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Old 15th September 2021, 12:25 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post

About that chip in the vaccine thing, one of the comedy shows last night (I think maybe it was Jimmy Kimmel) it was pointed out that most of those people afraid of a chip in the vaccine have cell phones with GPS in their pockets.
The chips are not in the vaccine. They are in Ivermectin. I heard it from a guy. People should know!
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Old 15th September 2021, 12:28 PM   #242
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Are British people getting crisps in their vaccines?
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Old 15th September 2021, 12:33 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Are British people getting crisps in their vaccines?
Unless they get the pfiz and chips one.
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Unless they get the pfiz and chips one.
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Old 15th September 2021, 03:17 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Spektator View Post
The chips are not in the vaccine. They are in Ivermectin. I heard it from a guy. People should know!
Hey, that's an excellent rumor to start!
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Old 15th September 2021, 04:29 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Hey, that's an excellent rumor to start!
I hear that Covid turns your skin brown kind of like colloidal silver turn your skin blue. The more severe the case, the darker your skin gets.

That'll make them run for the needle faster than Trump can down a Big Mac.
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Old 15th September 2021, 04:55 PM   #247
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The take away from San Diego and Orange County last night is that vaccine mandates are a good wedge issue for Democrats in swing districts/states. Democrats facing a Trumpanzee in suburban swing districts should come on full force for vaccine and mask mandates. They're more popular than anyone thought. The vaccine mandates were more popular in California than the "No" vote on the recall (though data is still being gathered).

Forget the video from the school board meetings, the moderate middle who don't go to school board meetings like vaccine mandates.
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Old 15th September 2021, 08:45 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by Spektator View Post
The chips are not in the vaccine. They are in Ivermectin. I heard it from a guy. People should know!
No rumor, medical fact:
Ivermectinis not given to bulls or stallions designated for breeding, as it negatively affects sperm quality and mobility.
But actual medical facts are not something anti-vaxxers are interested in.
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Old 16th September 2021, 05:48 AM   #249
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
No rumor, medical fact:
Ivermectinis not given to bulls or stallions designated for breeding, as it negatively affects sperm quality and mobility.
But actual medical facts are not something anti-vaxxers are interested in.
Mobility or motility?
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Mobility or motility?
Not mo, less.
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Old 16th September 2021, 03:11 PM   #251
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From the "Rank Hypocrisy" file, comes this story

Faux News have railed against the vaccines, until some of the talking heads had a "come to Jebus" moment and started promoting them and encouraging people to have the jab. Currently, they are railing against Biden's vaccine mandates, calling them "intrusions on freedom" and a “dictatorial approach”

Well embarrassingly for Faux News, it turns out that they have a vaccine mandate of their own, and it is more strict than Biden's. All employees must either be vaccinated, or face daily testing (Biden's mandate only requires weekly testing).

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...tucker-carlson
The vast majority of employees at Fox Corporation, the umbrella company for the conservative Fox News channel, are vaccinated against coronavirus and those who are not will be required to do daily testing, according to a memo sent out from bosses – despite some of its biggest screen stars questioning the vaccine.

In the memo, which was sent out on Tuesday to Fox Corporation employees, Kevin Lord, the company’s executive vice-president, announced that more than 90% of the company’s full-time employees had been vaccinated, CNN first reported on Tuesday night. The information was uploaded on a secure system where employees could share their vaccination status, the memo said.

“Employees who are not vaccinated or have not provided their vaccination status and wish to access one of our facilities will not incur the cost of testing,” a Fox Corporation representative told the Guardian on Wednesday.
Even more embarrassingly for Faux News, The White House has heaped praise on the company for their vaccine mandate!
“Today’s news from Fox News follows a trend we’re seeing across the country: vaccination and testing requirements work,” a White House spokesperson told CNN on Tuesday night, adding: “We are glad they have stepped up to protect their workforce and strengthen the economy, and we encourage them to convey to their audience that these types of practices will protect their employees, their communities, and the economy.”


Oh dear. I don't think these things are going to go down well with Faux's moronic disciples!

