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Old 14th April 2018, 01:29 PM   #2161
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So where are the electron coming from to charge the dust negatively inside th DC?

There is a excess of electrons, some with high energies.
if i remember correctly ies negative nano dust was measured early in the mission when there was no dc
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Old 14th April 2018, 03:03 PM   #2162
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Did Whipples model include negatively charged nano dust being accelerted of the surface in “jets”?
I don't believe Whipple was looking at such a detailed picture at that stage. Others would do that later. One thing we can say for certain though, is that Thornhill most definitely didn't predict it. I quote from the cornucopia of crap, the orchestrated litany of lies and obfuscation, that is the 'Electric Comet' pdf file, here:
http://thunderbolts.info/pdf/ElectricComet.pdf

I have done a word search on that piece of fiction, and here are the only relevant references to the word 'dust':

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The primary distinction between comet and asteroid surfaces is that electrical arcing and “electrostatic cleaning” of the comet nucleus will leave little or no dust or debris on the surface during the active phase, even if a shallow layer of dust may be attracted back to the nucleus electrostatically as the comet becomes dormant in its retreat to more remote regions.
and.................

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Electrostatic cleaning will have cleared the surface of dust and debris.
Kind of strange how there is more dust as the comet gets active, isn't it? Well, no it isn't, unless you believe in Thornhill's woo, which had already been shown to be wrong, twenty years before he wrote that tripe.
So, I'm not sure why Sol wants to keep reminding us of yet another failed prediction of the loon Thornhill. However, he may carry on if he must.
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Old 15th April 2018, 01:53 PM   #2163
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Reckon he'd be on the money, they are part of the current system that operates at a comet, including interacting with the cometary double layers!
16 April 2018: Comet current system and DL lies
Comet coma are plasma, are in a magnetic field + solar wind and thus have currents but this is nothing to do with his comet delusions.
We have explained why he is lying about DLs at comets before.
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Please point out where the EC has ever said ice turns to ROCK???
16 April 2018: Still cannot understand the stupidity of citing ices and dust papers to support delusions about comets made of rock, etc.
What he replied to was: All their findings still support the obvious conclusion that comets are primarily ice !

16 April 2018: Lies about the electric comet delusions which has no DLs releasing oxygen .
The EC inanity is electric discharge machining doing whatever the Thunderbolts cult want. I have seen an ignorant fantasy of a "double layer of charge, called a plasma sheath, that surrounds the comet."

16 April 2018: Sol88's personal delusion of DLs, diamagnetic cavity, etc.

16 April 2018: Totally stupid ""ices all mixed forgather" questions to derail from his many comet delusions.

In the real world, comet ices are mixed together for the simple reason that they formed from the original mixture of gasses in the early solar system and a mixture of gases being deposited on the comet nucleus in the outer solar system.

10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc.
13 April 2018: A couple of the delusions in Scott's Birkeland current paper.

The electric comet delusion has at least 45 years without a scientific electric comet model or observations to support it !

Getting lose to 3 years of the fear of doing basic physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock.

826 items of ignorance, idiocy (citing irrelevant mainstream papers), delusion and lies dating from 29 August 2016 to 13 April 2018 (maybe hundreds more in the last 8 years!)

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Old 15th April 2018, 02:18 PM   #2165
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Thumbs down Repeats his lie about Scott's deluded paper being about comets

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As described in Scott's paper!
16 April 2018: Repeats his lie about Scott's deluded paper being about comets.

13 April 2018: A couple of the delusions in Scott's Birkeland current paper.

16 April 2018: A "helical tail structures observed" lie.
Birkeland currents possibly impossible in comet tails = no helical tail structures caused by Birkeland currents !
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Old 15th April 2018, 02:25 PM   #2166
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No, intense electric fields will though, SAFIRE has seen this in their experiments.
16 April 2018: The lie that the SAFIRE experiment is on comets.
Possibly millions of experiments have been and are still being done that produce intense electric fields. He is ignorant about for example Van de Graaff generators (one position I interviewed for after university was with a facility using the intense electric fields from one to accelerate electrons to analyze the composition of materials).
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Old 15th April 2018, 02:33 PM   #2167
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Thumbs down Abysmal stupidity about the Rosetta mission (not sent to do 1 measurement!)

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Why bother to send a probe then?...
16 April 2018: Abysmal stupidity about the Rosetta mission (not sent to do 1 measurement!)

16 April 2018: Usual "falsified Whipple’s model" lie.

Rosetta’s data added to the insane deluded nature of his many, already debunked comet delusions.
Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock.
+ a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie
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Not what is said by Mendis!
16 April 2018: A "Not what is said by Mendis" lie.
Mendis might have a fig 1 with "helical structures the knots and the rays" or not given Sol88's documented history of lies. There is no citation or quote of Mendis describing a helical structure moving down the tail.
Mendis's paper was published in 1980.
A tail like no other: RPC-MAG's view of Rosetta's tail excursion at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko was published in 2017.

