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Old 11th April 2018, 07:47 AM   #1
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Paul Ryan to quit in January 2019

Afraid of what the house is going to look like after the mid-terms, perhaps?

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Old 11th April 2018, 07:57 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
Afraid of what the house is going to look like after the mid-terms, perhaps?

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Old 11th April 2018, 08:06 AM   #3
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No wonder: with Cohen as the RNC deputy finance chair, Ryan is quite probably in direct legal trouble himself.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...finance-chairs

http://fortune.com/2018/04/10/the-mi...nal-committee/

not only is the GOP not the party of national fiscal responsibility, it also lets itself get bribed by Russia.
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Misleading title
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
Misleading title
Misleading post.

What's wrong with the title?
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Old 11th April 2018, 08:17 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
Misleading post.

What's wrong with the title?
he won't seek re-election.
not the same as quitting.
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But but who will we look to to punish the poor and enable our disgusting president in the Speaker's role now? Who will show us the power of the magic asterisk? Who's gonna carry those weights?

No no, the ones from that photo shoot. You know the one.

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he won't seek re-election.
not the same as quitting.
Ehh, that's really splitting hairs at most. He was all for reelection until not too long ago.

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Old 11th April 2018, 08:40 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
he won't seek re-election.
not the same as quitting.
He's going to spend more time with his family. That's basically a euphemism for quitting.

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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
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he won't seek re-election.
not the same as quitting.
Ehh, that's really splitting hairs at most. He was all for reelection until not too long ago.
Plus, incumbents tend to get reelected in congress on a pretty regular basis, and he had a pretty substantial margin of victory over his Democratic rival in the last election, so he probably would have won again in the next midterm.
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...rep-paul-ryan/

Paul Ryan in 2017: Not going anywhere

Paul Ryan tells "Good Morning America" that he has no plans to retire despite rumors that he will leave the House in 2018.
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I'm sure there must be a few Republicans who believe they have sold their soul with their backing of Trump. I wonder if Ryan is one of them.
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...rep-paul-ryan/

Paul Ryan in 2017: Not going anywhere

Paul Ryan tells "Good Morning America" that he has no plans to retire despite rumors that he will leave the House in 2018.
I literally just heard his voice on the radio saying he isn't seeking re-election mainly because he wants to see his kids more. ETA: oh thats from months ago.
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It's funny this has turned into a thread about the definition of quitting.

He's doing something now. He's made the decision he's no longer going to do that. I'm pretty sure that's quitting. He's not getting fired, so what else would we call it?
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It's funny this has turned into a thread about the definition of quitting.

He's doing something now. He's made the decision he's no longer going to do that. I'm pretty sure that's quitting. He's not getting fired, so what else would we call it?
He's serving out the term for which he was elected for. If he decided to stop doing his job before that, then it would be quitting. I'm all for term limits anyways so, uhh, good on him?
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Originally Posted by lobosrul5 View Post
He's serving out the term for which he was elected for. If he decided to stop doing his job before that, then it would be quitting. I'm all for term limits anyways so, uhh, good on him?
Yes, that is one definition of quitting. It's not the only definition of quitting however. Isn't there a name for that? False dichotomy. I also put in my two weeks when I leave a job, they refer to that as quitting, but I still serve out those two weeks.
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It's funny this has turned into a thread about the definition of quitting.

He's doing something now. He's made the decision he's no longer going to do that. I'm pretty sure that's quitting. He's not getting fired, so what else would we call it?
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Old 11th April 2018, 09:22 AM   #17
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Yes, that is one definition of quitting. It's not the only definition of quitting however. Isn't there a name for that? False dichotomy. I also put in my two weeks when I leave a job, they refer to that as quitting, but I still serve out those two weeks.
It also fits the general definition of "quitting" in that Paul Ryan is going to quit being a Congressman.
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Old 11th April 2018, 09:33 AM   #18
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It also fits the general definition of "quitting" in that Paul Ryan is going to quit being a Congressman.


I wonder why that even needs saying.
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There actually is a difference, as one move would trigger a special election, the other wouldn't.
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There actually is a difference, as one move would trigger a special election, the other wouldn't.
Oh for goodness sake. How about something on Ryan?

