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Old 16th June 2021, 07:12 AM   #201
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Trump the 'author'...

From: The Independent
... Trump has lashed out at the publishing industry, calling them “sleezebags” following ongoing reports that he can’t secure a book deal following his controversial time in office....Mr Trump is becoming incredibly frustrated by the fact that those around him, including his former vice president Mike Pence, have secured deals....Mr Trump responded to the swirling rumours, saying that he had “turned down two book deals"...several publishers also told the news agency that they did not believe Mr Trump will have the same global appeal as Mr Obama. Publishers also reportedly worry that Mr Trump would be a “fact-checking nightmare”.

Textbook Trump... fake boasting (claiming unknown publishers wanted to work with him), and Trump lashing out (calling them "sleazebags").

This will doubly hurt, since even Kushner is getting a book deal...

From: Reuters
Jared Kushner, son-in-law of former U.S. President Donald Trump and a senior adviser in his administration, has reached a deal to write a book billed by his publisher as the "definitive" recounting of Trump's presidency.
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Old 16th June 2021, 07:21 AM   #202
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Trump the 'author'...

From: The Independent
... Trump has lashed out at the publishing industry, calling them “sleezebags” following ongoing reports that he can’t secure a book deal following his controversial time in office....Mr Trump is becoming incredibly frustrated by the fact that those around him, including his former vice president Mike Pence, have secured deals....Mr Trump responded to the swirling rumours, saying that he had “turned down two book deals"...several publishers also told the news agency that they did not believe Mr Trump will have the same global appeal as Mr Obama. Publishers also reportedly worry that Mr Trump would be a “fact-checking nightmare”.

Textbook Trump... fake boasting (claiming unknown publishers wanted to work with him), and Trump lashing out (calling them "sleazebags").

This will doubly hurt, since even Kushner is getting a book deal...

From: Reuters
Jared Kushner, son-in-law of former U.S. President Donald Trump and a senior adviser in his administration, has reached a deal to write a book billed by his publisher as the "definitive" recounting of Trump's presidency.
Has he even secured the services of a competent ghost-writer yet? Surely there must be one from his entourage or followers who is not crazy, can write competent English, has the hide of a hippo to weather his ranting, and has zero scruples about getting regular pay from T****...

...Oh I see. That's a null set.
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Old 16th June 2021, 07:26 AM   #203
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They all demand to be paid in advance, something Trump never does. They know he will stiff them.
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Old 16th June 2021, 07:26 AM   #204
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Has he even secured the services of a competent ghost-writer yet? Surely there must be one from his entourage or followers who is not crazy, can write competent English, has the hide of a hippo to weather his ranting, and has zero scruples about getting regular pay from T****...

...Oh I see. That's a null set.
I think the trouble might be they worry that "regular pay" might not be forthcoming.
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Old 16th June 2021, 07:34 AM   #205
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I'm not sure what the law is like in the US regarding libel, defamation etc. - does Trump's usual nonsense bring extra problems for the publisher once it is committed to the page?
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Old 16th June 2021, 07:43 AM   #206
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
I'm not sure what the law is like in the US regarding libel, defamation etc. - does Trump's usual nonsense bring extra problems for the publisher once it is committed to the page?
Yeah but in anything the President did while in office is this MASSIVE (understatement) legal quagmire.
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
I'm not sure what the law is like in the US regarding libel, defamation etc. - does Trump's usual nonsense bring extra problems for the publisher once it is committed to the page?


Were I a publisher with some money to burn, I'd buy Trump's book - and publish it as fiction.
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Old 16th June 2021, 09:36 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
Were I a publisher with some money to burn, I'd buy Trump's book - and publish it as fiction.
Or do what his buddy at the National Enquirer did with the stories from his woman acquaintances:

Buy it and Bury It.
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Old 16th June 2021, 09:43 AM   #209
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Trump is clearly demanding too much money for the book, and refuses responsibility for the predictable defamation that he will have someone write.
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Old 16th June 2021, 09:57 AM   #210
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Has he even secured the services of a competent ghost-writer yet? Surely there must be one from his entourage or followers who is not crazy, can write competent English, has the hide of a hippo to weather his ranting, and has zero scruples about getting regular pay from T****...

