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Old 14th February 2018, 01:31 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
Even the Mexican part of my DNA is OK with kicking out the Dreamers. The Native American part of my DNA wants all you interlopers gone and our land back. Those two parts of my DNA aren't really talking to the White part of my DNA right now . . .
I have a few drops of William the Conquerer's blood in me. It doesn't make me a Normand, nor does it give me claim to the throne of England. Somehow I get the feeling you are a white dude with a European last name.
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:40 AM   #122
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Generally I don't comment on these things, it's not my country, I have no skin in the game, but this seems like such a simple thing to me.

I don't read the article from the OP as any kind of threat, merely an acknowledgement of the inevitable. If there is no deal over DACA, then these 'dreamers' will simply leave, as opposed to going underground and living in the shadows.

"After all these years living like a regular American teenager, I will not go back into hiding."

It's no kind of threat (to my reading), more like a simple acceptance of fate.
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Old 14th February 2018, 08:20 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Seriously, if a post ever screamed out for a rolls eyes, it was this one, hooboy.
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Claims that they were threatening to leave? ESTABLISHED
As long as you believe that, who can say otherwise. You know, except for all the people who actually read the statements and see no actual threats.

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Caterwauling? Well within the stated limits of the definition, and therefore poetic license: ESTABLISHED.
Again, if you were going for poetry, fantastic. You have painted an image with your words that is very compelling, even if completely separate from the facts at hand.

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drops mic.
Timing is everything. Probably should have done that a bit sooner.
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Old 14th February 2018, 08:51 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by uke2se View Post
I have a few drops of William the Conquerer's blood in me. It doesn't make me a Normand, nor does it give me claim to the throne of England. Somehow I get the feeling you are a white dude with a European last name.

Can't that be said of quite a few "Hispanics"?

Except, I guess, that 'of Spanish descent' seems to no longer fall in either the "white" or the "European" categories for many people.
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Old 14th February 2018, 12:21 PM   #125
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I thought I read that the DACA recipients saying they will leave (a total of one) don't necessarily need to do so right away but will anyways.

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Danielaís DACA protections donít expire until 2019, but she plans to leave the U.S. with her sister if Congress doesnít act to extend her privileges before the March deadline.
It seems the "threat" if there really is one, is that the US will feel pain when the dreamers all pack up and leave at once. That's how I understand the theory.

But the articles I've read all deal with these same two women, so I don't see that this is a massive movement.
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:44 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I thought I read that the DACA recipients saying they will leave (a total of one) don't necessarily need to do so right away but will anyways.



It seems the "threat" if there really is one, is that the US will feel pain when the dreamers all pack up and leave at once. That's how I understand the theory.

But the articles I've read all deal with these same two women, so I don't see that this is a massive movement.

Which there hasn't been, of course.

The loss of invested resources will be sad, as will the departure of a group who would likely prove to be far more patriotic and dedicated to the founding ideals of this country than any deluded Trump devotee could ever hope to be, But if the numbers I have heard are accurate, then even including all of the ones who could qualify (not just the ones who were gullible enough to register), we're still only talking about maybe one third of one percent of the over-all population of the country.

It would be hardest on any of their families who might remain in the States and the small businesses which many of them likely work for, I expect, but we all know how important families and small businesses really are to the GOP.

(Which is to say, not at all.)
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:45 PM   #127
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It would be hardest on families and small businesses, I expect, but we all know how important they really are to the GOP.

(Which is to say, not at all.)
I have to disagree.

They have the same importance to the GOP as the wounded antelope has to the lioness.
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:49 PM   #128
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I have to disagree.

They have the same importance to the GOP as the wounded antelope has to the lioness.


Good point.
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Old 14th February 2018, 05:17 PM   #129
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Generally I don't comment on these things, it's not my country, I have no skin in the game, but this seems like such a simple thing to me.

I don't read the article from the OP as any kind of threat, merely an acknowledgement of the inevitable. If there is no deal over DACA, then these 'dreamers' will simply leave, as opposed to going underground and living in the shadows.

"After all these years living like a regular American teenager, I will not go back into hiding."

It's no kind of threat (to my reading), more like a simple acceptance of fate.
It's not your fault. You just can't see how thirsty all those dreamers are.
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Old 14th February 2018, 05:37 PM   #130
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I have to disagree.

They have the same importance to the GOP as the wounded antelope has to the lioness.
QFT.
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Old 14th February 2018, 06:12 PM   #131
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It's not your fault. You just can't see how thirsty all those dreamers are.
Oh gosh, not "all" of them.

The ones in the article?

Thirsty.
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In a related note it is the white house will not comment on if Trumps Inlaws are using chain migration to get into the country. Maybe the whole thing in the state of the union was to find a way to deport his inlaws?
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No, not the only reason, but I'd say the most probable reason in this case, based on the way the glee is expressed.
So why does that law exist, then? Because people are racist? Or because they want to vet immigrants?

I don't get why you think it's racism necessarily. Should these people who were brought here by their parents given a path to citizenship? Sure. But what if they don't take it?
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Oh gosh, not "all" of them.

The ones in the article?

Thirsty.
How generous.

I guess you've let threatening and caterwauling go, but are going to now claim they are thirsty. Wise choice, really. The prior two have established meanings while the last is just ambiguous enough that you may get it to stick.

Go grab the mic, I think you can still save this one . . .
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How generous.

I guess you've let threatening and caterwauling go, but are going to now claim they are thirsty. Wise choice, really. The prior two have established meanings while the last is just ambiguous enough that you may get it to stick.

Go grab the mic, I think you can still save this one . . .
Oh dear, zombie thread ahoy! Did the Drama-ers leave or something?

Threatening, caterwauling and thirsty is no way to go through life.
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Oh dear, zombie thread ahoy! Did the Drama-ers leave or something?

Threatening, caterwauling and thirsty is no way to go through life.

Ahh? You're going to stop then?
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