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Old 25th November 2021, 08:05 PM   #761
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New Jersey officer faces charges after body of hit-and-run victim was found in the back seat of his car, prosecutors say

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Santiago has been charged with reckless vehicular homicide, desecrating/moving human remains, leaving the scene of a crash resulting in death, endangering an injured victim, tampering with physical evidence, hindering one's own apprehension, conspiracy to hinder prosecution, obstructing the administration of law and two counts of official misconduct, prosecutors said.
CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/25/us/ne...run/index.html
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Old 26th November 2021, 09:01 AM   #762
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
New Jersey officer faces charges after body of hit-and-run victim was found in the back seat of his car, prosecutors say



CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/25/us/ne...run/index.html
Drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. There's no other reason two people couldn't come up with a reasonable, if tragic, explanation/lie for hitting a pedestrian at 3 o'clock in the morning.
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Old 26th November 2021, 05:10 PM   #763
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Frontline: Shots Fired on PBS investigates the record number of police shootings in Utah.

The primary reason appears to be training. Recruits are taught that only blue lives matter. Training scenarios are design to emphasize that message.

It's also clear that Utah police don't have a clue how to handle mentally disturbed people.
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Old 26th November 2021, 05:11 PM   #764
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Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
Frontline: Shots Fired on PBS investigates the record number of police shootings in Utah.

The primary reason appears to be training. Recruits are taught that only blue lives matter. Training scenarios are design to emphasize that message.

It's also clear that Utah police don't have a clue how to handle mentally disturbed people.
With so many of them being themselves mentally disturbed, you'd think they would.
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Tuscon officer working off-duty security at a Lowes store was fired after shooting a wheelchair bound man in the back 9 times from 5 feet away. Every time a bad shoot happens I think it can't get any worse...and then it does. This one is particularly bad. Murder 1 for this cop or there is no hope.

Warning: this is pretty rough to watch, so do so with caution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0eWZkcDKsM
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Point blank range. 8 rapid fire shots and then after a pause... a 9th?! What the ****?
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Old Yesterday, 09:57 AM   #767
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Originally Posted by erlando View Post
Point blank range. 8 rapid fire shots and then after a pause... a 9th?! What the ****?
Yeah. This one is BAD.
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Old Yesterday, 09:58 AM   #768
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Originally Posted by erlando View Post
Point blank range. 8 rapid fire shots and then after a pause... a 9th?! What the ****?
And then wrestling his limp body to put hand cuffs on.
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Originally Posted by erlando View Post
Point blank range. 8 rapid fire shots and then after a pause... a 9th?! What the ****?
A thin blue line protecting us soft people from the horrors of wheelchair bound assailants.
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It's a guy in a motorized wheelchair and even in the officer's own version of events the only thing he thought he might have had was a knife and he shot him 9 times protecting a Home Depot.

I mean seriously that's the kind of thing I would have made up as a humorous over the top scenario and had every troll on this board screech "Oh that's a strawman hyperbole dramatic" at me.

I swear to God soon a cop really is going to shoot a deaf-blind thalidomide baby 37 times because I just can't make up anything as actually ludicrious as they are doing.

But enough of that. *Claps hands* Trolls! Oh Trolls? Where are you? Come tell us why this is okay you cowards. Everyone is agreeing so we need a contrarian.
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I don't like to do "armchair body language analysis," I think the internet is way too in love with it, but I don't think the other officer (the one we actually have bodycam footage from) was either ready for those shots nor thought they were necessary.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
But enough of that. *Claps hands* Trolls! Oh Trolls? Where are you? Come tell us why this is okay you cowards. Everyone is agreeing so we need a contrarian.
The motorised wheelchair just made him quicker than a normal person - therefore more able to wreak deadly havoc with his knife once he got inside the store.

Also, did you see his criminal record? Attempted murder, aggravated assault, people smuggling? Well, need I say more?
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Also "Ryan Remington" of course that's his name.
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