One interesting thing here is that daily testing could drive any of these people who are not anti-vax "true bleevers" to getting the jab. Now I don't know if any of you here have had one of those nasopharyngeal swab test for Covid, but I have, and I promise you is a very unpleasant experience that frankly, I do not want to have again if I can avoid it. I can't see those who are not "true bleevers" putting up with that on a daily basis.
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Old 16th September 2021, 03:30 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Faux News have railed against the vaccines, until some of the talking heads had a "come to Jebus" moment and started promoting them and encouraging people to have the jab. Currently, they are railing against Biden's vaccine mandates, calling them "intrusions on freedom" and a “dictatorial approach”

Well embarrassingly for Faux News, it turns out that they have a vaccine mandate of their own, and it is more strict than Biden's. All employees must either be vaccinated, or face daily testing (Biden's mandate only requires weekly testing).

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...tucker-carlson
The vast majority of employees at Fox Corporation, the umbrella company for the conservative Fox News channel, are vaccinated against coronavirus and those who are not will be required to do daily testing, according to a memo sent out from bosses – despite some of its biggest screen stars questioning the vaccine.

In the memo, which was sent out on Tuesday to Fox Corporation employees, Kevin Lord, the company’s executive vice-president, announced that more than 90% of the company’s full-time employees had been vaccinated, CNN first reported on Tuesday night. The information was uploaded on a secure system where employees could share their vaccination status, the memo said.

“Employees who are not vaccinated or have not provided their vaccination status and wish to access one of our facilities will not incur the cost of testing,” a Fox Corporation representative told the Guardian on Wednesday.
Even more embarrassingly for Faux News, The White House has heaped praise on the company for their vaccine mandate!
“Today’s news from Fox News follows a trend we’re seeing across the country: vaccination and testing requirements work,” a White House spokesperson told CNN on Tuesday night, adding: “We are glad they have stepped up to protect their workforce and strengthen the economy, and we encourage them to convey to their audience that these types of practices will protect their employees, their communities, and the economy.”


Oh dear. I don't think these things are going to go down well with Faux's moronic disciples!
I've always said Republican mouthpieces don't believe a word they say. It's all talk to pump up their rabble base. They don't care about guns, or babies, or God or any of the rhetoric. They care about saying whatever is needed to maintain support. That's why I don't blame them so much; they are not guiding their base so much as reflecting it.

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One interesting thing here is that daily testing could drive any of these people who are not anti-vax "true bleevers" to getting the jab. Now I don't know if any of you here have had one of those nasopharyngeal swab test for Covid, but I have, and I promise you is a very unpleasant experience that frankly, I do not want to have again if I can avoid it. I can't see those who are not "true bleevers" putting up with that on a daily basis.
Oh hell yeah. I got tested before vaccines came out as a precaution. It was like they were trying to poke my eyes out from behind.
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Deep nasal swabs aren't really required anymore. Spit, or nostril entry, around here.
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Old 16th September 2021, 07:13 PM   #254
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Faux News have railed against the vaccines, until some of the talking heads had a "come to Jebus" moment and started promoting them and encouraging people to have the jab. Currently, they are railing against Biden's vaccine mandates, calling them "intrusions on freedom" and a “dictatorial approach”

Well embarrassingly for Faux News, it turns out that they have a vaccine mandate of their own, and it is more strict than Biden's. All employees must either be vaccinated, or face daily testing (Biden's mandate only requires weekly testing).

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...tucker-carlson
The vast majority of employees at Fox Corporation, the umbrella company for the conservative Fox News channel, are vaccinated against coronavirus and those who are not will be required to do daily testing, according to a memo sent out from bosses – despite some of its biggest screen stars questioning the vaccine.

In the memo, which was sent out on Tuesday to Fox Corporation employees, Kevin Lord, the company’s executive vice-president, announced that more than 90% of the company’s full-time employees had been vaccinated, CNN first reported on Tuesday night. The information was uploaded on a secure system where employees could share their vaccination status, the memo said.

“Employees who are not vaccinated or have not provided their vaccination status and wish to access one of our facilities will not incur the cost of testing,” a Fox Corporation representative told the Guardian on Wednesday.
Even more embarrassingly for Faux News, The White House has heaped praise on the company for their vaccine mandate!
“Today’s news from Fox News follows a trend we’re seeing across the country: vaccination and testing requirements work,” a White House spokesperson told CNN on Tuesday night, adding: “We are glad they have stepped up to protect their workforce and strengthen the economy, and we encourage them to convey to their audience that these types of practices will protect their employees, their communities, and the economy.”


