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Old 18th March 2020, 07:49 PM   #681
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When the media say that there are 215,000 cases who have had or have the virus and that there are 8,850 deaths it is misinformation that this 215,000 cases are all people who tested positive among the sickest , in reality you may have 800 million people who have been infected and this virus is no more virulent than an ordinary cold. How can we imagine that there are no more cases than people who have been tested? You have millions of people who have had the virus and who did not see fit to go to the hospital because they did not require treatment. The media say false information to scare the world in order to increase their audience ratings and make money. As long as you don't abolish money, you always have people who will benefit others.
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Old 18th March 2020, 08:20 PM   #682
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Please provide proof of everything.
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Old 19th March 2020, 06:37 AM   #683
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When the media say that there are 215,000 cases who have had or have the virus and that there are 8,850 deaths it is misinformation that this 215,000 cases are all people who tested positive among the sickest , in reality you may have 800 million people who have been infected and this virus is no more virulent than an ordinary cold. How can we imagine that there are no more cases than people who have been tested? You have millions of people who have had the virus and who did not see fit to go to the hospital because they did not require treatment. The media say false information to scare the world in order to increase their audience ratings and make money. As long as you don't abolish money, you always have people who will benefit others.
Once this covid19 scare is over, it's all puppies and rainbows. Manna will fall from heaven. Beer taps will be installed in every home. Coffee will be delivered door to door, fresh brewed, or tea, same deal. And we will be able to use TP against our enemies as God intended.

These are all facts.

I know this comes as a bit of a surprise, but since you are avoiding the question, none of what you are saying would produce more TP, hand sanitizer. People would still stockpile for personal use or gain. Just because currency disappears, doesn't mean you can't gain resources.

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Old 20th March 2020, 10:28 AM   #684
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
When the media say that there are 215,000 cases who have had or have the virus and that there are 8,850 deaths it is misinformation that this 215,000 cases are all people who tested positive among the sickest , in reality you may have 800 million people who have been infected and this virus is no more virulent than an ordinary cold. How can we imagine that there are no more cases than people who have been tested? You have millions of people who have had the virus and who did not see fit to go to the hospital because they did not require treatment. The media say false information to scare the world in order to increase their audience ratings and make money. As long as you don't abolish money, you always have people who will benefit others.
You know just as much about the covid virus as you know about economics.

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Old 20th March 2020, 04:33 PM   #685
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You know just as much about the covid virus as you know about economics.
Scientists who know want to get money to make research, a lot of people take advantage of the situation to fill their bags of money for sure you don't need to be an expert in economic to know that. They say they have no new case in China meaning that everybody had the virus and are immunized.

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Old 20th March 2020, 06:31 PM   #686
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Scientists who know want to get money to make research, a lot of people take advantage of the situation to fill their bags of money for sure you don't need to be an expert in economic to know that. They say they have no new case in China meaning that everybody had the virus and are immunized.
Can you please stop lying Gaetan?

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You know just as much about the covid virus as you know about economics.

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Old 20th March 2020, 07:23 PM   #687
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What’s the invisible hand up to? No friendly tugs for the wealthy but smacking everyone around the head. Going to be a lot of people looking to government money and regulations. Socialism to the rescue.
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Old 20th March 2020, 07:55 PM   #688
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It is going to cost you 100,000 bucks if you are confined in an hospital with no insurance, good luck, comes by chance Birnie Sanders. But you fellows say he is too much communist to be a serious candidate.
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It is going to cost you 100,000 bucks if you are confined in an hospital with no insurance, good luck, comes by chance Birnie Sanders. But you fellows say he is too much communist to be a serious candidate.
If I am confined to hospital with no insurance it would cost me nothing, zero, nada.

Stop lying.
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Old 21st March 2020, 07:41 PM   #690
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If I am confined to hospital with no insurance it would cost me nothing, zero, nada.

Stop lying.
You are a british, not an American. It cost me nothing in Canada either.

Bernie, rescue them.


Coronavirus: Woman charged $35,000 by hospital for testing and treatment

Danni Askini does not have insurance and could be expected to foot the medical bill herself

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9415641.html

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It is going to cost you 100,000 bucks if you are confined in an hospital with no insurance, good luck, comes by chance Birnie Sanders. But you fellows say he is too much communist to be a serious candidate.
Incorrect. If you go to the hospital and get diagnosed with Coronavirus, you get paid 100 grand. No need for Bernie.
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You are a british, not an American. It cost me nothing in Canada either.
Wrong again. I am not American Canadian nor British. Nor have I ever lived in those countries. Is there anything you can actually get right?

