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Old 5th March 2018, 02:43 PM   #1
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Deja vu: Convicted "spy" poisoned in UK

BBC News: Critically ill man is former Russian spy

"A man who is critically ill after being exposed to an unknown substance in Wiltshire is a Russian national convicted of spying for Britain, the BBC understands.

Sergei Skripal, 66, was granted refuge in the UK following a "spy swap" between the US and Russia in 2010.

He and a woman, 33, were found unconscious on a bench at a shopping centre in Salisbury on Sunday afternoon."
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Old 5th March 2018, 02:58 PM   #2
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He AND a woman? Murder/suicide anyone?

Perhaps living in the Golden West wasn't so golden?
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Old 5th March 2018, 03:10 PM   #3
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That's almost as brutal as Putin treats journalists.
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Old 5th March 2018, 03:16 PM   #4
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He AND a woman? Murder/suicide anyone?

Perhaps living in the Golden West wasn't so golden?
poisoning oneself and another isn't a in the middle of a shopping centre thing.
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Old 5th March 2018, 03:18 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ginjawarrior View Post
poisoning oneself and another isn't a in the middle of a shopping centre thing.
Quite. It was the car park, not the lingerie section of M&S (where waiting male partners often contemplate suicide).
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Wiltshire, YUUUGE alien presence (mostly drinking pints at the crop circle pub)

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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
He AND a woman? Murder/suicide anyone?
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Not likely on a bench in a shopping center.
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Old 5th March 2018, 03:25 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
Quite. It was the car park, not the lingerie section of M&S (where waiting male partners often contemplate suicide).


Sorry, probably too soon.

They have benches in car parks? The pics look like a bench outside a strip mall.
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Hospital where he was treated has been partially evacuated while it is decontaminated.
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Old 5th March 2018, 04:42 PM   #10
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In 2006, Putin formally approved the FSB, internal state security, to conduct operations overseas to dispatch enemies of the state, if you like.
That's the year FSB veteran Sasha Litvinenko was killed abroad, not to mention the dozens back home.

But clearly the Russian secret services had already been doing such activities before that, usually to silence agents or officers who were involved in illegal business.

Don't expect RT to report on that though.

Though we can't jump to conclusions here there is precedent.
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Old 5th March 2018, 04:44 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by autumn1971 View Post
That's almost as brutal as Putin treats journalists.
Even more brutal and insidious.
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Old 5th March 2018, 04:58 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
Quite. It was the car park, not the lingerie section of M&S (where waiting male partners often contemplate suicide).
If you have a girl trying on lingerie, suicide should be the last thing on your mind.
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
That's the year FSB veteran Sasha Litvinenko was killed abroad, not to mention the dozens back home.

It seems this name-saking to fraudulent hero Alexandr is abused by Ukrops, the lowest of surviving Nazis, but apparently if you aren't an idiot in addition to an ideologue, It's kind of backfiring.
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Old 5th March 2018, 05:17 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
It seems this name-saking to fraudulent hero Alexandr is abused by Ukrops, the lowest of surviving Nazis, but apparently if you aren't an idiot in addition to an ideologue, It's kind of backfiring.
"Vladimir Litvinenko"??
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Originally Posted by ginjawarrior View Post
"Vladimir Litvinenko"??

Exactly.
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what has Vladimir Litvinenko got to do with the price of fish?
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Originally Posted by ginjawarrior View Post
what has Vladimir Litvinenko got to do with the price of fish?

What do you have to do with Ukrainian "Intelligence"?
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What do you have to do with Ukrainian "Intelligence"?
probably exactly as much as Vladimir litvinenko seems to have to do with this thread..
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Alexander Litvinenko came to mind and maybe russia is at it again.
**** knows which Litvinenko you people are talking about.
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Old 5th March 2018, 09:26 PM   #20
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CE, Litvinenko was a whistleblower, hero or not. Calling him a fraud is simply misdirection, deflection. He was given orders to kill, which he didn't carry out, but exposed his bosses, then Putin. And afterwards convincingly exposed his inhuman crime of 1999.

But you probably already know all that and are just trolling/shilling at this point.