Oh dear. I don't think these things are going to go down well with Faux's moronic disciples!

One interesting thing here is that daily testing could drive any of these people who are not anti-vax "true bleevers" to getting the jab. Now I don't know if any of you here have had one of those nasopharyngeal swab test for Covid, but I have, and I promise you is a very unpleasant experience that frankly, I do not want to have again if I can avoid it. I can't see those who are not "true bleevers" putting up with that on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
I've always said Republican mouthpieces don't believe a word they say. It's all talk to pump up their rabble base. They don't care about guns, or babies, or God or any of the rhetoric. They care about saying whatever is needed to maintain support. That's why I don't blame them so much; they are not guiding their base so much as reflecting it.



Oh hell yeah. I got tested before vaccines came out as a precaution. It was like they were trying to poke my eyes out from behind.
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Deep nasal swabs aren't really required anymore. Spit, or nostril entry, around here.
Hmmmm...'suddenly and mysteriously', all the nostril and spit tests go missing and all that's available are the deep nasal swabs......
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If only that photo was not in black and white... then I could have captioned it... "Well, colour me surprised!!!"
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That'll make them run for the needle faster than Trump can down a Big Mac.
Ha!

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Deep nasal swabs aren't really required anymore. Spit, or nostril entry, around here.
If you are talking about Rapid Antigen Tests, those tests are less accurate than the PCR test; more false positives, more false negatives, more inconclusives.

PCR tests are considered the gold standard for Covid-19 testing. If you are asked to show proof of a Covid-19 you are required to provide results from a PCR test.

As far as I am aware, Fox are using the PCR test.
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You need both - PCR takes a long time, given that, ideally, you would test every day.
It's not that useful today to know that yesterday I was fine.
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You need both - PCR takes a long time, given that, ideally, you would test every day.
It's not that useful today to know that yesterday I was fine.
True. BV anyone entering the building of a client of ours was tested both ways.
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I thinking they are should pass a law requiring everyone that can get vaccinated to get the vaccine. (unless you have a legit and sound medical reason why you can't vaccines, and I mean one where a legit doctor tells you, you can't have vaccines.)

If not getting vaccinated, effected yourself and only yourself, I would then then leave it up to each and every individual to decide for themselves. But in this case, it effects not only you, but everyone around you.

I say enough is enough. Everyone who can take the vaccine should be required to. This is an emergency.
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I thinking they are should pass a law requiring everyone that can get vaccinated to get the vaccine. (unless you have a legit and sound medical reason why you can't vaccines, and I mean one where a legit doctor tells you, you can't have vaccines.)

If not getting vaccinated, effected yourself and only yourself, I would then then leave it up to each and every individual to decide for themselves. But in this case, it effects not only you, but everyone around you.

I say enough is enough. Everyone who can take the vaccine should be required to. This is an emergency.
So I can pop on over to the local chiropractor and have her write me a note then?


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Obviously a doctor more legit than that. It has to be the proper kind of doctor for diagnosing whatever the medical condition it is the the renders the person in question incapable to getting vaccines. I don't know of any medical conditions the preclude getting vaccines where a chiropractor would be the kind of doctor to diagnose it.
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Welcome, by the way!
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Obviously a doctor more legit than that. It has to be the proper kind of doctor for diagnosing whatever the medical condition it is the the renders the person in question incapable to getting vaccines. I don't know of any medical conditions the preclude getting vaccines where a chiropractor would be the kind of doctor to diagnose it.
Maybe you have smilies turned off, but I was being sarcastic because of stuff like this:
A Florida chiropractor signed hundreds of mask exemption forms for students

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So I can pop on over to the local chiropractor and have her write me a note then?


Welcome, by the way!
I suspect Warbler wrote imprecisely and actually meant MD.

Ditto for the school district in your link.

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I thinking they are should pass a law requiring everyone that can get vaccinated to get the vaccine. (unless you have a legit and sound medical reason why you can't vaccines, and I mean one where a legit doctor tells you, you can't have vaccines.)

If not getting vaccinated, effected yourself and only yourself, I would then then leave it up to each and every individual to decide for themselves. But in this case, it effects not only you, but everyone around you.

