something screams "symptom" loudly enough, even I can spot it. |
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Originally Posted by Michel H, previously
Originally Posted by Michel H
So, Michel Hanck, please explain to us how you assess "non-credible animals" against "credible animals?". |
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For privacy reasons, it is perhaps better that you call me "Michel H", or just "Michel".
With animals, an obvious difference, compared with human beings, is that I never see texts written by them, together with a test answer, about which I have to ask myself:"Is this credible, or not?" Does this dog sound sincere when he tells me I wrote "automobile" on my paper? (I chose "automobile" here, just because it is the first on my list of possible choices). So the question of credibility does not arise. The one who cannot talk also cannot lie. |
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I don't recall Michel using his full name on this forum and even though he thinks we all hear what he's thinking, the rest of us don't and I for one am not comfortable with his being addressed by his real name here for no reason I can discern.
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Not on this forum, but elsewhere and publicly done, most often associated with a variation of his "telepathy" test. Nobody made him do it, nobody doxxed him, he just posted it in public. Game over.
Personally, I have never addressed him by full name because why should I? According to him, I can read his mind. In any event, he has volunteered this information publicly. This is his problem, not mine. |
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Yes he has, Below is a link where he shows his diploma containing his full name. http://www.internationalskeptics.com...35#post9616035 |
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Is this a necessary discussion? Michel H would prefer not to have his surname used here, even though he provided a means for the other members to easily discern it. Okay by me: Michel H seems good enough for our purposes here.
Michel H- as you know I have generally opted out of this thread after concluding that I can't really help you, although wishing you success in finding a happy path in your life. But I am curious, have you discussed with your family, friends, doctors, advisors, etc. the fact that you periodically come to this forum to re-initiate your telepathy tests? I have found that aspect of this thread particularly mysterious- you appear to be very convinced of your own telepathic abilities yet you also appear to strongly feel the need to "test" them here every few weeks or months. This occurs even given that you almost always interpret the prior tests as affirming your abilities. What is your motivation as you see it? Do you see posting these tests as having improved your ability to deal with the negative thoughts that you have also expressed here? Indeed, if just posting these tests makes you happier, then that alone would make me feel happier when I encounter this thread. In addition, perhaps if you explore more (in your own mind and with others) why you feel the need to periodically test your "abilities" (as you see them) it might help you better understand your "abilities." And this understanding, including any insecurities you might have about your "abilities," might prove a useful beginning for enhancing your ability to deal with/control them in a productive way. These are just my ignorant musings- again I wish you the best in your life without knowing exactly how you might achieve that. But I do think that you (as anyone) should make certain to use the help and support of those around you who care about you. |
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Or to test sending any large number (preferably random) that, if replicated by a recipient, would greatly validate the statistics of the test. I am certain that Michel H understands that, and his reluctance to do so is another aspect that he may wish to consider when thinking about why he sets up these tests and what that means in terms of how he views his "abilities".
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Originally Posted by abaddon
Michel H, claims I am breaking his privacy by stating his full name while simultaneously: Michel H posts his degree with his full name and his thesis with his full name on our forum and his full name in his posts asking the same telepathy question on other forums......and through broadcasting his full name to us, as he claims, through telepathy. This all suggests he is simply pulling our legs. and has no belief in telepathy. |
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So why was this "easy to verify" three months ago, but not now?
You don't have to do you? You can make animals do things and we can observe the statistical results. That is your specific claim. Can you still make animals do things, that can be verified: YES or NO? |
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Perhaps he, like me, isn't always thinking logically?
I recognize that many here believe that he is pulling our legs, but I have experienced other individuals with similar beliefs as Michel H who are very sincere about their beliefs despite the obvious contradictions and failures when examined logically. Unlike telepathy, which is simply non-existent,people's minds are very complex and difficult to reach simple conclusions about. |
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I understand your point of view. If it were some person at a party or someone chatting at a bus stop, then I would leave the matter alone.
However, Michel H has specifically posted his claim on numerous skeptic forums and invited skeptics to pull his claim apart. It is his choice. Additionally, Michel H does seem to be posting very specific defence mechanisms ( "Yes, but....") which suggests he knows the specific holes in his own claim. I think that that behaviour reduces the probability that he is sincere. |
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Not simultaneously. I exceptionally posted my full name on this forum in November 2013, three years ago, to explain I had a Physics degree (Doctor of Philosophy in the major of Physics). When I start a new telepathy test on a forum, I generally use the name "Michel H", like you just did, which is fine.
I often notice telepathic reactions from animals (like from car drivers near my building), but this doesn't mean I can control them. For example, when a dog seems to be upset and is barking a lot, I can try to calm him/her down by talking to him/her, this frequently works very well. |
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You mean sometimes a dog stops barking.
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Sometimes, but not necessarily (he/she can also bark less loudly, or differently). Animals, who generally cannot talk, are often good at expressing feelings and emotions in a fairly accurate way by making various noises. For example, yesterday, I pointed out that dogs cannot write, and today I noticed, from their barking, that they felt somewhat offended and slightly upset by that statement I made. I am used to these telepathic phenomena, they happen all the time, and on a worldwide scale.
