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Well this should be a slam dunk then.
Caught on another officers body cam having failed to initiate his, found to have falsified a report, city mayor has announced the city has begun the termination process, it's an open and shut case........wait what's that?
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2nd July 2021, 02:28 PM | #369 |
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So it seems some US police are trying to enlist YouTube to stop their misconduct being made public:
US officer plays Taylor Swift song to try to stop video
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2nd July 2021, 08:37 PM | #370 |
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Ohio police chief forced to resign over KKK "prank" on black officer
Anthony Campo, the chief of police for the city of Sheffield Lake, Ohio, was effectively fired by the mayor after a complaint by the police union on behalf of the black officer who was targeted by the "joke", who is not named in any the reports. Security video shows Campo printing out the sign in his office, and then bringing it out to the black officer's desk while that officer is out of the room. Campo takes the officer's yellow rain slicker which is laying folded on the desk, and carefully arranges the slicker's hood to be pointed - like a Klan hood - before covering up the POLICE label on the slicker with his printed sign, which read "Ku Klux Klan". He then goes back into the office. The video does not appear to show anybody witnessing Campo's actions directly. The black officer is seen soon afterwards returning to his desk and noticing the sign. There is no audio, but the officer seems to be immediately asking who was responsible as everyone appears to deny knowledge, including Campo. According to the mayor, Campo was indignant at being dismissed (he was allowed to retire on the spot rather than be fired) and has insisted to news reporters that it was "just a joke" and it shouldn't have been that big of a deal. |
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I've heard OF this kind of situation before a couple of times, where black police officers are seemingly subjected to racist "jokes" and statements from white officers. It's almost as if white cops who are racist have a perception or expectation that black colleagues, by virtue of being cops themselves and occasionally interacting with black suspects, must "get it" (i.e., understand the "truth" about black people) and ought to have no problem with casual racism.
But I can't say I know how prevalent this sort of thing is. It's not uncommon to hear about white cops being dismissed for racist actions and statements but those actions usually aren't directed toward black colleagues. |
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Speaking of termination, the cop that killed Hunter Brittain has been fired. Apparently he didn't activate his body cam until after the shooting, which is a bit of a no-no.
So far no charges, though. |
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4th July 2021, 04:04 PM | #376 |
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Technically, the police version is true. A crowd had formed. Some participants did throw objects (after the police started advancing). An Officer's baton was grabbed by someone (the Officer), the Officer was sprayed with a chemical (by another officer). It is only the impression that they wish to leave that is false. The individual sentences are quite true.
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In this Tweet: https://twitter.com/gravemorgan/stat...299130880?s=20 the police officer assaults a member of the public who at the worst could have been haranguing a police officer and then the police act like a mob.
Who on earth has trained these police? |
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In some cases, the IDF, which are probably among the world's most effective abusers of human rights and masters of using brutality to pacify social unrest.
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Federal prison guards colluded with white supremacist inmates to brutalize anti-racist prisoner, cited the beatings in disciplinary action for "fighting", and have held him in solitary confinement for over 1000 days.
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Indeed.
ETA: and a very timely article was just published on CNN - "July 4th weekend shootings: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend." And the really shocking part? : this was "a 26% drop from last year's holiday weekend, according to the latest data compiled by the Gun Violence Archive." |
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Minneapolis police killed an uninvolved man when they crashed into his car during a high speed pursuit. The man was the uncle of the girl who filmed the murder of George Floyd.
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Officer charged with multiple felonies for opening fire on car full of teenagers.
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One of the discussions we're going to have have some version of sooner or later is the idea of LEO's being LEO's all the time; basically still being cops and/or in the cop mindset after their duties are over.
Basically what degree of power/responsibility/authority an off duty police officer should have is a question we're going to have to put on the table in some form sooner or later. |
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We hit that pretty hard on Guyger. If a cop has police powers when off-duty (virtually everywhere), they can't pretend they have not been rigorously trained in proper responses when convenient for them. You can't claim selective amnesia about the treatment of a suspect when it's your personal Miller Time.
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Yeah but with Guyger it was more a more of a defense, the whole "she reacted X because she was a cop" thing. Her being an off duty cop had nothing to do with her being in the situation. She didn't walk up to the wrong door because she was a cop. It's related and there's overlap, but not exactly what I'm talking about.
We keep having cases of off-duty (or even retired in rarer cases) LEOs still going into situations intentionally and defaulting to "Cop" and these cases don't always go well and I question whether that's a good idea. Maybe it's better if you do your patrol, you hang up your uniform, you leave your badge and sidearm in your locker at the police station and when you step out the door you're the same JoeAverageCitizen as you, me, or any other Tom, Dick, or Harry. No more or no less responsibility/power/authority. You see something you can call 911 like any of us. |
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Ok, I'd agree with that in the abstract. Probably right up until someone with trained police powers was needed in an emergency, perhaps to save a life.
Maybe a halfway measure could be made, where off-duty must defer to 911 calling unless grave peril was imminent? Obvious line drawing problem, but it's a start. Eta: I'd have 'retired' relegated to no powers at all beyond those of any other citizen |
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This might be a useful line of inquiry, but it's probably important to point out that our would-be killer cop's claim about off-duty law enforcement is almost certainly self-serving nonsense, just like his claim to have opened a bottle for a single "sip" of beer.
The claim that he wanted to stop this car because he thought they were fleeing from police or some crime is simply not credible. |
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I don't know exactly how I feel about it either. Not 100% anyway. But as I said it is a discussion we're going to have from some angle at some point in the broader social discourse I think.
I think if you're cop and you encounter a situation outside of your normal duties and you don't inform the broader authorities literarily as soon as it's practically possible, that's a definite no-no. ETA: Thread moved faster than I figure, added quote for clarity. |
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In the United Kingdom, the power of a constable is 'in the person' as delegated by the Chief Constable. A constable always holds the power to make an arrest, in that respect is always on duty.
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"The last words Michael Chad Breinholt heard were, “You’re about to die, my friend.”
... With his hands cuffed behind his back, he briefly wrestled with two officers. One screamed that Breinholt was grabbing his holstered gun. Sgt. Tyler Longman rushed into the room, made his declaration and fired. “He took the time to think about that, to say those words,” Neese said in a recent interview. “And then aim and shoot. And kill Chad.” ... It was his third." https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...hooting-video/ |
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Great we've reached the point that cops see themselves as action heroes so much they have to have pre-kill one liners.
I mean "You're about to die, my friend" is no "It's just be revoked" or "Hasta la Vista Baby" but still... |
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