I say enough is enough. Everyone who can take the vaccine should be required to. This is an emergency.
I agree.

Welcome to the forum, we do have our moments, but are worth hanging out with.
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If you are talking about Rapid Antigen Tests, those tests are less accurate than the PCR test; more false positives, more false negatives, more inconclusives.

PCR tests are considered the gold standard for Covid-19 testing. If you are asked to show proof of a Covid-19 you are required to provide results from a PCR test.

As far as I am aware, Fox are using the PCR test.
I am going by what they are using for weekly testing in the workplace, around here. Even prior to a recent medical procedure, it was just a general nasal swab.
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Maybe you have smilies turned off, but I was being sarcastic because of stuff like this:
yeah, unfortunately I am terrible at detecting sarcasm in text only things like forum posts. Also I had not heard of this Florida Chiropractor story.

(I had to delete the link in your post. Apparently I have to have a certain number of posts before links are allowed in my posts, I guess that also includes quotes of other peoples' posts.)
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I agree.

Welcome to the forum, we do have our moments, but are worth hanging out with.
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I suspect Warbler wrote imprecisely and actually meant MD.

Ditto for the school district in your link.

(And i have no doubt you knew that
Yes, a legit MD doctor.
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yeah, unfortunately I am terrible at detecting sarcasm in text only things like forum posts. Also I had not heard of this Florida Chiropractor story.

(I had to delete the link in your post. Apparently I have to have a certain number of posts before links are allowed in my posts, I guess that also includes quotes of other peoples' posts.)
If you go on YouTube, you will find that many Chiropractors consider themselves to be medical experts.
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Old 17th September 2021, 03:54 PM   #273
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
If you go on YouTube, you will find that many Chiropractors consider themselves to be medical experts.
That is unfortunately true.
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yeah, unfortunately I am terrible at detecting sarcasm in text only things like forum posts. Also I had not heard of this Florida Chiropractor story.

(I had to delete the link in your post. Apparently I have to have a certain number of posts before links are allowed in my posts, I guess that also includes quotes of other peoples' posts.)
Welcome. Sarcasm is hard to detect sometimes which is why we tend to use the rolleyes emoji . You can also use the "sarcasm" sign which you can find by going to the smilies to the left and clicking on [More] then drop down the "choose a category" and choose "requests". Just click on whatever emoji you want to use. Play around with them all. You'll find favorites.

Sarcasm is especially difficult to detect when you don't know the characters around here. But be warned, like Trump, some tend to claim sarcasm or "I was joking" when things don't pan out the way they expected. You'll get the drift after a bit. Also be forewarned: Cain is infamous for his sarcastic/tongue in cheek/outrageous posts which are not a reflection of his true opinions, usually the opposite. Almost every newbie, including me, fell for it and only then got the 'heads up' on him.

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yeah, unfortunately I am terrible at detecting sarcasm in text only things like forum posts. Also I had not heard of this Florida Chiropractor story.
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Also be forewarned: Cain is infamous his sarcastic/tongue in cheek/outrageous posts which are not a reflection of his true opinions, usually the opposite. Almost every newbie, including me, fell for it and only then got the 'heads up' on him.
He is so well known for this here that the forum actually has its own word for falling victim to his wry wit, it known as being "cained"!


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Also be forewarned: Cain is infamous for his sarcastic/tongue in cheek/outrageous posts which are not a reflection of his true opinions, usually the opposite. Almost every newbie, including me, fell for it and only then got the 'heads up' on him.
The more things change, the more they stay the same, it would seem.
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If you go on YouTube, you will find that many Chiropractors consider themselves to be medical experts.
I guess, but it doesn't make them one.
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I guess, but it doesn't make them one.
They probably have more medical knowledge than the average forum member, though. You'd have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
If you go on YouTube, you will find that many Chiropractors consider themselves to be medical experts.
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They probably have more medical knowledge than the average forum member, though. You'd have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
Both high lighted statements are true. But also rather contradictory, don't you think? And I doubt that either qualifies a chiropractor to sign off mask exemptions.
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They probably have more medical knowledge than the average forum member, though.
That also doesn't make one a medical expert. My Mom having been a nurse for over 40 years probably has more medical knowledge than the average forum member, doesn't mean she qualifies as medical expert. She is not a doctor and certainly not an MD.
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