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Old 4th August 2021, 12:12 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Do you think it would disqualify a Republican NOW? Doesn't seem to matter to them one iota.
This is all about the GOP, of course.
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No it isn't. Most of the comments above are from "liberal commies" condemning him.
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Old 4th August 2021, 12:20 AM   #163
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Old 4th August 2021, 01:05 AM   #164
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Interesting bit about Cuomo and Cuomo and CNN, on CNN:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/03/m...ces/index.html

Chris Cuomo should have gone at least into a hiatus when the whole thing started. Now it's too late and CC and CNN look strange on this one, well CC put CNN in a weird spot by staying on air.
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Old 4th August 2021, 08:53 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Cuomo has to go. Period end of discussion.
Here's a prominent Democrat who agrees with you.
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Old 4th August 2021, 08:59 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by carlosy View Post
Chris Cuomo should have gone at least into a hiatus when the whole thing started.
The problem goes back even further than that. Chris should never have covered or interviewed Andrew ever, at any point. To paraphrase A.M. Rosenthal, it's OK for a reporter to **** an elephant, but they can't cover the circus.
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Old 4th August 2021, 09:18 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
BTW his brother needs to go on hiatus from his TV show.
Which I admit I don't like anyway. He comes off as an insufferable jerk. And enough of his stupid slogans.
Why? Because he took his brother's side?

Does that mean that every right wing reporter that has stood up for Trump should have to go too?
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Old 4th August 2021, 09:31 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Why? Because he took his brother's side?
No. Because he's his brother.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
No. Because he's his brother.
If someone's sibling is bad, that carries over? Is sexual assault an inherited trait?
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Originally Posted by wareyin View Post
If someone's sibling is bad, that carries over? Is sexual assault an inherited trait?
No. If someone's sibling is a subject of news, and that someone is a reporter, that someone should stay the hell away from covering it.

I thought I made that pretty explicit with the whole ******* elephants thing.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
No. If someone's sibling is a subject of news, and that someone is a reporter, that someone should stay the hell away from covering it.

I thought I made that pretty explicit with the whole ******* elephants thing.
Ok, that explains why Cuomo should avoid covering news about his brother. It doesn't explain why Cuomo should go on a hiatus from his show. Is his show exclusively about his brother?
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
No. Because he's his brother.
So what?
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Someone should have stopped this man years ago, before it came to multiple accusations in the media and the courts. It sounds like someone should have told him to knock it off at work.

I should think HR should have gotten complaints and made Cuomo attend gender sensitivity classes like employees often have to.
Never mind "gender" sensitivity. It's not behaviour that's acceptable regardless of genders.
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Old 4th August 2021, 09:58 AM   #174
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
So what?
So don't cover the circus when you're ******* the elephants.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
So don't cover the circus when you're ******* the elephants.
He agreed a year ago not to cover his brother.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
He agreed a year ago not to cover his brother.
He agreed to not keep doing what he should never have done to begin with?

Why was he even allowed to do it in the first place?

Oh, right. CNN. There are no adults in charge.
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He agreed to not keep doing what he should never have done to begin with?

Why was he even allowed to do it in the first place?

Oh, right. CNN. There are no adults in charge.
You're right. But that's irrelevant now. Also, let's not pretend that right wing media cares about conflicts of interest.
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You're right. But that's irrelevant now. Also, let's not pretend that right wing media cares about conflicts of interest.
I am not right wing media. I am not talking about right wing media, and am not making any claim about the problem being partisan. I do care about conflicts of interest. I will do you the courtesy of presuming you do too, and I would like you to return the courtesy of presuming my concerns are in good faith.
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Cable news, generally speaking, is pretty bad. There usually isn't that much news content to fill the day and often the programming boils down to little more than personality driven punditry, be that Cuomo or Carlson or Maddow or whatever.

Having the brother of a powerful politician as one of their big personalities is exactly the kind of thing that cable news would do, and exactly the kind of thing that makes for terrible journalism.

The softball coverage between the two brothers was already embarrassing before the scandal, and now CNN is coming out of this looking like total hacks, which is very much deserved.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
I am not right wing media. I am not talking about right wing media, and am not making any claim about the problem being partisan. I do care about conflicts of interest. I will do you the courtesy of presuming you do too, and I would like you to return the courtesy of presuming my concerns are in good faith.
*Snorts* Okay. I guess you just independently and of your own doing parrot right wing media talking points with 100% consistency.

If you ever have a thought that Fox News hasn't already had, I'll listen.
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*Snorts* Okay. I guess you just independently and of your own doing parrot right wing media talking points with 100% consistency.

If you ever have a thought that Fox News hasn't already had, I'll listen.
Huh. I wouldn't have thought that opposition to blatant conflicts of interest was an intrinsically partisan thing. SuburbanTurkey doesn't seem to think it should be. Do you think trying to make it one is a winning strategy?

Or are you just reflexively attacking my posts because you don't like me?
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I don't think this type of behavior would have disqualified many candidates of either party until a few years ago.
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Do you think it would disqualify a Republican NOW? Doesn't seem to matter to them one iota.
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This is all about the GOP, of course.
It's about a party that elected a man who, before the election, was revealed as thinking he had the right to "grab *****" and sexually assault/harass women because he was 'a celebrity'. It's about a party that elected a man knowing that TWENTY-SIX women had accused him of sexual misconduct, including rape. It's about a party that STILL supports him and is virtually under his control. So, yeah, this is about the GOP.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
I am not right wing media. I am not talking about right wing media, and am not making any claim about the problem being partisan. I do care about conflicts of interest. I will do you the courtesy of presuming you do too, and I would like you to return the courtesy of presuming my concerns are in good faith.
Remember people, it's only bad if the Dems do it. Nothing else to see here, moving along...
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Remember people, it's only bad if the Dems do it.
Who said that? I didn't.
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Who said that? I didn't.
Of course not! Why, how could anyone suggest that only complaining about it when the Dems do it but defending it when it's Right Wing is meant to give the impression that it's OK if you're a Republican?
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Who said that? I didn't.
True, you didn't. But you're only interested in it when a Democrat does it.
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Who said that? I didn't.
Sure you didn't. "I never said those exact words!" We know the drill.
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True, you didn't. But you're only interested in it when a Democrat does it.
What exactly is "it" here?

