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Old 29th May 2021, 06:06 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
No. If it were I would have put it in quotes. I thought the "natural color of his sweat" would give the sarcasm away, but it being Giuliani, anything is possible.
See, there's no amount of sarcasm, hyperbole or parody that can not be mistaken for the real thing, anymore.
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Old 29th May 2021, 06:07 AM   #162
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And you won't even know they are doing it!

Cate Blanshett was one the few good things about that Indy Jones Misfire.
Really? I thought it was the only role I've ever seen her in where she's actually bad. Cartoonishly so.
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
See, there's no amount of sarcasm, hyperbole or parody that can not be mistaken for the real thing, anymore.
Sadly, that is so true. Says a lot about our state of affairs, no?
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Some new Giuiani information...

From: The Guardian
Newly revealed audio from a 2019 phone call has shown how Rudy Giuliani pressured Ukrainian officials to investigate baseless allegations about Joe Biden

Not necessarily anything new about his activities, but I think this is the first time we actually heard recordings (in Giuliani's own voice)

From: Axios
U.S. District Judge J. Paul Oetken on Wednesday appointed former federal Judge Barbara Jones as a "special master" to review materials seized by the FBI from Rudy Giuliani's New York City apartments...

Nothing surprising... we already knew the judge was going to appoint somebody to review evidence to make sure it didn't violate lawyer-client privilege, but it shows progress in the case.
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Originally Posted by wareyin View Post
It's May 24th, and I don't see anything about Trump having responded. I wonder if he did respond and it's not in the news yet, or if he's just going to ignore this one.
Well, there is a danger in not defending a Lawsuit.... you run a high risk of the judge making a default ruling against you.
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Oh no! One of the finest legal minds is silenced!

From: CNN
Rudy Giuliani...has been suspended from practicing law in New York state....a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Oh no! One of the finest legal minds is silenced!

From: CNN
Rudy Giuliani...has been suspended from practicing law in New York state....a New York appellate court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large
Sadly, not silenced. He just can't practice law in NY but he can still run his mouth.
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DC has now also suspended his Law licence.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-washington-dc

I see disbarment as the eventual outcome
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Old 3rd August 2021, 02:57 PM   #169
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Giuliani's personal defense...

From: The Guardian
“I committed no crime,” the former New York mayor told NBC...“And if you think I did commit a crime, you’re probably really stupid because you don’t know who I am.”....He also said he was “more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail. And if they do, they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I’m not. I didn’t do anything wrong.” Asked why he was willing to go to jail if he was innocent, Giuliani said: “Because they lie. And they cheat.”

In other words, if he goes to jail, he's some sort of holy christian martyr.
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And if they do, they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven . . .
Unclear on the concept.
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Old 3rd August 2021, 03:09 PM   #171
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Giuliani's personal defense...

From: The Guardian
I committed no crime,” the former New York mayor told NBC...“And if you think I did commit a crime, you’re probably really stupid because you don’t know who I am.”....He also said he was “more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail. And if they do, they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I’m not. I didn’t do anything wrong.” Asked why he was willing to go to jail if he was innocent, Giuliani said: “Because they lie. And they cheat.”

In other words, if he goes to jail, he's some sort of holy christian martyr.
Anyone else have Queen flash through their brain when they read this?
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Old 3rd August 2021, 03:17 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Giuliani's personal defense...

From: The Guardian
“I committed no crime,” the former New York mayor told NBC...“And if you think I did commit a crime, you’re probably really stupid because you don’t know who I am.”....He also said he was “more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail. And if they do, they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I’m not. I didn’t do anything wrong.” Asked why he was willing to go to jail if he was innocent, Giuliani said: “Because they lie. And they cheat.”

In other words, if he goes to jail, he's some sort of holy christian martyr.
Oh Rudy, of course we know who you are. You have spent the most part of the last three years showing the world EXACTLY who you are!!
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Old 3rd August 2021, 04:07 PM   #173
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Anyone else have Queen flash through their brain when they read this?
Why yes, and I was just listening to We Are the Champions last night. I was watching a James Corden carpool episode with Gwen Stephani yesterday and they sang that song which then caused me to go watch 3 different versions of Freddie Mercury and Queen because I'm obsessed with Freddie Mercury.

Sorry.... carry on.
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Why yes, and I was just listening to We Are the Champions last night. I was watching a James Corden carpool episode with Gwen Stephani yesterday and they sang that song which then caused me to go watch 3 different versions of Freddie Mercury and Queen because I'm obsessed with Freddie Mercury.

Sorry.... carry on.
I took a pic of my daughter in front of the Freddie Mercury statue in Montreux, Switzerland.