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Bernie, rescue them.
Can Bernie rescue the Canadians or the British? From what? From the free healthcare they have already?


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Coronavirus: Woman charged $35,000 by hospital for testing and treatment

Danni Askini does not have insurance and could be expected to foot the medical bill herself

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9415641.html
Sure. The US is a first world country with a third world healthcare system. Nobody here can fix that. Bernie certainly wont be doing that. Your nutty idea will not do that. In fact, your "no money" idea would result in NO HEALTHCARE AT ALL.
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Old 23rd March 2020, 07:37 PM   #693
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The banks must pay the price for the crisis of the Covid-19. First your government must oblige the banks to suspend all paiement from house owner and also paiement of rent apartment until the crisis is solved and life is back to normal. Also the government must pay welfare or unemployment to people who don't have job. The best way is to abolish money, you pay nothing and you work for nothing.

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Old 23rd March 2020, 09:54 PM   #694
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How about you worry about your own government. Perhaps you can start learning about economics?

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The banks must pay the price for the crisis of the Covid-19. First your government must oblige the banks to suspend all paiement from house owner and also paiement of rent apartment until the crisis is solved and life is back to normal. Also the government must pay welfare or unemployment to people who don't have job. The best way is to abolish money, you pay nothing and you work for nothing.
Covid 19 is going to make everyone a little bit taller. smarter, richer and dare I say, even more sexy. Scientific facts. You may want to go out and do some reading on the subject that doesn't come from the medias or the government. Why do you think they don't want you to catch it? Public health? Hardly.
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Old 24th March 2020, 06:42 AM   #696
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Also the government must pay welfare or unemployment to people who don't have job. The best way is to abolish money, you pay nothing and you work for nothing.
Can you explain the highlighted flaw?

If you are getting unemployment, by definition, you are not working. You are getting something for nothing. How is that sustainable?
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The banks must pay the price for the crisis of the Covid-19. First your government must oblige the banks to suspend all paiement from house owner and also paiement of rent apartment until the crisis is solved and life is back to normal. Also the government must pay welfare or unemployment to people who don't have job. The best way is to abolish money, you pay nothing and you work for nothing.

Since when do banks rent apartments to people?


Again, even without money people will work for the things they can get (and want) thus will pay for the things they can get with their labor. So once again abolishing money doesn't do what you have claimed. All it does is disassociate the cost (how much labor, energy and/or materials you take) from the payment (how much labor, energy and/or materials you give). Again, just making it easier for some people to rip off other people. Given one of your big complaints is the rich ripping off the poor and people ripping off their neighbors by paying them the minimum and demanding the maximum for themselves. why the heck would you want it to be easier for people to rip off each-other? I mean other than your own stated desire to simply not have to live up to your own fiduciary obligations.
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Since when do banks rent apartments to people?


Again, even without money people will work for the things they can get (and want) thus will pay for the things they can get with their labor. So once again abolishing money doesn't do what you have claimed. All it does is disassociate the cost (how much labor, energy and/or materials you take) from the payment (how much labor, energy and/or materials you give). Again, just making it easier for some people to rip off other people. Given one of your big complaints is the rich ripping off the poor and people ripping off their neighbors by paying them the minimum and demanding the maximum for themselves. why the heck would you want it to be easier for people to rip off each-other? I mean other than your own stated desi

re to simply not have to live up to your own fiduciary obligations.
It started shortly after the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor.
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It started shortly after the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor.
Must have been about that time that banks also started using their own money to make loans, like mortgages.
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I see that you fellows react favorably to the announce of Donald Trump wish to sacrifice olders for money. To abolish money save lives.

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Cite? Otherwise you continue your pattern of lies.

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I see that you fellows react favorably to the announce of Donald Trump wish to sacrifice olders for money. To abolish money save lives.
Where exactly do you see that? Because I think you are just lying again.
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I see that you fellows react favorably to the announce of Donald Trump wish to sacrifice olders for money. To abolish money save lives.
As much as I dislike the Numbnuts-in-Chief, he made no such statement

This ******* did:

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/24/tex...onomy_partner/

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick suggested on Fox News that older Americans should be willing to risk getting coronavirus and dying so that younger Americans are able to keep working and maintain the economy.
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The actual crisis is the best moment to get rid of the poison who ruin our life, the tool of evil, money, you work for nothing, you pay nothing.
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The actual crisis is the best moment to get rid of the poison who ruin our life, the tool of evil, money, you work for nothing, you pay nothing.
How does that produce more, or even an adequate supply of anything?

