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Old 15th September 2019, 08:33 AM   #1
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Just your everyday assault.

https://kstp.com/news/robbery-victim...olice/5488467/

Betha it would be national news if skin colors were reversed.
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Old 15th September 2019, 09:27 AM   #2
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*short thread alert*
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Old 15th September 2019, 09:28 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Mader Levap View Post
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Betha it would be national news if skin colors were reversed.
When I lived closer to the nightlife district in my city, I'd glance over crime statistics and muggings were about the most common crime. Police were prioritizing presence on the streets where the bars were located, but a look at a heat map would easily tell you the problem was pedestrian routes all around the area.

Suspects and victims were both very diverse.

So I challenge your assertion that the ethnic makeup of some robbers has significance.

If anything, the only part that seems out of the ordinary is the caution and discipline they showed (though I'm not saying this is admirable).
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Originally Posted by Mader Levap View Post
https://kstp.com/news/robbery-victim...olice/5488467/

Betha it would be national news if skin colors were reversed.
Why is that?

What's your point in posting this?
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Old 15th September 2019, 09:53 AM   #5
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He also was notified by his bank that $220 was withdrawn at an ATM using his debit card.
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Old 15th September 2019, 10:00 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
What?
HE WAS ALSO NOTIFIED BY HIS BANK THAT $220 WAS WITHDRAWN AT AN ATM USING HIS DEBIT CARD!!!
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Old 15th September 2019, 10:17 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
When I lived closer to the nightlife district in my city, I'd glance over crime statistics and muggings were about the most common crime. Police were prioritizing presence on the streets where the bars were located, but a look at a heat map would easily tell you the problem was pedestrian routes all around the area.

Suspects and victims were both very diverse.

So I challenge your assertion that the ethnic makeup of some robbers has significance.

If anything, the only part that seems out of the ordinary is the caution and discipline they showed (though I'm not saying this is admirable).
Caution and discipline would be five seconds and out of dodge, and not out in the open under surveillance cameras. This was incompetence at its worst. Blue shirt attacker never threw a punch in his life and they took freaking forever. Knuckleheads of the most amateur variety. Sad.
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Did he write the pin number for his card on the card?
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Did he write the pin number for his card on the card?
Probably said it out loud while being beaten. Smart, too, because his bank will likely reimburse him and you gain video of the users, not just at the ATM but tracking down the street. Bread crumb theory FTW
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Caution and discipline would be five seconds and out of dodge, and not out in the open under surveillance cameras. This was incompetence at its worst. Blue shirt attacker never threw a punch in his life and they took freaking forever. Knuckleheads of the most amateur variety. Sad.
Of all of my friends who have been mugged, none of them had experienced the 5-second version of a mugging you refer to.

My non-accolade was in reference to their selectivity and use of distractions. Your point about choosing a surveilled location is valid, however.
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
Of all of my friends who have been mugged, none of them had experienced the 5-second version of a mugging you refer to.

My non-accolade was in reference to their selectivity and use of distractions. Your point about choosing a surveilled location is valid, however.
Then your friends may not have been mugged by people with discipline and caution.

Ok, five seconds may be a bit hyperbolic. But the OP muggers seemed grossly dumb. Zero caution. Zero discipline. It was what, eight on one? If they were disciplined and cautious, they would have shaken him down out of sight and been out quickly. The video shows tormenting and humiliating the guy, ripping off his pants and throwing them away. Not exactly Oceans Eleven work here.
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So I challenge your assertion that the ethnic makeup of some robbers has significance.
It does not for me, but for many other people it does have significance. And sometimes it (significance and how people express it) gets twisted in amusing ways.

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The video shows tormenting and humiliating the guy, ripping off his pants and throwing them away. Not exactly Oceans Eleven work here.
Almost like stealing was only one of goals of these criminals. I think they were out for some "fun" first and foremost.
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Old 15th September 2019, 01:57 PM   #13
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When I lived closer to the nightlife district in my city, I'd glance over crime statistics and muggings were about the most common crime. Police were prioritizing presence on the streets where the bars were located, but a look at a heat map would easily tell you the problem was pedestrian routes all around the area.

Suspects and victims were both very diverse.

So I challenge your assertion that the ethnic makeup of some robbers has significance.

If anything, the only part that seems out of the ordinary is the caution and discipline they showed (though I'm not saying this is admirable).

You see discipline and caution, I see a bunch of guys who do this all the time so it's just another mugging for them. They know nothing will happen to them.

THAT is what is scary about this! The brazen act right out in the open. Are you frickin' kidding me?

Are we watching the same video where a guy leaps off a planter and lands with both feet on the victims abdomen, a guy runs him over with a bicycle, and other(s) beat the holy hell out of him?

Yet another appears with some kind of I dunno - flower pot? and smashes him in the head with it. I can't believe he was able to walk away. THAT is the amazing part.

Dude wtf. Ya that's some real discipline and self control.

Hell yes this would be front page national news if races were reversed, and it isn't because *I* think it should be. I don't. What I believe doesn't change the facts. It's the media and the hyper politically correct dipsticks that dictate what we all see and try and tell us what we should care about.

Look at the initial outrage and coverage over Jussie Smollett, sans video or any evidence at all.

Yes, let's all rewind the video and watch these cautious and disciplined gentlemen.

Unbelievable.

