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Old 31st October 2021, 11:48 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
Drive offs from petrol stations is a regular call for the police, who have to give the driver the opportunity to return and pay. Being allowed to fill up before payment opens the door to mistakes (forgot wallet, I've done that), to insufficient funds and card rejected. It makes proving theft surprisingly hard.
I would think this would be seen as a poor use of police resources. If the cops refused to respond to such calls, the oil industry (it's not like they don't have any money) would have to upgrade their equipment. Pay-at-the-pump with a credit card or pay-before-you-pump with cash has been the norm in the U.S. for decades.
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Old 31st October 2021, 11:49 AM   #362
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Wait. Isn't the commemorative coin worth more than the face value? Wouldn't that be a good deal for the store? I would love to sell you $20 worth of anything you want in exchange for a $20 double eagle (which is currently worth around $1900). Is this really a police matter?
Most of these coins are just pretty coins, usually not worth very much more than their face value, plus of course to get that value someone would have to send the coin to their head office, they would then have to get it valued and sold etc.

The way to have got him would be to accept his coin as legal tender and then not given him any change. See the quote above by the Royal Mint.
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Old 31st October 2021, 02:50 PM   #363
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Wait. Isn't the commemorative coin worth more than the face value? Wouldn't that be a good deal for the store? I would love to sell you $20 worth of anything you want in exchange for a $20 double eagle (which is currently worth around $1900). Is this really a police matter?
Did you read my earlier post? If I recall correctly he's picking these up for around 60 on Ebay.
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Old 31st October 2021, 02:54 PM   #364
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
Did you read my earlier post? If I recall correctly he's picking these up for around 60 on Ebay.
Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for 100.
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Old 31st October 2021, 03:04 PM   #365
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for 100.
Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?
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Old 31st October 2021, 03:20 PM   #366
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?
Or they are hoping the auction will go over the face value?

Cheapest I can find the 100 Trafalgar Square commemorative silver coin on ebay is an auction with a starting price of 99 and some 'buy it nows' at around 120 to 140.
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Old 1st November 2021, 06:32 AM   #367
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?
A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a 100 in a different legal tender.
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Old 1st November 2021, 07:11 AM   #368
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Most of these coins are just pretty coins, usually not worth very much more than their face value, plus of course to get that value someone would have to send the coin to their head office, they would then have to get it valued and sold etc.

The way to have got him would be to accept his coin as legal tender and then not given him any change. See the quote above by the Royal Mint.
Originally Posted by Darat View Post
A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a 100 in a different legal tender.
Well, maybe their first google search didn't find the right answer.
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Old 1st November 2021, 09:40 AM   #369
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Which doesn't make sense as they are legal tender and can be exchanged for 100.
Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
Perhaps the people selling them on ebay are either not aware of that, or have acquired them in such a way that means they are happy for a lower return and less attention from an official source?
Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Or they are hoping the auction will go over the face value?

Cheapest I can find the 100 Trafalgar Square commemorative silver coin on ebay is an auction with a starting price of 99 and some 'buy it nows' at around 120 to 140.
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A quick google search would tell someone they can take it to the post office and get a 100 in a different legal tender.
3.45 mark confirms my recollection is only out by around 13.50. You might find the whole video interesting as it contains his interrogation and he runs rings around a desperate officer who is clearly out of his depth.

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Old 2nd November 2021, 03:32 AM   #370
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Two Met police officers have admitted taking photos of the bodies of murdered sisters Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry at the crime scene and sending them via WhatsApp to other officers.

47 yo PC Deniz Jaffer and 33 yo PC Jamie Lewis pleaded guilty to misconduct in public office. Sentencing will take place at a later date.

CPS reveals PC Lewis edited one of the pictures by superimposing his own face onto the photograph with the victims in the background.

The judge told the officers it’s extremely they will face custodial sentences of some length.

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Old 2nd November 2021, 03:51 AM   #371
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
3.45 mark confirms my recollection is only out by around 13.50. You might find the whole video interesting as it contains his interrogation and he runs rings around a desperate officer who is clearly out of his depth.

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Damn video won't open here no matter what I try (maybe because my browser is in restricted mode) - go here to watch it.

https://youtu.be/n05l95oTOSM
Shows police ineptitude but also that he is a dick and doesn't know the law as well as he thinks he does.
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Old 2nd November 2021, 06:20 AM   #372
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...snip...he is a dick and doesn't know the law as well as he thinks he does.
You should watch his other videos, they will confirm your assessment.
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https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/04/polic...-day-15540812/

"A policeman who said he was so badly hurt in a crash he ‘couldn’t even lift a kettle’ has been jailed for defrauding his force of 150,000.
For more than two years, PC Matthew Littlefair, 36, claimed full pay and benefits while ‘putting on an act’ that he was too injured to work."

Despite evidence from his own phone that he did 10,000 steps a day, he still turned up at court in a wheelchair!
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Cleveland police and crime chief faces sexual assault investigation
Steve Turner to be investigated after referral to police watchdog over alleged conduct before assuming role

Steve Turner, who became Cleveland police and crime commissioner in May, is resisting pressure to resign after the revelation by the Mirror.
Turner, a Conservative, was already in the spotlight after he was named in parliament as having been cautioned some years ago for theft when he worked at a supermarket.

His job gives him oversight of Cleveland police, which in 2018 became the first English police force to be rated inadequate across all areas.
The police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), has now begun an investigation into the allegation of a historical sexual offence. The investigation will be carried out by another force.

An IOPC spokesperson said: “Any allegation that a criminal offence may have been committed by a police and crime commissioner (PCC) must be referred by the appropriate authority to the IOPC to determine whether the matter should be investigated.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-investigation
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A FORMER Met Police sergeant is among eight people charged with bribery offences in connection with the licensing of business premises in Westminster.

The charges follow an investigation by the force’s "Line of Duty" Directorate of Professional Standards Anti-Corruption Command.

They were charged today (Wednesday, November 10) with conspiracy to commit bribery.

The charges centre around allegations of bribery to get certain door security firms working in nightclubs and strip clubs in the area.

https://www.essexnewsandinvestigatio...ster-licensing
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At least this story is on the same day;

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2021...ree-more-women

"Following a referral of evidence by Hertfordshire Constabulary, the CPS has now charged David Carrick with a total of 14 alleged offences against four women."

as this story;

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-11-24/...sisters-sacked

"Met officers who took photos of murdered Wembley sisters Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry sacked"

In the past, it is likely those officers would have got a warning and kept their jobs.
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