"Quitting" doesn't have to be now. You can quit in the future, you know. At the end of my cricket career I retired. I announced it 6 months in advance of the actual date. I didn't quibble with anyone who said "so you're retiring". Paul Ryan is quitting his role as Congressman in January....and the shorthand for that, for anyone who hasn't got their head up their ass, is Ryan is quitting, or, as I put it, "Ryan to quit".
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Oh for goodness sake. How about something on Ryan?

"Quitting" doesn't have to be now. You can quit in the future, you know. At the end of my cricket career I retired. I announced it 6 months in advance of the actual date. I didn't quibble with anyone who said "so you're retiring". Paul Ryan is quitting his role as Congressman in January....and the shorthand for that, for anyone who hasn't got their head up their ass, is Ryan is quitting, or, as I put it, "Ryan to quit".
I noticed you said when you retired and not when you quit. Just like you, he isn't quitting.
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I agree it's a big thing: Ryan quite obviously had planned out his career all the way to President. The fact that he drops after being Speaker is huge deal.
I guess he will bunker down until after Trump is gone, hoping he won't get dragged down.
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Considering that he is changing from his earlier claim that he wasn't going anywhere, quitting is especially relevant. You have to wonder what made him change his mind. His stated reasons (teen kids growing up without him) wasn't actually a surprise.

What's his window for changing his mind I wonder?
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Hmmm, room for another GOP neo-nazi?
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I agree it's a big thing: Ryan quite obviously had planned out his career all the way to President. The fact that he drops after being Speaker is huge deal.
I guess he will bunker down until after Trump is gone, hoping he won't get dragged down.
Perhaps he's got plans to follow in Hillary's footsteps.. Spend time in congress, then get a cabinet post (with all the turmoil in the white house, there will probably be open positions following the next midterms) then run for the presidency.
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Perhaps he's got plans to follow in Hillary's footsteps.. Spend time in congress, then get a cabinet post (with all the turmoil in the white house, there will probably be open positions following the next midterms) then run for the presidency.
You never know. He just may be sick of politics. And given the revolving door, he could easily take a lobbying job that will pay high 6 figures.
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You never know. He just may be sick of politics. And given the revolving door, he could easily take a lobbying job that will pay high 6 figures.
He's also had a pretty tough go of it lately. Both Ryan and McConnel have been getting a hard time. They've completely and entirely earned it, make no mistake. There's no sympathy coming from me, but I wouldn't be shocked if, as you said, he's just sick of being a lapdog.
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Hmmm, room for another GOP neo-nazi?
There's already one running against him!
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I hear McCain will be "quitting" soon....
He is, isn't he? Because of his terminal illness he's going to be quitting his position.
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He is, isn't he? Because of his terminal illness he's going to be quitting his position.
Is losing an election quitting? What if you die in office?

Is the satisfactory completion of every contract and then going somewhere else quitting?
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Of course there is. Stay classy, GOP.
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What's really fun is the guy who is the leading GOP candidate to replace them.

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-nehle...-16e1882f2beb/
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I'm sure there must be a few Republicans who believe they have sold their soul with their backing of Trump. I wonder if Ryan is one of them.
No way.
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There actually is a difference ...
But does anyone really give a quit?

So Ryan's not quitting he's running, for certain values of "quit" and "run". He's still full of it and always has been, in my opinion.

With the Speaker's chair now up for grabs even if the GOP holds the House in November, is this likely to de-stabilise the party in the run-up to the elections?
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What's really fun is the guy who is the leading GOP candidate to replace them.

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-nehle...-16e1882f2beb/
He's a peach, isn't he?
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You never know. He just may be sick of politics. And given the revolving door, he could easily take a lobbying job that will pay high 6 figures.
And maybe he is tired of carrying the water for somebody who behing closed doors he really despises.
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Mod WarningDerail about the semantics of the thread title moved to AAH.
Please concentrate on the topic, which is clear enough in context, and cease quibbling about the title and calling out other members.

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What's really fun is the guy who is the leading GOP candidate to replace them.

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-nehle...-16e1882f2beb/
Nah, that's basically what I would expect..
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Paul Ryan in 2017: Not going anywhere

Paul Ryan tells "Good Morning America" that he has no plans to retire despite rumors that he will leave the House in 2018.
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Hmmm, room for another GOP neo-nazi?
Yes,

"The main GOP candidate to date is Paul Nehlen, who has drawn widespread criticism over anti-Semitic and racist remarks and social media posts."

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...lle/506737002/
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