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Old 20th November 2021, 02:41 PM   #961
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LOL, after edit:

Originally Posted by dann View Post
Why doesn't Childlike Empress present the full picture?

You are hereby allowed to address me directly.
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Old 20th November 2021, 11:50 PM   #962
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Saturday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 20, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,483 (15,110) 1,228* 30 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 23.
Denmark: 482 (2,807) 3,795* 50 *of 189,557 tests (2%); Fully vacc. 4,437,988 (75.64% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,538,551 (77.35%)
Finland: 225 (1,249) 1,191 41 New numbers Monday, Nov 22.
Norway: 182 (999) ,338 58
Iceland: 99 (34) 192 5 New numbers Monday, Nov 22
Active cases in Iceland 1,848, New Zealand 4,437, Faroe Islands 337, Greenland 167 First Covid-19 death in Greenland.
The Faroe Islands have 8 hospitalized - Booster shots for everyone aged 18+

New Zealand:
12 DHBs pass 90% first dose vaccinations; over 1 million My Vaccine Passes created; 83 in hospital & five in ICU; 149 cases (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 21, 2021)
Unusual bedfellows: how gangs are pushing New Zealand’s Covid vaccination drive (The Guardian, Nov 21, 2021)
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Old 21st November 2021, 12:23 AM   #963
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
... while the situation in Sweden is calm and safe.

Meet Eric Hammarstrand, disabled Swede. Since the beginning of the pandemic, he has been writing about what Sweden's (lack of) restrictions and PPE is like for the minorities who are considered to be 'dry tinder', i.e. who are to be ignored as mere death statistics because they have comorbidities and consequently don't really matter in the big picture. The Swedish version of eugenics.
Hammarstrand mostly writes in Swedish, but sometimes in English, currently often about Sweden discarding vaccines passing their use-by date instead of having been offered to hospital workers and the disabled as booster shots. (Why this doesn't happen? Don't ask, it just doesn't. It's a Swedish thing!)

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Hi there media,
I’m Eric Hammarstrand, a Swedish disability activist who’s been active in the debate on Sweden’s pandemic strategy, which has been catastrophic for disabled people – with no real lockdown, no masks and from 1 November, no testing for vaccinated people.
Eric Hammarstrand on Twitter (Nov 10, 2021)

Sweden's disability Russian roulette - Eric Hammarstrand on Covid (Our Man in Stockholm, Soundcloud, Nov 12, 2021)

Calm and safe?! Yeah, right!
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Old 21st November 2021, 01:12 PM   #964
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"Our high death toll benefits us now"

The title of a Swedish article yesterday:
Experten: "Våra höga dödstal gynnar oss nu"
The expert: "Our high death toll benefits us now"
https://twitter.com/r_hellqvist/stat...13689142419459

Since then, they seem to have changed the online title, but the quotation from a Swedish researcher is still there:
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När länderna runt omkring oss nu drabbas av en fjärde våg kan Sverige klara sig lindrigare undan – tack vare vår annorlunda strategi. Det menar forskare.
Uno Wennergren, professor i teoretisk biologi, tillhör dem som inte tror på någon högre smittspridning.
– Våra höga dödstal gynnar oss nu, säger han.
Forskare: Sveriges höga dödstal kan minska risken för fjärde våg (DagensNyheter.se, Nov 20, 2021)
When the countries around us are now hit by a fourth wave, Sweden may be affected milder - thanks to our different strategy. Researchers think so.
Uno Wennergren, professor of theoretical biology, is among those who doesn't believe in any higher spread of the virus.
- Our high death toll benefits us now, he says
Researchers: Sweden's high death toll may lower the risk of a fourth wave

Maybe those researchers are actually unaware that Sweden's (relatively) low numbers are based on all the testing that Sweden doesn't do. Maybe they are just playing along ...

Originally Posted by dann View Post
In Sweden, 86,000 people were tested last week. In Denmark, more than one million were tested.
The Swedish model?