...Oh I see. That's a null set.
Oh, I could do that. But no NDA, and payment up front, in Cash.... So guess it's a no-starter.

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Old 16th June 2021, 10:04 AM   #211
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After Trump's years of Twitterrhea, there's nothing to put into a book that everyone hasn't rolled their eyes at already.
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Probably not. But the business I would see as ghostwriter would be the book about writing for T****. Hence the "no NDA"

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Old 16th June 2021, 11:44 AM   #213
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Originally Posted by eerok View Post
After Trump's years of Twitterrhea, there's nothing to put into a book that everyone hasn't rolled their eyes at already.
Thanks for my first laugh of the day.
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The guy who wrote “the Art of the Deal” can’t get a satisfactory book deal.

Well, that must be awkward.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
The guy who wrote “the Art of the Deal” can’t get a satisfactory book deal.

Well, that must be awkward.
Great artists often suffer. Alas.
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Old 16th June 2021, 09:56 PM   #216
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He probably can't get a skilled ghostwriter willing to sign the kind of NDA Trump wants.
Every Trump ghostwriter is hoping to write their own Trump book.
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Old 16th June 2021, 09:59 PM   #217
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Were I a publisher with some money to burn, I'd buy Trump's book - and publish it as fiction.
Even that would require some sort of literary competence to induce people to buy.
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Even that would require some sort of literary competence to induce people to buy.
Have you considered the target audience?
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Old 17th June 2021, 06:27 AM   #219
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The guy who wrote “the Art of the Deal” can’t get a satisfactory book deal.
He didn't write it.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
He probably can't get a skilled ghostwriter willing to sign the kind of NDA Trump wants.
Every Trump ghostwriter is hoping to write their own Trump book.


...it turns out the NDA is so restrictive, they can't even publish the book Trump "wrote"...
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The guy who wrote “the Art of the Deal” can’t get a satisfactory book deal.

Well, that must be awkward.
I wonder what would happen if Stubby McBonespurs actually did get a ghost writer to write some sort of book...

After all, the person who actually wrote "Art of the Deal" (Tony Schwartz) has condemned Trump, and claimed that writing the book was the biggest regret of his life. Would some ghost writer for "How I scammed a nation and played golf on the taxpayer's dime for 4 years" turn around a few years later and point out similar problems?
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Also when Tony Schwartz wrote (apparently with almost no actual functional writing input from Trump) the Art of the Deal he didn't have to worry about writing what will amount to a confession ala O.J's "If I Did It."
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The biggest problem will be that now everybody is familiar with Trump's own "writing", so anything other than that will be impossible to pass off as if it were his, but the real thing isn't something anybody would want to read a book full of.
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He didn't write it.
Yes.
I assumed that that fact was so widely known that I didn’t need to put quotes around wrote. As JoeMorgue pointed out, Mr. Chucklehead didn’t even understand that he needed to speak for more than 15 minutes in order for a ghost writer to produce a book. I would be amazed to the point of speechlessness if I learned that Trump read the finished book.
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Yes.
I assumed that that fact was so widely known that I didn’t need to put quotes around wrote. As JoeMorgue pointed out, Mr. Chucklehead didn’t even understand that he needed to speak for more than 15 minutes in order for a ghost writer to produce a book. I would be amazed to the point of speechlessness if I learned that Trump read the finished book.
Well, he is an idiot (Trump, not Joe).
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I would be tickled to death if I learned that “Whose Boat Is This Boat? Comments That Don’t Help in the Aftermath of a Hurricane” (a children’s picture book (published by Stephen Colbert and his staff) made entirely of quotations from President Donald Trump in the wake of Hurricane Florence) outsold anything that comes from Creepy Mc ****face from this point on.
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In the last weeks of 2020 and the first of 2021, the demands from Trump and his allies pushed the department to the brink of crisis. Though most scoffed at their increasingly far-fetched and desperate claims, one relatively high-ranking Justice Department lawyer seemed to entertain Trump’s requests — pushing internally to have the department assert that fraud in Georgia was cause for that state’s lawmakers to disregard its election results and appoint new electors. Trump contemplated installing him as attorney general, as other Justice Department leaders considered resigning en masse.
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Has he even secured the services of a competent ghost-writer yet?
I saw something the other day where he claimed to be writing his own stuff.