The thread title nailed it - Just Your Everyday Assault. Certainly looks like they do it every day to me.
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Well, I was responding to the written portions since I don't watch videos at work. I'm happy to be corrected on the issue.

Moving on, now.

ETA: I still maintain there would be nothing noteworthy about a reversed race version of this and making reference to "hyper polarized thought policing" tells me all I need to know.

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Well, I was responding to the written portions since I don't watch videos at work. I'm happy to be corrected on the issue.

Moving on, now.

ETA: I still maintain there would be nothing noteworthy about a reversed race version of this and making reference to "hyper polarized thought policing" tells me all I need to know.
Seriously, now: did you just say that if a group of white guys beat and dehumanized a black man in this way that the twittersphere and, yea verily, this very forum, would not be howling 'racism'?
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Wow. Those animals need to be put down. With extreme prejudice.
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Seriously, now: did you just say that if a group of white guys beat and dehumanized a black man in this way that the twittersphere and, yea verily, this very forum, would not be howling 'racism'?
I said nothing would be noteworthy about it.

Muggings and beatings happen all the time in all manner of racial dynamics.

What people and Twitter and this forum contort that into doesn't concern me.

Plus there would be just as many shouting "hoax."

But none of that makes any given mugging or beating motivated by racism. The only incidents I can recall rising to national prominence have involved people who are already public figures, so they make for good click bait.

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Far out

That was pretty ugly

Kind of wish I hadn't watched it.
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You see discipline and caution, I see a bunch of guys who do this all the time so it's just another mugging for them. They know nothing will happen to them.
The article I read said they were arrested and charged. Is that some street code for "nothing will happen to them"?
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Saw it a while ago, along with:

a black kid being bullied by two white kids;

a white boy that knocks the crap out of a girl that was pestering him;

a white man that got probation after knocking a 11-year-old black girl unconscious;

several other beatings, fights, etc.;

and a few comparisons to a homeless black woman who got 5 years (!) in prison for registering her kids to school in a wealthy district;

Is this an ugly video clip? Absolutely.

Was the victim killed because he was targeted over his skin color? No, he's alive, and he was targeted for his phone;

Did the police let the attackers go home with no charges? No, they were all charged with various crimes.

Will any jury twist themselves into knots to let them go? *Very* unlikely. Scummy guys like this go to jail all the time.

All this thread is missing is the usual "Why isn't Al Sharpton marching in the streets over this!? Speak up, Black Lives Matter!!!" post - because civil rights groups march for charged muggers to be...double secret charged? Released? I'm never clear on what any such march is supposed to be about.
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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
Saw it a while ago, along with:

a black kid being bullied by two white kids;

a white boy that knocks the crap out of a girl that was pestering him;

a white man that got probation after knocking a 11-year-old black girl unconscious;

several other beatings, fights, etc.;

and a few comparisons to a homeless black woman who got 5 years (!) in prison for registering her kids to school in a wealthy district;

Is this an ugly video clip? Absolutely.

Was the victim killed because he was targeted over his skin color? No, he's alive, and he was targeted for his phone;

Did the police let the attackers go home with no charges? No, they were all charged with various crimes.

Will any jury twist themselves into knots to let them go? *Very* unlikely. Scummy guys like this go to jail all the time.

All this thread is missing is the usual "Why isn't Al Sharpton marching in the streets over this!? Speak up, Black Lives Matter!!!" post - because civil rights groups march for charged muggers to be...double secret charged? Released? I'm never clear on what any such march is supposed to be about.
Thanks for that interesting diatribe
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Thanks for that interesting diatribe
Again, if you're ever ready to talk to me like you're an adult that can understand ideas, feel free to do so.
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The article I read said they were arrested and charged. Is that some street code for "nothing will happen to them"?
In white-supremacy land, maybe. They tell themselves all the time that blacks face no consequences for bad behavior; maybe they even believe it.
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Wow. Those animals need to be put down. With extreme prejudice.
You think 10-plus people need to be killed for beating (but not killing) another person? I think they simply deserve prison sentences.
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Again, if you're ever ready to talk to me like you're an adult that can understand ideas, feel free to do so.
Not sure what you want to talk about.

Dude gets beaten up on camera by bunch o thugs, pretty ugly to watch.

You then off one some rant featuring multiple examples of other people getting beaten up and then went on about race.
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Not sure what you want to talk about.

Dude gets beaten up on camera by bunch o thugs, pretty ugly to watch.

You then off one some rant featuring multiple examples of other people getting beaten up and then went on about race.
Did you somehow not read the OP...while reading the OP?
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Did you somehow not read the OP...while reading the OP?
Fair point, re-read it

Apologies

If it is any excuse, after a while stupid comments like that just tend to not register with me any more
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It does not for me, but for many other people it does have significance. And sometimes it (significance and how people express it) gets twisted in amusing ways.
The ethnic makeup doesn't matter to you, yet you feel the need to point out "it would be national news if skin colors were reversed."

Interesting.
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Apparently the viral conservative rumorsphere has been calling this an attack by a "gang of Somalis", trying to use the incident to stoke anti-immigrant fears.
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Betha it would be national news if skin colors were reversed.
If White people didn't marginalize and oppress POC all the time this would never happen.
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You think 10-plus people need to be killed for beating (but not killing) another person? I think they simply deserve prison sentences.
Yup. I wouldn't miss them. If they were Nazis we'd both be in agreement.
Some things are too broke for society to keep around. Prison would only hone their savagery.
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