This is something people should keep in mind whenever they hear somebody claiming that the Swedish pandemic response has been a success. Another thing is the death toll per million: more than three times higher in Sweden than in Denmark, and even less in the other Nordics.
And a third thing is the percentage of positives: In Sweden, it is currently 5.9 percent.
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Old 21st November 2021, 10:10 PM   #965
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Sunday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 21, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,483 (15,110) 1,228* 30 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 23.
Denmark: 483 (2,810) 3,415* 51 *of 143,762 tests (2.38%); Fully vacc. 4,439,183 (75.66% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,540,809 (77.39%)
Finland: 225 (1,249) 1,191 41 New numbers Monday, Nov 22.
Norway: 182 (999) 1,470 58
Iceland: 99 (34) 192 5 New numbers Monday, Nov 22 Why has vaccination not led to herd immunity in Iceland? What is Iceland’s strategy for tackling COVID now?
Active cases in Iceland 1,848, New Zealand 4,638, Faroe Islands 372, Greenland 167
The Faroe Islands have 8 hospitalized

New Zealand:
Update on COVID-19 cases — 22 November 2021 (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 22, 2021)

Greenland:
Grønland udelukker ikke-vaccinerede fra offentlige steder (TV2.dk, Nov 21, 2021)
Greenland excludes the unvaccinated from public places
After the first Covid-19 death on Saturday, the government of Greenland has made access to most public places dependent on vaccination, for instance restaurants, libraries, community centers, cinemas, fitness centers, hair dressers, shops that don't sell food. Testing negative will no longer enough.
Greenland is the least vaccinated of the Nordics: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

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Old 22nd November 2021, 11:47 PM   #966
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Monday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 22, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,483 (15,110) 1,228* 30 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 23.
Denmark: 484 (2,816) 3,711* 50 *of 133,782 tests (2.77%); Fully vacc. 4,439,998 (75.67% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,542,197 (77.41%)
Finland: 227 (1,258) 2,616* 43 *Since Friday
Norway: 183 (1,002) 2,391 57
Iceland: 99 (34) 78* 3 *Since Friday - “I Believe We’ve Reached the Peak” – Chief Epidemiologist, Even Newborns at Quarantine Facilities
Active cases in Iceland 1,684, New Zealand 4,828, Faroe Islands 368, Greenland 226
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized - 113 new Covid cases since Thursday

New Zealand:
More than 15,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 88 in hospital & 6 in ICU; 1 death; 215 cases (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 23, 2021)
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Old 23rd November 2021, 02:06 AM   #967
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A new Danish study reminded me of this old post defending Sweden's strategy of keeping schools open:

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Arcade 22, May 19, 2021
By the way Sweden has saved billions of SEK for every single day that it has kept primary and lower-secondary schools open. Closing schools costs society a lot of money in the long run. Staff shortages are the main problem: many teachers are in risk groups and anyone who feels sick is supposed to stay home, but it's not like they are piling up dead.

Both Norwegian and Danish experts did not recommend the closing of schools but politicians felt pressured to conform to the "consensus" of shutting down everything.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...2#post13094822
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New working paper w @kbkarlson and some surprising findings:
No evidence of a major learning slide 14 months into the COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark.
No evidence of widening learning gaps by family background.
https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/md5zn
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Jesper Fels Birkelund on Twitter (Nov 19, 2021)
No Evidence of a Major Learning Slide 14 Months into the COVID-19 Pandemic in Denmark (SocArXiv Papers, Nov 8-9, 2021,
Katastrofen, der udeblev (Weekendavisen, Nov 18, 2021)
The Disaster That Never Happened
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Old 23rd November 2021, 11:51 PM   #968
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Tuesday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 23, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,485 (15,126) 3,825* 26 *Since Friday, according to SVT.se
Denmark: 484 (2,820) 4,199* 49 *of 164,596 tests (2.55%); Fully vacc. 4,441,432 (75.70% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,544,923 (77.46%)
Finland: 227 (1,263) 1,088* 43
Norway: 183 (1,003) 1,520 57
Iceland: 99 (34) 202* 3 - Second-highest number of infections
Active cases in Iceland 1,735, New Zealand 5,036, Faroe Islands 376, Greenland 281
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized

New Zealand:
More than 18,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 215 cases; 87 in hospital - 8 in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 24, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 24th November 2021, 11:25 AM   #969
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The Danish parliament will probably reintroduce face masks on public transport and in other public places along with other restrictions tomorrow:

Regeringen vil have mundbindet tilbage (DR.dk, Nov 24, 2021)
Nye restriktioner skal dæmpe coronasmitten: 'Antallet af indlagte kan være fordoblet til jul' (DR.dk, Nov 24, 2021)
Folketingets partier skal tage stilling i morgen (TV2.dk, Nov 24, 2021 - 17:03)

Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people: Denmark
Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Denmark

Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people: Denmark, USA
Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Denmark, USA
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

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Old 24th November 2021, 10:20 PM   #970
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Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 24, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,142) 2,070* 22 * according to SVT.se
Denmark: 486 (2,829) 4,426* 49 *of 181,841 tests (2.43%); Fully vacc. 4,443,244 (75.73% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,547,928 (77.51%)
Finland: 234 (1,302) 1,007* 42
Norway: 191 (1,049) 4,575 57
Iceland: 99 (34) 150* 3 - Open house for vaccination boosters today
Active cases in Iceland 1,758, New Zealand 5,213, Faroe Islands 389, Greenland 300
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized

New Zealand:
More than 18,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 178 cases; 77 people in hospital - 8 people in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 25, 2021)
Not everyone singing from same hymn sheet over vaccinations mandate (RNZ.co.nz, Nov 24, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 25th November 2021, 11:03 PM   #971
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Thursday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 25, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,142) 2,052* 24 * according to SVT.se
Denmark: 488 (2,841) 4,390* 48 *of 183,797 tests (2.39%); Fully vacc. 4,445,283 (75.76% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,550,648 (77.56%)
Finland: 234 (1,302) 1,344* 42
Norway: 192 (1,050) 2,970 57
Iceland: 102 (35) 142* 3 - Iceland's 35th covid casualty, Icelandic Medicines Agency To Approve Pfizer Vaccine For Ages 5-11
Active cases in Iceland 1,728, New Zealand 5,375, Faroe Islands 396, Greenland 301
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized

New Zealand:
More than 18,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 173 cases; 78 people in hospital - 7 people in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 26, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 26th November 2021, 06:36 AM   #972
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New coronavirus mutation has not been found in Sweden, health agency says (RadioSweden, Nov 26, 2021)
Sweden yet to order Covid-19 antiviral drugs (RadioSweden, Nov 26, 2021)
Health Agency announces new home quarantine recommendations (RadioSweden, Nov 25, 2021)
Sweden to offer third dose of Covid vaccines to all adults (RadioSweden, Nov 24, 2021)
Health agency outlines restrictions for events forgoing vaccine checks (RadioSweden, Nov 23, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 26th November 2021, 11:40 PM   #973
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Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 26, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,145) 2,160* 32 *according to SVT.se
Denmark: 490 (2,850) 4,076* 53 *of 194,100 tests (2.1%); Fully vacc. 4,447,093 (75.79% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,553,329 (77.6%)
Finland: 236 (1,309) 1,406* 44
Norway: 192 (1,050) 2,942 62
Iceland: 102 (35) 152* 3 - Vaccine van out and about, May Order 1,500 Doses of a “Breakthrough” COVID Treatment
Active cases in Iceland 1,746, New Zealand 5,505, Faroe Islands 380, Greenland 321
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized - New measures to limit ”unnecessary” Covid testing

New Zealand:
Almost 18,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 145 cases; 1 death; 77 people in hospital - 8 people in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 27, 2021)
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Old 27th November 2021, 11:54 PM   #974
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Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 27, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,145) 2,160* 32 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 30.
Denmark: 492 (2,863) 3,744* 50 *of 198,361 tests (1.89%); Fully vacc. 4,449,125 (75.83% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,555,989 (77.65%)
Finland: 236 (1,309) 1,406* 44 New numbers Monday, Nov 29.
Norway: 192 (1,050) 1,891 62
Iceland: 102 (35) 152* 3 New numbers Monday, Nov 29. PCR Tests and Proof of Previous COVID Infection Accepted for Entrance at Public Events
Active cases in Iceland 1,746, New Zealand 5,582, Faroe Islands 405, Greenland 321
The Faroe Islands have 7 hospitalized

