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Old 23rd March 2018, 04:34 PM   #321
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
If you don’t understand Putin being a bad actor and how to interact with him as a major super power, I can’t help you. It’s the same with China and Xi, another bad actor. Do you even understand the difference between Russia and Iran?
You can help me by answering my questions.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 04:38 PM   #322
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
That's like saying that "potato" is the answer to "how are you doing?"

Your post has nothing to do with the question. It's an answer to a completely different question. If you believe that your post answers the question as phrased, you need to seriously rethink how you see the world, because not every question has an answer that relates to your view of the political world.

Here it is again:
The leftist alternative always involves weakness and appeasement.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 04:39 PM   #323
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
The leftist alternative always involves weakness and appeasement.
That is an answer to a completely different question.

You're aware of this, right?
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Old 23rd March 2018, 04:48 PM   #324
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Is there any evidence of a bribe?

As to second part, I was just waiting for someone to make that type of comment so I can quote it in my signature.
Please do.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 04:50 PM   #325
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
My 6 years in the 29th Light Infantry VaARNG is hardly serving ?

Well, it used to be weekend playing at soldiers.

More recently the NG have been put in to more active service but back in the day ...
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:11 PM   #326
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
The link was specifically about intellectual property thefts.
It is a typical trump response. Blame everyone else.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:12 PM   #327
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Well, it used to be weekend playing at soldiers.

More recently the NG have been put in to more active service but back in the day ...
Your claim is simply an uninformed generalization.

You ought to re-think what service to the country means.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:18 PM   #328
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
I'm pretty sure Bolton was never NSA under Bush, and you're forgetting Don Rumsfeld. He's still a very dangerous idiot.

ETA: Condoleeza Rice was Bush's NSA for his whole first term.
Yes, I corrected myself in a following post, but regardless of his position, I consider him and Cheney to be the chief architects of the illegal and stupid Bush Doctrine.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:21 PM   #329
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Maureen Dowd's problem is she loves to be a contrarian at times;she sort of loves to upset her heavily liberal readership with crap like that.
I have come to hate contrarians. To be a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian will lead you ,very quickly, to say or do stupid things.
It was the Congressman himself who said Brennam could not be trusted because he said one thing and now was saying something else. I missed what the something was but it seemed to be something quite trivial.

The hypocrisy was shrieking so loudly it was stunning.


Not sure how you are tying Dowd in here?
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:25 PM   #330
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump bribed a doctor to get him an exemption.

Where did bolton serve?

Signing up to the National Guard is hardly serving.
Prior to the Iraq war anyway. Not right to be dissing the Guard-persons serving multiple deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq since Bush needed military and couldn't restart the draft.

But when Bolton and GW for that matter were of draft age, the National Guard was a way to get out of serving in Vietnam.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:33 PM   #331
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
Nope, the reality is there was no credible evidence that Iraq had restarted its nuclear program or was developing any chemical or biological WMDs, but the neocons simply ignored the gaps, disclaimers, caveats, and conflicting analyses in the raw intel and spun what was left as a certainty.

The Lies that Led to the Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’
Fail to learn from history, doomed to repeat it.

There is still a large faction of alt-rightwingers who continue to believe there were WMDs in Iraq, we just didn't find them. And POTUSes don't lie.
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
Your claim is simply an uninformed generalization.

You ought to re-think what service to the country means.
Playing weekend soldiers?
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:42 PM   #333
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Playing weekend soldiers?
Now now boys. Back in the day the NG faced up to angry crowds of unarmed college kids.

These days they've been conned into multiple duty tours in active war zones, it was in the fine print.

However I'll defer to TheL8Elvis if served in combat in the 60s - 70s, with my apologies.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 05:47 PM   #334
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National Guard are being misused just like the Territorials are being misused in the UK to cover up for under funding and manpower shortages.

I have nothing against the NG or those that joining.

I do dislike the idea that joining and of the armed forces is somehow 'Serving' the country above and beyond other citizens though.

It's starting to infect the UK as well now.

I hate it.

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About Trump wanting Congress to give him a line-item veto on spending bills. In 1998, the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional meaning it would take a Constitutional Amendment to enact a presidential Line Item Veto again. or a very compliant Supreme Court to change their minds. There's nothing Congress can do for him.
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Ok so to take the heat off Bob for a bit, shouldn’t words of warning go out about being logged?