Undoubtedly, that's the reason he can't get a book deal. They know he can't create a coherent thought and, what thoughts he does have, he can't write in any coherent way.

His work will be editors' nightmares, in terms of content (lies), construction (rambling) and likely grammar.

And they don't accept books written in Sharpies.
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He didn't write it.
Aw, come on! Trump only met with Schwartz once or twice...hardly knew the guy. He only got Trump some covfefe a couple times while the future POTUS was writing like 18-20 hours a day.
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His work will be editors' nightmares, in terms of content (lies), construction (rambling) and likely grammar.

And they don't accept books written in Sharpies.


Offer him a special publication deal, a la David Mitchell's take on professional sign writers:

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Aw, come on! Trump only met with Schwartz once or twice...hardly knew the guy. He only got Trump some covfefe a couple times while the future POTUS was writing like 18-20 hours a day.
That coffee boy joke will never get old. It's such a transparent lie, like the "Tim Apple" one, that it's both depressing and hilarious that his sycophants and cultists lap it up.
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Windmills, the most prolific killers of our time, they "kill everything"!

"Ostensibly showing up on pal Sean Hannity’s Fox News show Wednesday night to discuss the recent summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump instead spent much of his time grumbling about the thing he hates most: windmills!"

"Over the years, Trump has obsessively railed against wind turbines, accusing them of causing cancer, killing birds, and being just plain ugly. That obsession hit the next level on Wednesday night. “They’re making windmills all over the place. They kill our land and kill our birds. They kill everything,”

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Trump's other pal, Tucker Carlson, claimed on his show last night that the Jan. 6 insurrection was planned by the FBI:
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"They were almost certainly working for the FBI, so FBI operatives were organizing the attack at the Capitol on January 6, according to government documents," Carlson said without showing said documents.

Carlson, the most watched host on Fox News, was referring to the latest indictments handed out in the FBI's investigation of the siege.

His claim relies solely on assuming that anyone listed anonymously as an "unindicted co-conspirator" must have been an FBI agent. Carlson went even further to claim the agents plotted the attack, implying it may not have happened without them.
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"It turns out that this 'white supremacist insurrection' was — again, by the government's own admission in these documents — organized by government agents," Carlson said, raising the tone of his voice to convey that he was not serious in describing January 6 as a white supremacist insurrection.

He played a clip from Wray's testimony on Capitol Hill where he said the FBI is focused on getting "better sources, better information, better analysis" from white supremacist groups to prevent another insurrection from happening.

Although Carlson kept referring to "government documents," he did not show any on screen.
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Sometimes Trump's weirdly obscure obsessions that he brings up when nobody asked about them remind me of the way Tinkerbell and other fairies were described when they were introduced in Peter Pan: a brain so small it couldn't contain very many different ideas.
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I didn't know whether to post this here or in the post-Trump fascist thread but decide here since it has to do with the election and The Big Lie.

CNN did an in-depth look at who the Cyber Ninjas, the group hired to conduct the AZ Republicans' so-called audit. Sure, we knew they had no experience in auditing elections and the owner, Doug Logan, is a Trumper who supports the Big Lie. But it's even worse than we thought. Their 'office' is a post office box at a UPS store. Even Logan's friend of 15 years thinks "he's nuts".

