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Old 25th June 2020, 12:51 PM   #721
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These folks do a lot of praying, which doesn't seem to amount to much.

What? Chad Daybell had visions that Tammy Daybell would die. And then she died!
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Old 25th June 2020, 01:01 PM   #722
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What? Chad Daybell had visions that Tammy Daybell would die. And then she died!
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Old 27th June 2020, 10:16 AM   #723
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More testing has been ordered on the bodies of JJ and Tylee. [East Idaho News]

Since it hasn't been outright mentioned here (and is mentioned in the article), egregious apparently means both dismembered and burned, in the case of Tylee. JJ was found wrapped in plastic.
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Old 29th June 2020, 10:50 AM   #724
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Article released today with specific details about the investigation. Well worth a read to understand what was known by the investigators and is just now coming to light:

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/0...investigation/
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Old 29th June 2020, 11:28 AM   #725
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Article released today with specific details about the investigation. Well worth a read to understand what was known by the investigators and is just now coming to light:

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/0...investigation/
I don't recall hearing about Tylee's friend getting a text message before. Some effort to keep the idea she's alive going?
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Old 29th June 2020, 11:39 AM   #726
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I don't recall hearing about Tylee's friend getting a text message before. Some effort to keep the idea she's alive going?
I would imagine. I remember reading somewhere, maybe upthread, that when police searched the house in Kauai, they discovered Tylee's phone. I'm betting cell phone records will show that it was one of the three perpetrators (alleged) who sent that text.
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Old 29th June 2020, 11:57 AM   #727
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I don't recall hearing about Tylee's friend getting a text message before. Some effort to keep the idea she's alive going?
Seems to be. I recall that her brother also mentioned in the Dateline series that he finally got a text but that it didn't sound like her.

A friend of Tylee's from Arizona is the one that received the text mentioned in the previous article:

https://www.postregister.com/news/lo...8719abb30.html
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Old 29th June 2020, 12:10 PM   #728
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Article released today with specific details about the investigation. Well worth a read to understand what was known by the investigators and is just now coming to light:

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/0...investigation/
It is troubling to think of what things the kids were exposed to in the years they lived with Lori, prior to murdering them. I don't believe she just woke up one day as a sociopath.

Though she is not a smart criminal, she makes up for it with deviousness. I view her as simply EVIL.
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It is troubling to think of what things the kids were exposed to in the years they lived with Lori, prior to murdering them. I don't believe she just woke up one day as a sociopath.

Though she is not a smart criminal, she makes up for it with deviousness. I view her as simply EVIL.
I can't argue that one bit.
I can't imagine what made them feel killing them was the best option, I mean, why not just send your demon infused kids off to live with their grandparents, who you're pissed at, and who clearly wanted them? Wouldn't that have freed Chad and Lori to run off together without the potential threat of being locked up in prison when the world ends?
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I can't argue that one bit.
I can't imagine what made them feel killing them was the best option, I mean, why not just send your demon infused kids off to live with their grandparents, who you're pissed at, and who clearly wanted them? Wouldn't that have freed Chad and Lori to run off together without the potential threat of being locked up in prison when the world ends?
Because Kay Woodcock got the insurance money from Charles Vallow's death. The 400k that Chad received from Tammy's policy wasn't going to last them that long, although it only needed to last until late July.

Then again, they were going to hole in up Hawaii and that place is not cheap.
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Because Kay Woodcock got the insurance money from Charles Vallow's death. The 400k that Chad received from Tammy's policy wasn't going to last them that long, although it only needed to last until late July.

Then again, they were going to hole in up Hawaii and that place is not cheap.
Ah, the old, kill the kids out of just plain pure unmitigated spite, routine.
Yeah, I'm afraid I've been thinking it's that simple from early on.
As wasapi said, she's simply evil, and Chad's no better.
Wonder what their devout supporters* are saying now days?



*I'm not talking here, I think the best we had were wishful thinkers, I mean the ones who replied to every news story with, "You wait til the truth comes out, you'll see, the kids were fine all along!" in the comments section supporters.
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Police served yet another search warrant at Daybell's property today, although the visit this time was lower-key and they only spent about an hour and a half on-site.
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Police served yet another search warrant at Daybell's property today, although the visit this time was lower-key and they only spent about an hour and a half on-site.
IMO, they knew exactly what they were looking for and where to find it.
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Note these are essentially the same two charges that were laid on Chad Daybell after the initial finding of the bodies.
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Probable cause affidavit related to Lori's new charges. [East Idaho News]

Hearing for Lori in ~15 minutes.
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Ah, the old, kill the kids out of just plain pure unmitigated spite, routine.
Yeah, I'm afraid I've been thinking it's that simple from early on.
As wasapi said, she's simply evil, and Chad's no better.
Wonder what their devout supporters* are saying now days?



*I'm not talking here, I think the best we had were wishful thinkers, I mean the ones who replied to every news story with, "You wait til the truth comes out, you'll see, the kids were fine all along!" in the comments section supporters.
Possibly, I just think that there was no way she was sending the kids there after that happened. In fact, without the Woodcocks' persistent involvement I don't think the children would have been found yet, if ever. Kay was Lori's mortal enemy and was always suspicious about how her brother Charles died as well.

Lori was never one to ever support herself, throughout her whole life (based on what I have read about her background) and she was really counting on that money so that she and Chad could complete their "mission". But yeah, she also needed something to live on as Chad's Apocalyptic Cult books probably don't pay the bills for trips to Hawaii.

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After the hearings for Lori and Chad that took place yesterday and today respectively, new preliminary hearing dates have been set. Chad's preliminary hearing has been set for 3-4 August and Lori's has been set for 10-11 August. [East Idaho News]

During Lori's hearing, Judge Faren Eddins (who had been removed from the case back when Lori wasn't facing conspiracy charges) had asked Mr. Mark Means (Lori's atty.) if he had ever represented any of the other accused in the conspiracy. Mr. Means replied no, upon which Mr. Rob Wood (the prosecution) noted that Mr. Means had indicated that Mr. Means was representing both Lori and Chad at a prior point in time, though there were no criminal charges against Chad at the time. Judge Eddins requested an explanation from each attorney.

Lori's bail remains at $1 million, and the terms of bail still include an ankle monitor and strict limits on whereabouts.

Chad's bail has also been set at $1 million.
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The desertion charges against Lori have been dropped. In addition to her conspiracy charges, she still faces misdemeanor charges from her arrest.
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