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Litvinenko, Alexandr was Boris Berezovski's driver, bodyguard and tool, as we all know.
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Old 5th March 2018, 10:36 PM   #22
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Litvinenko, Alexandr was Boris Berezovski's driver, bodyguard and tool, as we all know.
Wow, just, wow ...
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Wow, just, wow ...
Sometimes I think she's parodying the Kremlin lines. Sadly probably not.
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I wonder if they're already dead and the "critically ill" part is intended to help flush out the attackers.
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Old 6th March 2018, 01:58 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
They have benches in car parks? The pics look like a bench outside a strip mall.
I stand corrected. I somehow got the impression that it was in the shopping centre car park outside, but looking on Google earth the car park is a multi-storey. We wouldn't call it a "mall," though - far too small. It's not unusual to find benches around the edge of open ground-level car parks next to whatever retail building it is, though.
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Originally Posted by Senex View Post
If you have a girl trying on lingerie, suicide should be the last thing on your mind.
Only a small subset amongst a sea of male despair.
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Wow, just, wow ...

I think it's very weird that Berezovski's suicide isn't blamed on Putin by the usual suspects who blame him for everything else. It's almost as if they don't want any attention on this "character" (usually the scare quotes should be on suicide, shouldn't they?).

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Interesting that Putin has his own fans just like Trump. In certain fans eyes neither can do no wrong, evar.
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Interesting that Putin has his own fans just like Trump. In certain fans eyes neither can do no wrong, evar.

Yeah, I know this from having my own fans. You should try it some time. Feels funny.
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The woman found along with Skripal was his 33-year-old daughter.

Russian officials are saying they have 'no information' on what might have caused them to collapse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43297638
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Putin as a former KGB man, a bit like Stalin. The Russian secret police have a reputation in the past for bumping off opposition people, and those who provide useful and pointed criticism, or attempt to fight corruption. It's shock horror reporting. The CIA in America is much the same. I still think Putin provides more sane government than that drunk Yeltsin, and he doesn't want to interfere with international trade, like Britain and America. For some unknown reason British and American women seem to be vehemently opposed to Putin. It must be something to do with the female brain operating in straight lines. Russia always was an autocracy.
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Putin as a former KGB man, a bit like Stalin. The Russian secret police have a reputation in the past for bumping off opposition people, and those who provide useful and pointed criticism, or attempt to fight corruption. It's shock horror reporting. The CIA in America is much the same. I still think Putin provides more sane government than that drunk Yeltsin, and he doesn't want to interfere with international trade, like Britain and America. For some unknown reason British and American women seem to be vehemently opposed to Putin. It must be something to do with the female brain operating in straight lines. Russia always was an autocracy.
Funnily enough, I think most people, male and female, are opposed to Putin because he is a murdering megalomaniac.
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Funny that when spies bump each other off in real life there is such a fuss but according to popular fiction they do it all the time and it's something we assume is happening anyway.
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The woman found along with Skripal was his 33-year-old daughter.

Russian officials are saying they have 'no information' on what might have caused them to collapse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43297638
Being his daughter is enlightening. It means poisoning is more likely than poisoning him and his date. Though it still leaves murder/suicide open. But maybe the daughter being the murderer, since poison is often the weapon of choice for women. as well as spies? .
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Funnily enough, I think most people, male and female, are opposed to Putin because he is a murdering megalomaniac.
And because shrugging at a dictatorship has never made anybody's life better.
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Why do so many of these things happen in the UK?

Probably the 7th killing, or attempted killing, in 40 years (at least).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nked-uk-deaths
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I think it's very weird that Berezovski's suicide isn't blamed on Putin by the usual suspects who blame him for everything else. It's almost as if they don't want any attention on this "character" (usually the scare quotes should be on suicide, shouldn't they?).
Because there was no evidence of foul play at the Berezovski scene and he was probably depressed.
Berezovski was a shady character who recommended Putin to the Yeltsin entourage, getting rich off of the backs of the people, and he shouldn't be put on a pedestal, but he was a valuable source of intelligence for a time when he lived in Britain. He had a conscience, unlike the stooges of the current regime who repeatedly deny they did the very same and worse.
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The CIA in America is much the same.
The same in what way.

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I still think Putin provides more sane government than that drunk Yeltsin
Sure, not that high of a bar though. He is constantly pushing the narrative that anything his regime does is comparable to stuff done by Western govts, while concealing or muddying up the very worst of his crimes. Like the apartment bombings, when when confronted about it in the early 2000s, they tried to create a laughably weak analogy with 9/11, while years later they invited die-hard Truthers on RT.
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In 2006, Putin formally approved the FSB, internal state security, to conduct operations overseas to dispatch enemies of the state, if you like.


It sure seems that way:


From Russia With Blood: 14 Suspected Hits On British Soil That The Government Ignored



It seems the latest one (that we're discussing here) may be the last straw. Apparently up until now the UK was taking a don't piss off Russia stance.
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The Daily Heil (sorry, it was in our break room at work) is claiming 12 deaths on British soil due to the Russians.
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