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I took a pic of my daughter in front of the Freddie Mercury statue in Montreux, Switzerland.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9eb4840626.jpg
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Giuliani's personal defense...

From: The Guardian
“I committed no crime,” the former New York mayor told NBC...“And if you think I did commit a crime, you’re probably really stupid because you don’t know who I am.”....He also said he was “more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail. And if they do, they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I’m not. I didn’t do anything wrong.” Asked why he was willing to go to jail if he was innocent, Giuliani said: “Because they lie. And they cheat.”

In other words, if he goes to jail, he's some sort of holy christian martyr.

What a nutjob. And I thought people went to heaven to relax, not suffer. Great answer, Rudy!
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What a nutjob. And I thought people went to heaven to relax, not suffer. Great answer, Rudy!
No wonder he stopped arguing cases in court!
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What a nutjob. And I thought people went to heaven to relax, not suffer. Great answer, Rudy!
Yeah...

Rudy - "they’re going to suffer the consequences in heaven,"

Really Rudy? You don't know your bible very well old chap... Heaven is not the place the bible alleges you will go to suffer consequences!
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Well, I guess he has to earn money to pay for his Dominion law suit somehow...

From: The Guardian
Internet users, should they be inspired to do so, can now buy customized video messages from Giuliani, who has joined Cameo...The price? That starts at $199.

The man who was once billed as "America's Mayor". Who was once thought of as a presidential contender. Who once took on the mob. Is now begging people to pay for videos.
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If the price weren't so high, and the money going to a despicable person, something like a video of him performing "I'm a Little Teapot" might be amusing.
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Well, I guess he has to earn money to pay for his Dominion law suit somehow...

From: The Guardian
Internet users, should they be inspired to do so, can now buy customized video messages from Giuliani, who has joined Cameo...The price? That starts at $199.

The man who was once billed as "America's Mayor". Who was once thought of as a presidential contender. Who once took on the mob. Is now begging people to pay for videos.

How much longer before he tries his luck with OnlyFans ? I mean just by law of large numbers the Crypt Keeper with shoe-polish hair coloring has to be someone's fetish.
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I bet Mike Lindell would hire him to pitch his My Pillow crap on TV.

And if you call now, we'll upgrade you order to the new, deluxe anti-stain 'Rudy' pillow! No more of those unsightly dark stains left by cheap hair dye or mascara!
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Well, I guess he has to earn money to pay for his Dominion law suit somehow...

From: The Guardian
Internet users, should they be inspired to do so, can now buy customized video messages from Giuliani, who has joined Cameo...The price? That starts at $199.

The man who was once billed as "America's Mayor". Who was once thought of as a presidential contender. Who once took on the mob. Is now begging people to pay for videos.
I hope he doesn't move up to "Only Fans".
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Well, I guess he has to earn money to pay for his Dominion law suit somehow...

From: The Guardian
Internet users, should they be inspired to do so, can now buy customized video messages from Giuliani, who has joined Cameo...The price? That starts at $199.

The man who was once billed as "America's Mayor". Who was once thought of as a presidential contender. Who once took on the mob. Is now begging people to pay for videos.
I'm put in mind of a Monty Pythonesque skit where a man slaps and punches himself. If Rudy G is willing to sink that low do that, I'm sure MANY people would gladly pay and pay top dollar, too.
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I bet Mike Lindell would hire him to pitch his My Pillow crap on TV.

And if you call now, we'll upgrade you order to the new, deluxe anti-stain 'Rudy' pillow! No more of those unsightly dark stains left by cheap hair dye or mascara!
....but wait... there's more. No only will you get the new, deluxe anti-stain 'Rudy' pillow, but call before midnight tonight, and you'll also get a free, no obligations quote to remodel your front yard from Four Season's Total Landscaping, as well a credit for the first $100 you spend there. We'll even give you a extra, free, $50 voucher for Fantasy Island, the sex shop and adult book store right next door.
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Internet users, should they be inspired to do so, can now buy customized video messages from Giuliani, who has joined Cameo...
If the price weren't so high, and the money going to a despicable person, something like a video of him performing "I'm a Little Teapot" might be amusing.
Ok, not quite him doing "I'm a little teapot". But, "Legal Eagle" Devin Stone (who runs a youtube channel where he talks about various legal issues) actually paid for one of Giuliani's messages...

As the "legal eagle" points out... Giuliani really should have actually investigated the Legal Eagle channel before recording his message, since the channel regularly criticized Trump and his associates.

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Ok, not quite him doing "I'm a little teapot". But, "Legal Eagle" Devin Stone (who runs a youtube channel where he talks about various legal issues) actually paid for one of Giuliani's messages...