New Zealand:
More than 20,000 vaccine doses administered yesterday; 144 cases; 1 death; 82 people in hospital – 9 people in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 28, 2021)
American vaccine misinformation and extremism is infiltrating New Zealand (NBC News, Nov 27, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Just when we thought Covid was almost over. Sigh. So now Finland has put up restrictions on travel from various South African nations, following the lead of the UK. Private PCR tests here are expensive. Just as well I didn't buy an airline ticket for this Christmas, as who knows what the situation will be in three weeks time.
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Old 28th November 2021, 11:51 PM   #976
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Sunday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 28, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,145) 2,160* 32 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 30.
Denmark: 493 (2,872) 4,290* 51 *of 186,100 tests (2.31%); Fully vacc. 4,450,632 (75.85% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,558,244 (77.69%)
Finland: 236 (1,309) 1,406* 44 New numbers Monday, Nov 29.
Norway: 192 (1,050) 1,721 62
Iceland: 102 (35) 152* 3 New numbers Monday, Nov 29.
Active cases in Iceland 1,746, New Zealand 5,756, Faroe Islands 415, Greenland 321
The Faroe Islands have 5 hospitalized - 129 new Covid cases since Thursday

New Zealand:
90% of Capital & Coast residents double dosed; 182 cases; 93 people in hospital, 10 in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 29, 2021)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 29th November 2021, 12:30 AM   #977
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Just when we thought Covid was almost over. Sigh. So now Finland has put up restrictions on travel from various South African nations, following the lead of the UK. Private PCR tests here are expensive. Just as well I didn't buy an airline ticket for this Christmas, as who knows what the situation will be in three weeks time.

Denmark yesterday confirmed that two suspected cases of Omicron were real.
I got a booster shot yesterday. A bit more confusing than when I got the first two and everybody was getting Pfizer in my area. Now there were lines for Pfizer and Moderna. I guess some of the first very old people got Moderna. They had also started vaccinating the 5-to-11-year-olds, so the age groups all got mixed, and I guess that a few people who had got their first Moderna jabs outside of the region were also there.
I was placed in the Moderna line by mistake, but unfortunately the nurse who was giving me the jab discovered the mistake. I would have preferred Moderna.

Did you see my post about Sweden as a SARS-CoV-2 export country - with Finland as the main import country?

Yesterday, I found this article in a Norwegian newspaper:
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Kritikken haglet mot Norge da nordiske politikere diskuterte koronastengte grenser. Men statsminister Jonas Gahr Støre forsvarte linjen til Solberg-regjeringen.
Blant annet ble Støre beskyldt for «pandemi-nasjonalisme» da han møtte i Nordisk råd i København onsdag.
Kritikken handlet om tiltak som ble innført før Støre-regjeringen overtok, men like fullt avfeide han den.
(...)
– Pandeminasjonalisme
Hans Wallmark fra Moderaterna fulgte opp.
– Det er et problem når den norske statsministeren prater om importsmitte. Det er jo det som har utviklet seg under denne pandemien, nemlig pandemi-nasjonalisme, med stengte grenser.
– Da synes jeg at vi som internasjonalister og nordboere kunne være enige om en sak: Det viktigste var å stoppe smitten, ikke stoppe mennesker, sa han til stor applaus fra salen, hvor parlamentarikere fra hele Norden sitter.
Støre grillet av svenske politikere – Norge beskyldt for «pandemi-nasjonalisme» (Aftenposten.no, Nov 3, 2021)
Criticism rained down on Norway when Nordic politicians discussed corona-closed borders. But Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre defended the policy of the Solberg government.
Among other things, Støre was accused of "pandemic nationalism" when he he attended the meeting at the Nordic Council in Copenhagen on Wednesday.
The criticism was about measures that were introduced before the Støre government took over, but he nevertheless rejected it.
(...)
- Pandemic nationalism
Hans Wallmark from the (Swedish party) the Moderates followed up.
- It is a problem when the Norwegian Prime Minister talks about import infection. That is what has developed during this pandemic, namely pandemic nationalism, with closed borders.
- Then I think that we as internationalists and Nordics could agree on one issue: The most important thing was to stop the infection, not to stop people, he said to great applause from the hall, where parliamentarians from all the Nordic countries are sitting.
(Norwegian PM) Støre was criticized by Swedish politicians - Norway accused of "pandemic nationalism"