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Did it never occur to you that dogs can bark however loud they want to?
See, dogs are not people. Ask yourself why it is necessary to point out this obvious fact. Oh right. They started a worldwide movement, did they? Wrote to their elected representative, eh? Sent a strongly worded missive which was published in the readers pages of the Doggy Times, was it? Then why are dogs not messed up? According to you they are effectively receiving millions of instructions all at once. And all different. The dogs would go insane. Picture it. Some guy on a farm in New Mexico sends Biffo to fetch the broom from the barn, meanwhile Fifi, a poodle in a 16th floor appartment in Paris, falls to her death. The very notion is stupid. |
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Read that. YOU posted your full name. Nobody else, YOU. Why are YOU complaining now about what YOU did?
I posted my own name and my credentials on this site too. Am I complaining about that? No. Because I am not ashamed of who and what I am. I'm entirely happy to stand over my name and the alphabet soup of letters that come after it. I earned that and I'm proud of it. Work done. Success achieved. Earned by merit. In contrast, you are bringing your ravening, worldwide hoards of telepathic, controlled house pets to rule the world. I am currently unaware of any university offering courses in "World Domination via Telepathic House Pets". Perhaps you would be so kind as to direct us to such a course of study that we all might vie for doggie supremacy. Are cats included? Or are they considered too treacherous? How about goldfish? They have the inside track on sharks, you know. Or octopi, I hear they are well armed. |
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Of course, if one were truly psychic and broadcasting to the entire world, then it would be trivial to get people who are able to receive instructions clearly and who are willing to help to sign up to any message board to participate in any test.
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Just so.
You could, if telepathy was real, telepathically direct people to any website, to any URL, to any phone number and so on. You could sell your services for advertising by thinking positive thoughts about any brand who cared to pay you. But none of these things happen. There is no conspiracy of silence, where the entire human race agrees to keep a secret from one man in Belgium for no discernable reason. |
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Originally Posted by Michel H previously
Originally Posted by Michel H today
Either you can make animals do things and "this is easily verifiable", and thus can be measured and produce statistically significant data OR You cannot make animals do anything and therefore you had no reason to think you are telepathic.....in the first place. Which one is it? |
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I am going to tidy up your claim
Michel H's claim in simple terms You are claiming that you can distinguish different emotions in dogs Yesterday, you transmitted a telepathic signal that "dogs can't read". Dogs receiving your telepathic signal became upset, around the world You were able to discern that dogs around the world were upset. Direct Questions for Michel H How do you know dogs around the world were upset if you could not hear nor see them? What exact change in behaviour should the thousands of dog pounds and shelters, across the world, have observed yesterday? If you only saw one dog "responding" then isn't your actual evidence only one dog and therefore you have no reason to think you are telepathic? Do you withdraw your claim "this should be easy to verify" |
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I'm with you. However, for this chapter of Michel's little story, I think we can all enjoy Michel's leg pulling humour.
The claim Dogs throughout the world, are observed as upset, because Michel H broadcast a telepathic message, informing dogs that they can't read. Well isn't it obvious? Has not the meme of dog's bringing the newspaper from the front lawn been a common cultural phenomena? Didn't this meme exist before Michel H broadcast his message to all dogs? Therefore, dogs already knew they couldn't read the newspaper and have known so, for over a hundred years! The dogs aren't upset at all! Therefore Michel is not telepathic. ( My tongue is firmly in my cheek) |
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I do not think my latest test on this forum:
was a failure, and I would like to explain why. First of all, the word I wrote and surrounded was "automobile". The sentence I used to produce the hash mentioned above was: The word iz closely related to "car" and starts with §è the letter "a". (a little note here: Right after I wrote "The sentence I used to produce" above [two lines ago], I heard a dog bark with amusement and excitation. So, I stopped typing, I raised my arm, and pointed towards him/her, and the window, and the barking immediately stopped, even though, on my sixth floor, I couldn't see the dog, and the dog couldn't see me). To my great regret, nobody answered clearly one of the four possible answers of this test. However, Yeggster said: , which resembles "You have circled an automobile". Therefore, it is fair to say (it seems to me) that he suggested the correct answer, rather than giving it clearly. DuvalHMFIC, who gave an answer related to the correct one in the previous test (link) said: Like when fagin answered "train" instead of "automobile" in the first "automobile- boat - plane - submarine" test I did on this forum (link), I believe it is fair to say that DuvalHMFIC's answer is related to the correct one, because a skateboard is a simple wheeled ground vehicle. In addition, a rhombus is a quadrilateral, like (roughly) a car (and unlike planes, submarines, and most boats). So, I think DuvalHMFIC would indeed probably deserve a few points if these tests gave points. p0lka replied: Hedgehogs are terrestrial four-legged animals, and are therefore more closely related to automobiles than to boats, planes or submarines (he didn't answer a bird or a fish for example - aquatic birds like ducks or swans might be reminiscent of boats). |
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