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Old 18th April 2018, 03:14 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Japanese PM is giving all the credit to the great President Donald J Trump

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ng-conviction/

This is certainly going to trigger the left.....
Oh yeah! Those vagina-hat-wearing truth-and-kindess-monopoly-holder liberals are gonna be more pissed than Trump in Russia...

Donald Trump, the president the USA deserves!
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Old 18th April 2018, 03:38 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Japanese PM is giving all the credit to the great President Donald J Trump

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ng-conviction/

This is certainly going to trigger the left.....
Abe is hoping Trump will take the Japanese import tarrifs off.
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Old 18th April 2018, 06:35 AM   #243
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And whatever foreign relations he harms in this process will likely be one you also don't find valuable.
Is this you not for the war officially ending? Why not be a teensy bit more specific.
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Old 18th April 2018, 06:36 AM   #244
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Oh yeah! Those vagina-hat-wearing truth-and-kindess-monopoly-holder liberals are gonna be more pissed than Trump in Russia...

Donald Trump, the president the USA deserves!
Some left wing, yes left wing, outlets are saying he could earn a Pulitzer!

Trigger the left....
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Old 18th April 2018, 06:40 AM   #245
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Is this you not for the war officially ending? Why not be a teensy bit more specific.
I could see a case where he removed troops from South Korea as part of the agreement, much to the chagrin of South Korea. But I'm confident that if that occurred, you wouldn't be opposed to it because you wouldn't find that relation and arrangement worth it.

ETA: What I think about war isn't the issue. This is about the response of East Asian leaders. I think they correctly see Trump as willing to negotiate away strategic relationships in East Asia where other presidents would not.

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Old 18th April 2018, 06:47 AM   #246
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I could see a case where he removed troops from South Korea as part of the agreement, much to the chagrin of South Korea. But I'm confident that if that occurred, you wouldn't be opposed to it because you wouldn't find that relation and arrangement worth it.
Like we removed troops from Germany? There isnít any reason to remove them. Once weíre in weíre staying.
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Old 18th April 2018, 06:51 AM   #247
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Like we removed troops from Germany? There isnít any reason to remove them. Once weíre in weíre staying.
The reason is because North Korea's primary aim is maintaining their regime. Trump doesn't seem to have any particular interest in the peninsula other than WMD. Removing troops in exchange for weapons could be an expedient way to achieve that.
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Old 18th April 2018, 07:01 AM   #248
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Like we removed troops from Germany? There isnít any reason to remove them. Once weíre in weíre staying.
Germany is not the USA. Do you want to steal land from others with might?

I know that the USA is God's own land, but that only works for those Americans, who believe in that. For the rest of us that is just funny.
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Some left wing, yes left wing, outlets are saying he could earn a Pulitzer!
For what? Writing the book The Art of the Getting There and Staying?
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Old 18th April 2018, 08:01 AM   #250
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Sure, because moving the embassy is a brilliant move. Next step, peace. Because after all, that issue is now settled. All of Jerusalem belongs to Israel. Done deal!
Why the sarcasm? plague311 fantasized about Trump triggering a Korean rapprochment. I'm just saying, if we're going along with that fantasy, then why not continue the fantasy into his second term, and imagine he'll trigger peace in other conflicted regions of the globe?

I notice you let plague311's part of the fantasy pass without comment. Why did you single me out? Were you reading the thread out of order?
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Old 18th April 2018, 08:12 AM   #251
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Kim strikes me as being like Koba from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. He'll be all smiles and act a little silly so The PDJT's entourage put their guard down, then it's bullet time.

One thing about native Koreans, they know how to hold a grudge.
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Old 18th April 2018, 08:13 AM   #252
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Why the sarcasm? plague311 fantasized about Trump triggering a Korean rapprochment. I'm just saying, if we're going along with that fantasy, then why not continue the fantasy into his second term, and imagine he'll trigger peace in other conflicted regions of the globe?

I notice you let plague311's part of the fantasy pass without comment. Why did you single me out? Were you reading the thread out of order?
Probably did read it out of order. For some reason, Tapatalk is taking me to the first post of the last page rather than the first unread post. It's very annoying.
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Kim Jong-Il will wind up getting 30 billions a year in zero interest loans, aid and technology transfers from South Korea, which is what he needs to have his subjects happy and his throne secure.

By 2030 the South Koreans will realize they have been duped and North Korea will be a prosperous absolute kingdom.
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Old 18th April 2018, 09:16 AM   #254
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The reason is because North Korea's primary aim is maintaining their regime. Trump doesn't seem to have any particular interest in the peninsula other than WMD. Removing troops in exchange for weapons could be an expedient way to achieve that.
Could be, Kim may also be willing to be paid off and live out his life in luxury.
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Germany is not the USA. Do you want to steal land from others with might?

I know that the USA is God's own land, but that only works for those Americans, who believe in that. For the rest of us that is just funny.
I have no idea what youíre getting at?
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Old 18th April 2018, 09:19 AM   #256
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For what? Writing the book The Art of the Getting There and Staying?
For ending the war in Korea? Getting rid of Kim’s nukes?