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Ok so to take the heat off Bob for a bit, shouldn’t words of warning go out about being logged?
One is more insidious than the other.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 07:18 PM   #338
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Please do.
Clearly a joke. I haven't even bothered to have a little picture on the side.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 08:00 PM   #339
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We’ve got no evidence of Russian collusion.
Wrong. Completely wrong. We have public evidence of collusion and there may be more still not released. What you could say if you wanted to be honest is that so far it is not clear from the public evidence that that evidence allows the DOJ to reach a sufficiently strong conclusion to take criminal charges to court.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
About Trump wanting Congress to give him a line-item veto on spending bills. In 1998, the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional meaning it would take a Constitutional Amendment to enact a presidential Line Item Veto again. or a very compliant Supreme Court to change their minds. There's nothing Congress can do for him.
Between that and his absurd complaint about the filibuster. The Senate wasn't the problem, it was House Republicans and DACA wouldn't be an issue except Trump ended it.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 08:13 PM   #341
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What’s fun is watching the left not even realize what’s coming.
In that case why don't you tell us clueless schmucks what's coming?
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Trump was not eligible.

John Bolton served.
Bolton served in the National Guard. Why, you ask:
Quote:
"I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision [to join the National Guard] in his Yale 25th reunion book.
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That is usually the leftist alternative, weakness and appeasement.
So you are going to sign up to fight in the great war like any good patriot would do?

I mean, anything less would be a sign of weakness, right?

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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Weakness isn’t a better alternative.
Diplomacy is not weakness.
....
Well, ok, that doesn't apply to authoritarians like Trump and the neocons.
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
The leftist alternative always involves weakness and appeasement.
So I suppose you are a military professional? Out there on the battlefield proving how strong you are?

Or what?
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A question just occurred to me with all these high-priced sharks stirring the waters: On whose dime? The taxpayers or Trump himself?
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Yes, I corrected myself in a following post, but regardless of his position, I consider[Rumsfeld] and Cheney to be the chief architects of the illegal and stupid Bush Doctrine.
Quite. The Rumsfeld Doctrine of warfare was not his creation, but he attached himself so closely to it that his name became the brand. Basically blitzkreig, the flat lands of Mesopotamia were absolutely appropriate to it, just as Afghanistan was absolutely not. As a result the Afghanistan job was left half-done in favour of a demonstration of the Rumsfeld Doctrine on chosen ground.

Cheney and the oilocracy he was part of simply saw enormous benefits for themselves in the shotgun privatisation of the Iraqi oil industry, so he was all for it.
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... Iran's also quite a mess, partly because of the religious nuts in power, but also in part because the promised prosperity that would come with the nuclear agreement is unseen.
And also partly due to the mess left by the 1953 coup d'état that the USA played a major role in ... a lesson Bolton is determined to not learn.
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Trump wants "reciprocal" in his trade tariffs. I don't think he knows the noun form, reciprocity.
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There is still a large faction of alt-rightwingers who continue to believe there were WMDs in Iraq, we just didn't find them.
Turn over a few stones and you'll find there are people out there who still believe McCarthy was right and the Eisenhower State Department was largely staffed by Communists, while the rest were fellow-travellers.
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Trump wants "reciprocal" in his trade tariffs. I don't think he knows the noun form, reciprocity.
Did he type that or say that? (If he just said it, it's slightly less terrible.)
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The leftist alternative always involves weakness and appeasement.
Tell me more about these voices. Do they whisper? Shout?
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Tell me more about these voices. Do they whisper? Shout?
What I'd like to know is if Logger is in the armed forces.

Or if he's just another airmchair quarterback?

It's easy being "brave" when you are eating chips on your couch.
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Ewige Blumenkraft!

... und ewige Schlangenkraft.
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Did he type that or say that? (If he just said it, it's slightly less terrible.)
He said it twice. The first sentence was almost grammatically passable, but the second sentence definitely needed a noun and I'm almost certain he didn't know the word form for a noun.
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A question just occurred to me with all these high-priced sharks stirring the waters: On whose dime? The taxpayers or Trump himself?
Trump’s personal lawyers were being paid for by the RNC and the Trump campaign. He’s been footing the bill himself since late last year.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/17/p...lls/index.html

The part about Trump setting up a fund to help pay fees for White House staff seems troubling and was criticized because it has the potential to influence testimony. I don’t know the status of that fund right now.

ETA: Seems that the fund is up and running.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-russia-probes
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What I'd like to know is if Logger is in the armed forces.

Or if he's just another airmchair quarterback?

It's easy being "brave" when you are eating chips on your couch.
If I had to take a guess, assuming he's a real person rather than someone on a wind-up, then I'd lean towards him being a logger.
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So I suppose you are a military professional? Out there on the battlefield proving how strong you are?

Or what?
If trees ever try to impose Sharia Law on the US, you'll all be pleased for people like Logger.
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Did anyone notice his bottle of Trump brand water next to him? Do you think that is being paid for by the WH?
He's getting paid for the water.
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