We draw everyone else's attention to COMETS AND COMETARY MISSIONS* D. A. Mendis published in 1980
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It is generally recognized that comets constitute the most pristine material in the solar system. Consequently, their study could provide us with information essential to the understanding of the basic physical and chemical processes involved in the formation of the solar system.
16 April 2018: Repeats the stupidity of citing a ices and dust comet paper (by D. A. Mendis).

16 April 2018: Usual Birkeland current and DL lies.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie.

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Solid? Yup, certainly is...if you’ve used MHD!
16 April 2018: Irrelevant MHD delusion (just their measured density says comets are not rocks).

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie.
+ irrelevant MHD delusions

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Did Whipples model include negatively charged nano dust being accelerted of the surface in “jets”?
16 April 2018: An insane question to derail from his many comets delusions.

Whipple did not have a time machine and so would not know about the measurements of the sizes of dust around 67P in the Rosetta mission !

16 April 2018: Usual lies about ices and dust papers (Gombosi et. al.)
Negatively charged nano-grains at 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko by Gombosi et. al. is on nano-grains detected in the comet coma.
There are no jets.
There is no acceleration off the surface.
There is
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6. Charging of nano-dust particles
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In addition to Esw, electric fields also emerge on the surface of the nucleus and could contribute to the acceleration of nano-dust particles (Szeg˝o et al. 2014). Ignoring cometary outgassing, the effects of surface electric fields can be quickly estimated to show that their contribution to the energization of negatively charged nano-dust grains is expected to remain negligible.
16 April 2018: An insane "No viable model for “jets”" lie.
Insane because this has been explained in this thread and the viable models are easy to find.
Jets are simply gases sublimating ices with dust escaping from comet nuclei. The obvious physics is that the sublimating ices create pits that guide the gases into jets. The Rosetta mission gave us various images of jet sources. We have actual images of jets escaping from pits ! We have traced jets back to fractured cliffs, etc.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie, irrelevant MHD delusions.

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RPC-LAPElectric Field Signatures at the Diamagnetic Cavity of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko Birgitte Madsen

Have you read it tusenfem?

She’s put some work into this paper.

One of the more interesting conclusions

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When ions moving with a nite speed radially from the comet penetrate into the boundary layer, the movement of the ions will be disturbed by the presence of the solar wind magnetic eld BSW. This leads to an ion gyration of gyroradius rL perpendicular to the magnetic eld lines. After half a gyration, the ions have returned to the magnetic eld free cavity, continuing their motion radially towards to comet. This gives rise to a current JDCBL within the boundary, but no current in the cavity itself, as illustrated in Figure 2.7 (Israelevich and Ershkovich, 1994). Similarly, the free electrons produced by the ionization of cometary neutrals in the cavity will be affected by the presence of the magnetic eld at the boundary layer. The gyration of the electrons is in the opposite direction of the ion gyration, due to the difference in the sign of their charges. Hence, both species add up to the same effective current in the cavity boundary. Since the gyroradius is proportional to the mass of the gyrating particle (see Eq. (2.18)), the electron and ion gyroradii will differ from each other. Ions will therefore penetrate deeper into the boundary than the electrons, leading to a charge separation within the boundary layer. This results in a polarization electric field, in addition to the DCBL current.
A double layer!

Charged particle signatures of the diamagnetic cavity of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko Zoltan Nemeth

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We present the effects of the diamagnetic cavity on the thermal and suprathermal electron and suprathermal ion content of the plasma, and also the probable mechanisms responsible for these charged particle signatures.
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if i remember correctly ies negative nano dust was measured early in the mission when there was no dc
An Investigation Into Potential Causes of the Anomalistic Feature Observed by the Rosetta Alice Spectrograph Around 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko

Close to a comet the dust is negatively charged.
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No, it doesn't. And where is the signature of this current? Within the DC? 0 nT, remember? Nothing going on in there. So, where was the EDM (lol), Sol? Come on, we were promised this. It is central to your unscientific woo. WHERE WAS IT?
Go read the papers listed above... drongo.
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Wherever they are getting their energy from, it isn't the surface:



From Gombosi et al, again.

You should have taken the time to read the paper, instead of spending a much longer time deciding which parts to cherry-pick.
What’s the problem here?