Ending the demilitarised zone?

Saving the NK people?

Making America Great Again?

The list is going to be endless!
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Could be, Kim may also be willing to be paid off and live out his life in luxury.
But do you agree that if it was the troops deal to fulfill Kim's wishes,do you agree that Trump would support it and you would support it also?
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But do you agree that if it was the troops deal to fulfill Kim's wishes,do you agree that Trump would support it and you would support it also?
No. That would be a bad trade. The troops were there before the nukes, and the troops are there for reasons other than nukes. Troop removal should be contingent on a deal that removes the reason the troops were put there to begin with.

Nuke removal should be reciprocated by removal of things added in response to the nukes, not by removal of things that are actually necessary even without the nukes.
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No. That would be a bad trade. The troops were there before the nukes, and the troops are there for reasons other than nukes. Troop removal should be contingent on a deal that removes the reason the troops were put there to begin with.

Nuke removal should be reciprocated by removal of things added in response to the nukes, not by removal of things that are actually necessary even without the nukes.
But do you think Trump cares about that?

As for if "you" care about it, that was an explicit logger and logger-level supporters of trump.
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For ending the war in Korea? Getting rid of Kimís nukes?

Ending the demilitarised zone?

Saving the NK people?

Making America Great Again?

The list is going to be endless!
Do you really know what a Pulitzer prize is?
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But do you think Trump cares about that?

As for if "you" care about it, that was an explicit logger and logger-level supporters of trump.
As long as Trump doesn't make things demonstrably worse (i.e. costs US lives), his supporters will call it the greatest diplomatic achievement of all times.
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Do you really know what a Pulitzer prize is?
*shakes magic 8 ball*

Signs point to No...
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Some left wing, yes left wing, outlets are saying he could earn a Pulitzer!

Trigger the left....
Tweety is a journalist now?
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Do you really know what a Pulitzer prize is?
Lol

Had the other liberal prize on the brain.
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But do you agree that if it was the troops deal to fulfill Kim's wishes,do you agree that Trump would support it and you would support it also?
Whatís reasonable is less troops, yes I could support that.
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Whatís reasonable is less troops, yes I could support that.
Which is why I said Trump would be willing to trade away those. I don't know what you disagree with.
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Which is why I said Trump would be willing to trade away those. I don't know what you disagree with.
You donít think thatís reasonable? Weíve literally done that everywhere.

Youíre also wrongly assuming the SKís would be against it.
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You donít think thatís reasonable? Weíve literally done that everywhere.

Youíre also wrongly assuming the SKís would be against it.
Our sub conversation hasn't been at all about what I think is reasonable. This is about viewing the praise countries like Japan giving Trump as an act of realpolitik. And why what you called "triggered" is actually thinking about how Trump responds to flattery.
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Our sub conversation hasn't been at all about what I think is reasonable. This is about viewing the praise countries like Japan giving Trump as an act of realpolitik. And why what you called "triggered" is actually thinking about how Trump responds to flattery.
Well thatís interesting, irrelevant but interesting.
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lThe kind of blind worship logger has for Trump is simply dangerous to democracy. A democracy has no place for Dear Leader who is above criticism.
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Well thatís interesting, irrelevant but interesting.
You brought up Japan's statement. Why they made that statement is completely relevant.
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lThe kind of blind worship logger has for Trump is simply dangerous to democracy. A democracy has no place for Dear Leader who is above criticism.
So is the blind hatred.

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You brought up Japan's statement. Why they made that statement is completely relevant.
But the extreme spin youíre putting on it isnít.

Itís a huge accomplishment that no one else could get done.
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But the extreme spin youíre putting on it isnít.

Itís a huge accomplishment that no one else could get done.
Extreme spin? You agreed that reducing troops from the region is on the table (probably something that helps feed your notion that no one else can get it done). Pointing out that those nations may be making moves to not have that happen isn't extreme spin.
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Extreme spin? You agreed that reducing troops from the region is on the table (probably something that helps feed your notion that no one else can get it done). Pointing out that those nations may be making moves to not have that happen isn't extreme spin.
Iím sure they already know it isnít happening, since weíve never done it. Weíve lessened our troop levels, that of course is reasonable.
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So isnít the blind hatred.
But to the Trump Cultist,any criticism of Trump amounts to blind hatred.
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Iím sure they already know it isnít happening, since weíve never done it. Weíve lessened our troop levels, that of course is reasonable.
I think you have a contradiction here. I said "reduce troop levels." You said we have never done it and then said we have done it.
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I think you have a contradiction here. I said "reduce troop levels." You said we have never done it and then said we have done it.
You said ďremove troopsĒ if you meant reduced troop levels, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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But to the Trump Cultist,any criticism of Trump amounts to blind hatred.
That just isnít reality looking at criticisms of past presidents.
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Kim strikes me as being like Koba from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. He'll be all smiles and act a little silly so The PDJT's entourage put their guard down, then it's bullet time.

One thing about native Koreans, they know how to hold a grudge.
I see Kim more like Korben Dallas from The Fifth Element. Sending someone in to negotiate -


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