The tool of evil, is people trying to use these emergencies to enact or enforce their political ideals.

Money did not create this crisis. Getting rid of it will not ease it.
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The actual crisis is the best moment to get rid of the poison who ruin our life, the tool of evil, money, you work for nothing, you pay nothing.

Again, absolutely not, people would still have to work for what can be gotten and would pay for what they and others (not working) can get with that labor. Just getting rid of money doesn't change any of that. Why do you continue to, apparently deliberately, ignore that simply getting rid of money doesn't and can't produce the result you want to claim? Again, instead of helping the people that would still work, all it does is make it easier for others to take advantage of them.
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The actual crisis is the best moment to get rid of the poison who ruin our life, the tool of evil, money, you work for nothing, you pay nothing.
You first - send it to:

https://samaritanhousesanmateo.org/
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The CIA stole millions of masks going to France by corrupting people at the china airport by paying cash. Save who can pay. Poor fools.
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The CIA stole millions of masks going to France by corrupting people at the china airport by paying cash. Save who can pay. Poor fools.
Normally I'd ask for some sort of cite for the claim, but there is a fundamental problem I've highlighted.

So cash can cause communists to violate agreements. Something we've been telling you for a while now. If it wasn't cash, it would be some other resource. Why would communists sell themselves out? Money doesn't make greed go away. It's just the medium of exchange. It could have been potatoes for all that it matters.
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The CIA stole millions of masks going to France by corrupting people at the china airport by paying cash. Save who can pay. Poor fools.
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Normally I'd ask for some sort of cite for the claim, ...
Don't worry.

Gaetan, please provide evidence of this. Or is this another lie that you make up?
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The CIA stole millions of masks going to France by corrupting people at the china airport by paying cash. Save who can pay. Poor fools.
Paid, unlike the French who actually stole masks headed for England - LOOK, a link - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/112215...navirus-masks/
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Don't worry.

Gaetan, please provide evidence of this. Or is this another lie that you make up?
Well, the event was reported. The CIA part was left out, so that's going to need some corroboration.
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The best way to stop the negative effect of the Covid-19 is to abolish money, but if you don't, stop payment to banks by law because a lot will turn to bankruptcy.
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So you lied about the CIA. And now we can add medicine and biology to things you don't know. Covid-19 kills people. How will abolishing money bring them back? Why are you still using money? Why haven't you given it to people who can use it?
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The best way to stop the negative effect of the Covid-19 is to abolish money, but if you don't, stop payment to banks by law because a lot will turn to bankruptcy.
Why is people using bankruptcy laws bad?

Also, what negative effects are you talking about? You aren't going to stop anyone from dying by banishing money. There are 138 dead Canadians, despite "free" medical care, from this virus. Please explain how they were spared from the negative effects?
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The best way to stop the negative effect of the Covid-19 is to abolish money, but if you don't, stop payment to banks by law because a lot will turn to bankruptcy.
When does jesus-man make his appearance?
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When i talked about the negative effect, i talked the negative effect on the economy, but there are others negative effect of money on medicine because research is stopped by patents and also it keeps high price on medication, and the desire of the industries to hide their research to deprive competitors from discoveries.

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When i talked about the negative effect, i talked the negative effect on the economy, but there are others negative effect of money on medicine because research is stopped by patents and also it keeps high price on medication, and the desire of the industries to hide their research to deprive competitors from discoveries.
So dead people, screw them, right?

Again, I point to dead people in Canada with their zero cost at delivery system. So how does the high price on medication, a price that basically doesn't exist in Canada, work again?

Patents don't stop research. They stop outright copies. Even without patents, countries would stop the export of these medicines as they provide a tactical advantage. France seized masks at the borders. Masks. Nothing complicated about them. But they just took them. Countries would stop the export of medicines to hostile, or unfriendly nations. Hell, France and England are currently friendly, and that didn't stop them from seizing those masks.

But dead people, who cares, it's about the economy.
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