ELECTRIC COMET all the way.
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I don't believe Whipple was looking at such a detailed picture at that stage. Others would do that later. One thing we can say for certain though, is that Thornhill most definitely didn't predict it. I quote from the cornucopia of crap, the orchestrated litany of lies and obfuscation, that is the 'Electric Comet' pdf file, here:
http://thunderbolts.info/pdf/ElectricComet.pdf

I have done a word search on that piece of fiction, and here are the only relevant references to the word 'dust':



and.................



Kind of strange how there is more dust as the comet gets active, isn't it? Well, no it isn't, unless you believe in Thornhill's woo, which had already been shown to be wrong, twenty years before he wrote that tripe.
So, I'm not sure why Sol wants to keep reminding us of yet another failed prediction of the loon Thornhill. However, he may carry on if he must.
Strange?

Not in the ELECTRIC COMET.

Obviously you are completely clueless on what Uncle Wal said in relation to the dust being machined from the rock that is the nucleus of comets.

So far he’s been a shed load better PREDICTING the goings on at a rocky cometary nucleus discharging to the solar wind!

Which the mainstream are now having to face!

Would you like a cup a cement?
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... dust being machined from the rock that is the nucleus of comets.
Ahh, jeez, how thick do we need to be? Wakey, wakey - there was no frigging rock, woo boy. Eh?
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Maybe it's just me, but I am getting sick of scientifically illiterate woo merchants posting on here. Perhaps we need a c.o.c. such as at is at Cosmoquest. Back it up, or **** off. Yes?
Am I being too harsh? I think not.
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Not in the ELECTRIC COMET.
Jesus. There is no such thing as the 'electric comet'. Unless one has an IQ below double figures. Correct? Yes, would be the answer to that.
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Would you like your cup of cement now, jd116??
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OK, people. I've thought about this for a long while. I've tried not to be biased. The question I was considering was: - how thick would one need to be to believe electric universe woo?
My answer? Unbelievably thick. One would have needed to miss a shed load of high school. And not have much going on to start with (eh, Sol?). You would need to be ignorant of all sorts of laws of physics, and why they cannot be broken. As in the idiot Thornhill. Perhaps these loons can prove us wrong, and actually do some science. Lol.
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Would you like your cup of cement now, jd116??
Sorry? You are the one with zero evidence for their impossible woo; how about spelling it out? EDM (lol)? Glow discharges? I could keep going, but I'm going to wet myself if I do. Come on, EU jerks, let's hear it. Preferably from someone who understands science. That excludes Sol88, by the way. And Thornhill. And Talbott. Anybody left? Other than the loon Scott?
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RPC-LAPElectric Field Signatures at the Diamagnetic Cavity of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko Birgitte Madsen
16 April 2018: A double layer lie about a Birgitte Madsen paper
The paper says there is charge separation because ions travel deeper than elections into a boundary layer.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie, irrelevant MHD delusions.

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Close to a comet the dust is negatively charged.
16 April 2018: A "Close to a comet the dust is negatively charged" lie.

An investigation into potential causes of the anomalistic feature observed by the Rosetta Alice spectrograph around 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko
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The Alice far-ultraviolet spectrograph in operation around the comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko on the Rosetta spacecraft experiences an anomalistic feature (AF) that is ubiquitous at comet separations less than 450 km. This feature is highly temporally variable and displays no relation to any studied parameters with the exception of comet separation. This paper tests several possible causes with simulations and finds that positive ions produce a partial explanation for the anomaly, but still finds no definitive source of the AF
My emphasis added.

Negatively charged nano-grains at 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko by Gombosi et. al. points out that negatively charged grains would be preferably detected by the RPC/IES instrument.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock, a "falsified Whipple’s model" lie, irrelevant MHD delusions.

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Thumbs down The insanity of Wal Thornhill's documented lies of confirmed comet precisions

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Strange?
16 April 2018: The insanity of Wal Thornhill's documented for almost 8 years and obvious lies of confirmed comet predictions.

Insanity because after almost 8 years Sol88 still cannot understand simple English. A prediction of a Deep Impact flash before impact is not confirmed by no flash before impact !

A few of Thornhill's lies, fantasies and delusions.
18 November 2010: The lies, failures and successes of Thunderbolts Deep Impact predictions by Wal Thornhill
2 December 2014: Sol88 does not notice that Wal Thornhill narrates an ignorant and deluded video about 67P!
18 December 2014: The bad science and delusions in Newton’s Electric Clockwork Solar System by Wal Thornhill.
5 January 2015: Wal Thornhill makes up fantasies about comets

10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc.13 April 2018: A couple of the delusions in Scott's Birkeland current paper.

The electric comet delusion has at least 45 years without a scientific electric comet model or observations to support it !

Getting lose to 3 years of the fear of doing basic physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.