The arrogance of those Swedish ******* politicians and their virus 'internationalism'! How do those ******** think the virus gets across the borders?
I can't imagine that any of those applauding Nordic parliamentarians were Danes, Finns, Icelanders or Norwegians.
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Old 29th November 2021, 11:47 PM   #978
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Monday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 29, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,486 (15,145) 2,160* 32 *according to SVT.se New numbers Tuesday, Nov 30.
Denmark: 495 (2,883) 4,326* 60 *of 157,493 tests (2.75%); Fully vacc. 4,451,850 (75.87% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,561,508 (77.74%)
Finland: 240 (1,335) 3,338* 51 *Since Friday.
Norway: 192 (1,050) 2,877 62
Iceland: 102 (35) 69* 2 *Since Friday - Epidemiologist: Boosters should help against Omicron, New Restrictions at Icelandic Borders
Active cases in Iceland 1,746, New Zealand 5,878, Faroe Islands 430, Greenland 300
The Faroe Islands have 3 hospitalized - New Covid variant causes different and milder illness

New Zealand:
86% of the eligible population fully vaccinated; 134 community cases; 89 people in hospital, 9 in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Nov 30, 2021)
Trust in scientists soared in Australia and New Zealand during Covid pandemic, poll finds (The Guardian, Nov 29, 2021)
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Tuesday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Nov 30, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,487 (15,151) 6,011* 42 *Since Friday, according to SVT.se
Denmark: 497 (2,895) 4,148* 60 *of 160,583 tests (2.58%); Fully vacc. 4,454,053 (75.91% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,565,137 (77.8%)
Finland: 240 (1,335) 916 51
Norway: 192 (1,054) 4,045 59
Iceland: 102 (35) 124 2 - Iceland’s Booster Shot Campaign Well Attended, Iceland World Leader in Sequencing COVID-19 Samples (DK #2; N #5)
Active cases in Iceland 1,541, New Zealand 6,008, Faroe Islands 460, Greenland 300
The Faroe Islands have 2 hospitalized - Seventy-three new Covid cases

New Zealand:
More than 41,000 vaccines delivered yesterday; 146 community cases; 83 people in hospital, 9 in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Dec 1, 2021)
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
Denmark yesterday confirmed that two suspected cases of Omicron were real.
I got a booster shot yesterday. A bit more confusing than when I got the first two and everybody was getting Pfizer in my area. Now there were lines for Pfizer and Moderna. I guess some of the first very old people got Moderna. They had also started vaccinating the 5-to-11-year-olds, so the age groups all got mixed, and I guess that a few people who had got their first Moderna jabs outside of the region were also there.
I was placed in the Moderna line by mistake, but unfortunately the nurse who was giving me the jab discovered the mistake. I would have preferred Moderna.

Did you see my post about Sweden as a SARS-CoV-2 export country - with Finland as the main import country?

Yesterday, I found this article in a Norwegian newspaper:

Criticism rained down on Norway when Nordic politicians discussed corona-closed borders. But Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre defended the policy of the Solberg government.
Among other things, Støre was accused of "pandemic nationalism" when he he attended the meeting at the Nordic Council in Copenhagen on Wednesday.
The criticism was about measures that were introduced before the Støre government took over, but he nevertheless rejected it.
(...)
- Pandemic nationalism
Hans Wallmark from the (Swedish party) the Moderates followed up.
- It is a problem when the Norwegian Prime Minister talks about import infection. That is what has developed during this pandemic, namely pandemic nationalism, with closed borders.
- Then I think that we as internationalists and Nordics could agree on one issue: The most important thing was to stop the infection, not to stop people, he said to great applause from the hall, where parliamentarians from all the Nordic countries are sitting.
(Norwegian PM) Støre was criticized by Swedish politicians - Norway accused of "pandemic nationalism"

