Ed Ates released!

pipelineaudio · 23rd September 2018, 09:28 PM

https://verifiedtasks.com/ed-ates-wi...his-name-back/

Aside from arguably Kerry Max Cook, I think this is the first big release the Truth and Justice podcast had a real hand in winning.

But really, this isn't justic until all the corrupt cops, prosecutors, lawmakers and anyone else involved, go to death row in his place

Ampulla of Vater · 23rd September 2018, 10:07 PM

Too bad for Ruff he started out backing an obviously guilty one - Syed. It doesn't give him much cred.

I'll have to read about this case, but it looks like he only potentially helped to get him paroled at this point, as opposed to exonerated.

theprestige · 24th September 2018, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by pipelineaudio

But really, this isn't justic until all the corrupt cops, prosecutors, lawmakers and anyone else involved, go to death row in his place

Pretty sure that's not how justice works.

smartcooky · 24th September 2018, 12:11 PM

IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on.

Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..)

"Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story."

"Innocence Undertaking? Really?"

It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus....

Dr. Keith · 24th September 2018, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on.

Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..)

"Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story."

"Innocence Undertaking? Really?"

It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus....

Maybe a content scraping bot with a thesaurus built in to disguise the source?

Ampulla of Vater · 24th September 2018, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on.

Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..)

"Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story."

"Innocence Undertaking? Really?"

It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus....

I picked up on the same thing. I ended up googling a better rendition:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/ed...nts-name-back/

I initially thought it might have been translated, but realized after reading it that it probably was not originally written in another language.

Planigale · 27th September 2018, 12:40 AM

The parallel with another case here is interesting. The crime was violent but no evidence of the presence of Ruff at the crime scene; it will be interesting to see the results of DNA testing. There was no evidence of injuries on Ruff that should have been present following a violent crime. Prosecutors exaggerated forensic evidence (suspected faeces) beyond what was scientifically acceptable. The lack of evidence of the suspects presence and the lack of injuries compatible with a violent struggle make his presence at the time and place of the murder unlikely.

In England judges are expected to remind jurors that suspects may have other reasons to lie to police other than being guilty of the crime they are accused of.

23rd September 2018, 09:28 PM	#1
pipelineaudio Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,261	Ed Ates released! https://verifiedtasks.com/ed-ates-wi...his-name-back/ Aside from arguably Kerry Max Cook, I think this is the first big release the Truth and Justice podcast had a real hand in winning. But really, this isn't justic until all the corrupt cops, prosecutors, lawmakers and anyone else involved, go to death row in his place
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24th September 2018, 12:11 PM	#4
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 10,399	IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on. Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..) "Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story." "Innocence Undertaking? Really?" It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus....
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24th September 2018, 02:13 PM	#5
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 17,818	Originally Posted by smartcooky IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on. Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..) "Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story." "Innocence Undertaking? Really?" It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus.... Maybe a content scraping bot with a thesaurus built in to disguise the source?
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27th September 2018, 12:40 AM	#7
Planigale Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,968	The parallel with another case here is interesting. The crime was violent but no evidence of the presence of Ruff at the crime scene; it will be interesting to see the results of DNA testing. There was no evidence of injuries on Ruff that should have been present following a violent crime. Prosecutors exaggerated forensic evidence (suspected faeces) beyond what was scientifically acceptable. The lack of evidence of the suspects presence and the lack of injuries compatible with a violent struggle make his presence at the time and place of the murder unlikely. In England judges are expected to remind jurors that suspects may have other reasons to lie to police other than being guilty of the crime they are accused of.
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23rd September 2018, 10:07 PM	#2
Ampulla of Vater Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North of the White Line of Toldt Posts: 3,045	Too bad for Ruff he started out backing an obviously guilty one - Syed. It doesn't give him much cred. I'll have to read about this case, but it looks like he only potentially helped to get him paroled at this point, as opposed to exonerated.

24th September 2018, 07:09 AM	#3
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 31,739	Originally Posted by pipelineaudio But really, this isn't justic until all the corrupt cops, prosecutors, lawmakers and anyone else involved, go to death row in his place Pretty sure that's not how justice works.

24th September 2018, 03:33 PM	#6
Ampulla of Vater Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North of the White Line of Toldt Posts: 3,045	Originally Posted by smartcooky IS it me or is there something odd about this website that OP's article is on. Look at the wording (I've highlight the strange phrases seemingly out of place words..) "Ates, who’s six foot six, bald, and 50 years previous, is being paroled tomorrow morning and can stroll out of the Partitions Unit in Huntsville and into the arms of his spouse, Kim, and his two grown youngsters, Kyra and Zach. Kyra was two when her father was despatched away; Zach was in utero. Additionally in attendance can be Ates’s lawyer, Allison Clayton, who works for the Innocence Undertaking of Texas, and 4 of her regulation college students from the Texas Tech Innocence Clinic, who all traveled from Lubbock. Lastly, Ates shall be greeted by a person named Bob Ruff, a burly, tattooed podcaster from tiny Bridgman, Michigan. Ruff’s weekly podcast Fact & Justice has a whole lot of hundreds of listeners, and for the previous two and a half years, he’s devoted lots of his exhibits to the prisoner’s extraordinary story." "Innocence Undertaking? Really?" It reads like it has been badly translated by an automatic thesaurus.... I picked up on the same thing. I ended up googling a better rendition: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/ed...nts-name-back/ I initially thought it might have been translated, but realized after reading it that it probably was not originally written in another language.