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Cyber Ninjas exists mostly in virtual reality, with its chief executive, Doug Logan, also serving as, well, pretty much everything.
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At that conference, he refused to answer questions about how he'd repeated and amplified various debunked election-fraud conspiracy theories on social media, such as this retweet unearthed by the Arizona Mirror, for example: "I'm tired of hearing people say there was no fraud. It happened, it's real, and people better get wise fast." He'd also provided, in a Michigan election lawsuit, an affidavit alleging vulnerabilities in one county's system for tallying votes; state and county officials disagreed, identified a slew of problems with the analysis. And Logan repeated disproven claims in a paper he wrote for Republican US senators objecting to Congress's Jan. 6 certification of President Joe Biden's election win.
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"It's hard to say anything bad about the guy. He's a lovely person. He's just nuts now," said Tony Summerlin, who has been friends with Logan for 15 years, and said he helped him win a cybersecurity contract with the Federal Communications Commission five years ago. "It's scary; because if someone like him can turn into this, who can't turn into this?"
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Another friend of Logan, who asked not to be named because she works with both Republicans and Democrats in Washington, DC, and feared blowback from being linked to him, described him as very smart, very competent in cybersecurity, and politically naïve. "Doug may not have thought it all the way through," she said.
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But also in November, within days of Trump's election loss, Logan was messaging Ron Watkins. The recent HBO documentary "Q: Into the Storm," pointed to Watkins as either being "Q" or at least a key promulgator of the QAnon conspiracy theories that helped animate many of those who stormed the US Capitol on Jan. 6.

In a series of archived tweets from a now-deleted account between Nov. 12 and December, first reported by The Daily Beast, Logan messaged Watkins, "I'd love to chat if you have a chance;" asked Watkins for links to "original source documents;" and tagged Watkins on his exchanges with attorneys Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, who filed numerous lawsuits challenging Biden's victory and baselessly claiming electoral fraud.

Wood also told a reporter for Talking Points Memo that Logan had visited his home in South Carolina to meet with others "working on the investigation into election fraud."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/polit...nvs/index.html

One has to ask ( insert sarcasm here) exactly why this 'company' was hired to conduct a so-called audit.
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I didn't know whether to post this here or in the post-Trump fascist thread but decide here since it has to do with the election and The Big Lie.
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Trump could release a completely blank book, and it would top the Bestseller lists, because conservative groups would buy them in bulk at exactly the same time and then find a storage locker to dump them, as they have done for so many right-wingers in the past.
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Trump could release a completely blank book, and it would top the Bestseller lists, because conservative groups would buy them in bulk at exactly the same time and then find a storage locker to dump them, as they have done for so many right-wingers in the past.
Why not. He's done that before.
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I didn't know whether to post this here or in the post-Trump fascist thread but decide here since it has to do with the election and The Big Lie.

CNN did an in-depth look at who the Cyber Ninjas, the group hired to conduct the AZ Republicans' so-called audit. Sure, we knew they had no experience in auditing elections and the owner, Doug Logan, is a Trumper who supports the Big Lie. But it's even worse than we thought. Their 'office' is a post office box at a UPS store. Even Logan's friend of 15 years thinks "he's nuts".








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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/17/polit...nvs/index.html

One has to ask ( insert sarcasm here) exactly why this 'company' was hired to conduct a so-called audit.
I have to tell you, Ron Watkins name comes up in all this so often, it's actually pretty impressive. It's a lot of other things also, like horrifying, but still have to give the guy some credit. For a time, and maybe even still, he's one of the most influential people in American politics. He's like an even more crazy Steve Bannon.
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Trump could release a completely blank book, and it would top the Bestseller lists, because conservative groups would buy them in bulk at exactly the same time and then find a storage locker to dump them, as they have done for so many right-wingers in the past.
Actually those right wing writers buy a couple thousand copies of their own books to make it look like they wrote a best seller.

For example: WA Po 2019: Donald Trump Jr. thanked the ‘Deplorables’ for making him a bestselling author. The RNC spent $94,800 on his book.
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