Keep in mind that what I was commenting on in this latest exchange is the conflict of interest with Chris Cuomo covering Andrew Cuomo, and NOT what Andrew is alleged to have done.

You don't seem to be the only one making this error here. It's quite a peculiar defensive reflex. I could speculate about the psychological motives behind it, but that wouldn't actually achieve anything.
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Of course not! Why, how could anyone suggest that only complaining about it when the Dems do it but defending it when it's Right Wing is meant to give the impression that it's OK if you're a Republican?
Are there posts of Ziggurat defending sexual assault by Republicans?

Are there any comments in this thread of you expressing concern over the Cuomo accusations?
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Are there posts of Ziggurat defending sexual assault by Republicans?
This is actually a distraction. The really odd thing is that this particular exchange wasn't even about sexual assault, but about the conflict of interest in someone covering their own brother. Seriously, trace back the responses, and it starts with this exchange:

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BTW his brother needs to go on hiatus from his TV show.
Which I admit I don't like anyway. He comes off as an insufferable jerk. And enough of his stupid slogans.
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Why? Because he took his brother's side?

Does that mean that every right wing reporter that has stood up for Trump should have to go too?
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No. Because he's his brother.
Nothing about the accusations against Andrew Cuomo is in here. He could be completely clean, an absolute saint, and the criticism about the conflict of interest in Chris covering him would still be just as valid.
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It's about a party that elected a man who, before the election, was revealed as thinking he had the right to "grab *****" and sexually assault/harass women because he was 'a celebrity'. It's about a party that elected a man knowing that TWENTY-SIX women had accused him of sexual misconduct, including rape. It's about a party that STILL supports him and is virtually under his control. So, yeah, this is about the GOP.
So, the actions of Cuomo are about the GOP? Thanks for the clarification...I think.
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I am not right wing media. I am not talking about right wing media, and am not making any claim about the problem being partisan. I do care about conflicts of interest. I will do you the courtesy of presuming you do too, and I would like you to return the courtesy of presuming my concerns are in good faith.
No.

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No.

Trust is earned, not given.
I didn't ask for trust, I asked for courtesy. A courtesy in exchange for a courtesy.

But if you don't want courtesy, then you don't get courtesy. You have shown no indication that you care about conflicts of interest, and you certainly don't seem bothered by this one. I will therefore assume you are not.
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Of course not! Why, how could anyone suggest that only complaining about it when the Dems do it but defending it when it's Right Wing is meant to give the impression that it's OK if you're a Republican?
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True, you didn't. But you're only interested in it when a Democrat does it.
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Sure you didn't. "I never said those exact words!" We know the drill.
You guys really are thin-skinned narcissists.
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Are there posts of Ziggurat defending sexual assault by Republicans?
As they say down here, Bless your heart. The topic of discussion at that point was biased media personalities, as a 4th grade child could have told you.

(Eta: ninja'd by Zig himself in post 190. Who would have thunk it?)

Although, I wouldn't be shocked if Zig had defended Trump's sexual assaults, or Roy Moore's, perhaps Matt Gaetz's? Bill O'Reilly? I can't be bothered to go back and look now, though.

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Are there any comments in this thread of you expressing concern over the Cuomo accusations?
Other than way back in March me pointing out in a cheering manner that over a dozen Democrats in Congress were calling for Cuomo to resign, you mean?

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Originally Posted by wareyin View Post
As they say down here, Bless your heart. The topic of discussion at that point was biased media personalities, as a 4th grade child could have told you.
No, it wasn't about bias either, it was about conflicts of interest.

These are related, but the distinction does matter.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
No, it wasn't about bias either, it was about conflicts of interest.

These are related, but the distinction does matter.
It mattered over a year ago, before Chris stopped covering his brother, thus negating the conflict of interest/bias that you are now concerned about.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
I didn't ask for trust, I asked for courtesy. A courtesy in exchange for a courtesy.

But if you don't want courtesy, then you don't get courtesy. You have shown no indication that you care about conflicts of interest, and you certainly don't seem bothered by this one. I will therefore assume you are not.
It's not a courtesy I would extend to someone who has demonstrated rank partisanship for years.

I think Andrew Cuomo should resign or be impeached if the evidence is true which it appears to be. That said, I don't think his brother should face any penalty unless his wrongdoing can be demonstrated. Being the Governor's brother in itself is not enough in my mind.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
It's not a courtesy I would extend to someone who has demonstrated rank partisanship for years.

I think Andrew Cuomo should resign or be impeached if the evidence is true which it appears to be. That said, I don't think his brother should face any penalty unless his wrongdoing can be demonstrated. Being the Governor's brother in itself is not enough in my mind.
Seems like being Andrew Cuomo's brother is punishment enough.
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Originally Posted by wareyin View Post
It mattered over a year ago, before Chris stopped covering his brother, thus negating the conflict of interest/bias that you are now concerned about.
It's kinda ridiculous that this wasn't a rule from the start. A guy interviewing his own brother isn't journalism.
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