The arrogance of those Swedish ******* politicians and their virus 'internationalism'! How do those ******** think the virus gets across the borders?
I can't imagine that any of those applauding Nordic parliamentarians were Danes, Finns, Icelanders or Norwegians.
The medical jargon is quite difficult to follow but I am guessing 'exportation' refers to the source of infections coming into the country? Well, of course, there are many Finns who work or live in Sweden, who possibly carry it back, so it might not be the fault of Swedes.

Quote:
Until March 2021, Sweden experienced a greater number of COVID-19-related cases and deaths in relation to population size than the other Nordic countries [6]. Our genomic analysis shows that while SARS-CoV-2 was imported to all Nordic countries during the same time period in early 2020, Sweden experienced more transmission chains which also tended to be larger, suggesting that Sweden had the least-interrupted community transmission and more established community transmission during the sampling period relative to the other Nordic countries. In all Nordic countries, the size of transmission chains and their duration decreased in the second time period examined here.

Denmark and Sweden acted as exporters of SARS-CoV-2 to their Nordic neighbours. Conversely, Iceland, Norway and in particular Finland showed lower levels of virus exportation. At the same time, our analyses indicate that Finland was the main receiver of the exportations from Sweden, suggesting a near unidirectional mode of exportation between the two countries. It is important to note, however, that even with enforced recommendations, one might also have to consider aspects of urbanisation (differing population density not only at country level but also regionally within the countries) and geographical location that vary in these countries. Importantly, Denmark and Sweden are transit countries and the latter has borders with three of the other four Nordic countries.
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But anyway, thank you, Sweden!
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
The medical jargon is quite difficult to follow but I am guessing 'exportation' refers to the source of infections coming into the country? Well, of course, there are many Finns who work or live in Sweden, who possibly carry it back, so it might not be the fault of Swedes.

When you let the virus spread, it obviously spreads to people entering or leaving the country. The point is not so much the nationality of people transporting it from one country to another inadvertently. The point is that the country that lets it spread will share it with neighboring countries, and potentially with the rest of the world: "... the least-interrupted community transmission and more established community transmission ...".
There is no NZ variant that I've heard of.
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Yesterday, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, the guys who award the Nobel Prize, issued its final report on Sweden's pandemic response.
So far, it has been largely ignored by the Swedish media.

New report: 'Mild and tardy measures' led to Sweden's Covid death rate (TheLocal.se, Dec 1, 2021)

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* Early, decisive measures are key to contain a pandemic, an approach Sweden eschewed when Covid-19 arrived, says a group of experts from the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.
* Although Sweden took some measures early on, panel chair Professor Staffan Nordmark says they fell short during the spring 2020 when the outbreak escalated.
* The group was started a year ago to review the latest research and lessons learned from the coronavirus pandemic.
Swedish pandemic strategy inadequate in early stages, expert panel finds (RadioSweden, Nov 30, 2021)
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Wednesday:
Coronavirus - countries (Worldometers, Dec 1, 2021)
Deaths per million (Total deaths) New cases Serious/Critical
Sweden: 1,488 (15,161) 2,639* 41 *according to SVT.se
Denmark: 500 (2,909) 5,120* 61 *of 195,137 tests (2.62%); Fully vacc. 4,457,162 (75.96% of pop.), 1st dose: 4,569,876 (77.89%)
Finland: 243 (1,348) 1,570 51
Norway: 199 (1,092) 3,780 59
Iceland: 102 (35) 161 3
Active cases in Iceland 1,532, New Zealand 6,147, Faroe Islands 482, Greenland 300 Not updated since Nov 29.
The Faroe Islands have 2 hospitalized

New Zealand:
More than 39,000 vaccinations given yesterday; 172 community cases; 86 people in hospital, 9 in ICU (NZ Ministry of Health, Dec 2, 2021)
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