As the "legal eagle" points out... Giuliani really should have actually investigated the Legal Eagle channel before recording his message, since the channel regularly criticized Trump and his associates.

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If anything, that is really, really sad. For someone, once famous, to sink so low as to prostitute himself in such a way for a couple of hundred dollars.
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If anything, that is really, really sad. For someone, once famous, to sink so low as to prostitute himself in such a way for a couple of hundred dollars.
He did it to himself. It's all self-inflicted. I have no sympathy for him.
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He did it to himself. It's all self-inflicted. I have no sympathy for him.
I don't disagree with you. But it is sad just the same.
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Giuliani needs the money. The lawyers trying to keep him out of jail and with a few dollars in his pocket must cost a pretty penny.

He like Lindell and Powell should all lose the Dominion defamation suit. But his big worry is remaining free. I think he's going down hard.
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If anything, that is really, really sad. For someone, once famous, to sink so low as to prostitute himself in such a way for a couple of hundred dollars.
There are quite a few well known celebs in the UK that do it.
They aren't doing it to make money, the cost is between £20 and £30 they do it because it makes their fans happy to have personal message and doesn't take much time or effort.
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....but wait... there's more. No only will you get the new, deluxe anti-stain 'Rudy' pillow, but call before midnight tonight, and you'll also get a free, no obligations quote to remodel your front yard from Four Season's Total Landscaping, as well a credit for the first $100 you spend there. We'll even give you a extra, free, $50 voucher for Fantasy Island, the sex shop and adult book store right next door.
But only if you order in the next 23 minutes.
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There are quite a few well known celebs in the UK that do it.
They aren't doing it to make money, the cost is between £20 and £30 they do it because it makes their fans happy to have personal message and doesn't take much time or effort.
A better question is why is Giuliani doing it, because I don't think it's to make his fans happy.
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Old 15th August 2021, 09:21 AM   #194
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
There are quite a few well known celebs in the UK that do it.
They aren't doing it to make money, the cost is between £20 and £30 they do it because it makes their fans happy to have personal message and doesn't take much time or effort.
I can understand the "I'm doing it for my fans," motivation. But to allow your "image" to be used by a second party for their own purposes without effective restriction does not appear to be a brilliant idea.

And, I think that Giuliani may very well be doing this for money. He did not appear to be very careful in who he endorsed.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
I can understand the "I'm doing it for my fans," motivation. But to allow your "image" to be used by a second party for their own purposes without effective restriction does not appear to be a brilliant idea.

And, I think that Giuliani may very well be doing this for money. He did not appear to be very careful in who he endorsed.
On that note. Check out this video from the Legal Eagle who has trashed Trump, Giuliani, Powell, etc.

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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
I can understand the "I'm doing it for my fans," motivation. But to allow your "image" to be used by a second party for their own purposes without effective restriction does not appear to be a brilliant idea.

And, I think that Giuliani may very well be doing this for money. He did not appear to be very careful in who he endorsed.
It's usually a short 'happy birthday Aunt Edna' type thing.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
On that note. Check out this video from the Legal Eagle who has trashed Trump, Giuliani, Powell, etc.

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The link doesn't work, for me at least, but this one does.
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The Legal Eagle Youtube link had already been posted Friday afternoon by Segnosaur in post #186.
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A few new developments, sort of Giuliani-adjacent:

Remember how Giuliani was having trouble with his cash-flow, and nobody (not even Trump) was helping? Well, it seems the GOP does have at least some cash to throw around.

From: Yahoo
The Republican National Committee paid $20,000 last month to DiGenova & Toensing LLP, a law firm helmed by two longtime GOP insiders who are married to each other: Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing....Toensing, a former top DOJ official herself, was the subject of a search warrant this April when federal agents seized her phone in a raid at her D.C. home. An earlier “covert warrant” reportedly scooped up other communications via iCloud accounts belonging to Giuliani and Toensing.....Toensing and DiGenova have also played a part in Giuliani’s post-election court challenges, and they were central to the efforts to entice Ukraine to open an investigation into Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden.

Nothing suspicious. Nothing to see here. Move along.

From: The Guardian
A man (Igor Furman) who helped Rudy Giuliani try to unearth damaging information about Joe Biden in Ukraine is expected to plead guilty in a case alleging illegal campaign contributions...

Not sure if his plea agreement involves him cooperating in the case against Giuliani.

And finally we have this:

From: The Independent
Rudy Giuliani was blasted on social media after Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer was seen shaving as he ate at an airport restaurant.

Guess it could have been worse... he could have been putting in his discount-brand hair dye while eating dinner.
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Thanks for the update!
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