Sol88's comet delusions include comets are rocks; these rocks were blasted from the Earth including recently; blasting was by electrical discharges between Earth and Venus; an imaginary solar electric field charges up comets; the charge causes never detected electrical discharges; comet jets are electrical discharges; images show that comets are rocks; Birkeland currents in comets and their tails with no appropriate magnetic field; papers using bedrock to describe layers of ices support his comet are rock delusion, imaginary double layers do magic; many years of lying that ices have not been detected on comets, a "hard shell of refractory material on the outside" lie, insanity of consolidated ices and dust in papers being rock.

826 items of ignorance, idiocy (citing irrelevant mainstream papers), delusion and lies dating from 29 August 2016 to 13 April 2018 (maybe hundreds more in the last 8 years!)

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Old 15th April 2018, 06:17 PM   #2188
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
Would you like your cup of cement now, jd116??
How do you like "drinking the Kool-Aid" by citing an obvious and documented liar?
16 April 2018: The insanity of Wal Thornhill's documented for almost 8 years and obvious lies of confirmed comet predictions.
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Old 15th April 2018, 07:54 PM   #2189
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
OK, people. I've thought about this for a long while. I've tried not to be biased. The question I was considering was: - how thick would one need to be to believe electric universe woo?
My answer? Unbelievably thick. One would have needed to miss a shed load of high school. And not have much going on to start with (eh, Sol?). You would need to be ignorant of all sorts of laws of physics, and why they cannot be broken. As in the idiot Thornhill. Perhaps these loons can prove us wrong, and actually do some science. Lol.
Looks like slightly less thicker than some who believes comets are icy objects with a smattering of dust sublimating in the warmth of the sun!

Rosetta has thrown a spanner in that simpleton model!

Got the cup of cement ready for you jd116!
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Old 15th April 2018, 07:56 PM   #2190
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
Maybe it's just me, but I am getting sick of scientifically illiterate woo merchants posting on here. Perhaps we need a c.o.c. such as at is at Cosmoquest. Back it up, or **** off. Yes?
Am I being too harsh? I think not.
Ah yes Cosmoquest, I remember the days.

Crapy forum that was...where is me ‘ol mate Nereid I wonder?
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Old 15th April 2018, 08:10 PM   #2191
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Just going stick around long enough to see what Whipple’s model morphs into!
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Old 15th April 2018, 08:25 PM   #2192
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
Looks like slightly less thicker than some who believes comets are icy objects with a smattering of dust sublimating in the warmth of the sun!

Rosetta has thrown a spanner in that simpleton model!

Got the cup of cement ready for you jd116!
Hey Sol, how hard is ice? As in, a number. Pick whichever scale you want to use.
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Old 15th April 2018, 09:22 PM   #2193
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^^^
As hard as rock apparently at 67P!

The MUPUS team ballsed that one up, ay.

Why not build the probe to penetrate the “ice” know before hand to as hard as rock?
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Old 15th April 2018, 10:27 PM   #2194
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@Ziggurat

What ice to dust ratio did they use in the experiments they had done before sending Rosetta on it’s way?
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What ice to dust ratio did they use in the experiments they had done before sending Rosetta on it’s way?
That's not an answer.
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Old 15th April 2018, 11:26 PM   #2196
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Sorry, about 6 on the Mohs scale at -70c
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Old 15th April 2018, 11:29 PM   #2197
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Now you tell me, ‘ol mate, why would the penetrator RECOIL off of the “ice” they found at 67P and not in the experiments they did to calibrate MUPUS-PEN before sending it on its PRIMARY mission?

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SAFIRE - Electric Sun test?

Electric Currents in Outer Space Run the Show

The universe is composed of what percentage plasma again?
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So lurakk sisser, you can get dragged kicking and screaming into the new paradigm or die out with the rest of the Big Bang, dark matter, dark energy, magnetic reconnection, pulsars, black holes, neutron stars, etc etc...era.

Or go read the book!

This is the first time in all the years of been following the EU that mainstream has come out with the admission
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A new book explores our understanding of electric currents, which are fundamental to the structure and dynamics of space plasmas.
PLASMA the fundamental state of matter.

Solid, liquids and gasses are special states of matter.
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
OK, people. I've thought about this for a long while. I've tried not to be biased. The question I was considering was: - how thick would one need to be to believe electric universe woo?
My answer? Unbelievably thick. One would have needed to miss a shed load of high school. And not have much going on to start with (eh, Sol?). You would need to be ignorant of all sorts of laws of physics, and why they cannot be broken. As in the idiot Thornhill. Perhaps these loons can prove us wrong, and actually do some science. Lol.
OT, but only slightly: visited EU central lately? It seems most of the pretense has gone ... EU is just a whisker away from declaring that it's openly anti-science (not just “alternative” science).

Maybe time to consider moving this thread to a more suitable forum?
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