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Old 1st December 2019, 11:42 AM   #1
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A retired journalist who founded a campaign to preserve the correct use of the apostrophe is bowing out because "ignorance has won".

The Apostrophe Protection Society was started by John Richards in 2001 to tackle misuse of the punctuation mark.

His work involved advising people on proper use and writing to organisations to highlight their apostrophe abuse.

The 96-year-old said: "We have done our best but the ignorance and laziness present in modern times have won."
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I no eggsackly how they feel's. Good littericalitisationism and Gramer is sadly lacking in peoples' these day's.

I tend too agree it is probably purley lazy'ness
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No one should be surprised at the disappointing outcome. An apostrophe is, after all, a combination of an apocalypse and a catastrophe.
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I thought that was an alpoca.
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I thought that was an alpoca.
What do sweater's have to do with the OP?
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A retired journalist who founded a campaign to preserve the correct use of the apostrophe is bowing out because "ignorance has won".

The Apostrophe Protection Society was started by John Richard's in 2001 to tackle misuse of the punctuation mark.

His work involved advising people on proper use and writing to organisation's to highlight their apostrophe abuse.

The 96-year-old said: "We have done our best but the ignorance and laziness present in modern time's have won."
Edited to reflect current common usage in social media.
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I shall never give up my Oxford Comma!
All your Oxford commas are belong to us!
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I shall never give up my Oxford Comma!
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All your Oxford commas are belong to us!
You can have my Oxford Commas when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!
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I do wonder if perhaps some people are just contrary.

A shop (hairdresser/beauty parlour) I pass on the bus occasionally has every single plural on its signage apostrophized, but omits the mark where it ought to be (the only exception being the business name, where to be fair, it's common practice to omit).

E.g. "gents cut's, hair extension's".
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The BBC mixes American and UK conventions when it comes to punctuation near quotation marks. See first paragraph vs. fourth in the excerpted text in the first post.
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Communication isn't for the masses. Information isn't for the masses. They have their folk ways and their traditions, to carry them through the vicissitudes of life.

The rule of the apostrophe is for scientists and philosophers, to talk amongst themselves about the higher things.
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Well, there's still hope. Just as long as everyone remembers to put two spaces after their .'s.
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Well, there's still hope. Just as long as everyone remembers to put two spaces after their .'s.
That's what my junior high school typing teacher taught me to do. I never bother on a computer, though.
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That's what my junior high school typing teacher taught me to do. I never bother on a computer, though.
It's so embedded in my muscle memory I'd have a hard time stopping. I think the forum software strips out the extra one.

The first word processor I got for a Commodore 64 automatically put two spaces after every period. And decimal point. Two dollars and sixteen cents came out as $2. 16.

Now I'm going to click submit and see what the forum software does with that.
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I think they should be abolished. I defy anyone to write a pun where the only ambiguity is the placement of the apostrophe.
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That's what my junior high school typing teacher taught me to do. I never bother on a computer, though.
If you do that while texting (two spaces) it automatically enters a period for you.
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I think they should be abolished. I defy anyone to write a pun where the only ambiguity is the placement of the apostrophe.

F''ocsle that!
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It's so embedded in my muscle memory I'd have a hard time stopping. I think the forum software strips out the extra one.

The first word processor I got for a Commodore 64 automatically put two spaces after every period. And decimal point. Two dollars and sixteen cents came out as $2. 16.

Now I'm going to click submit and see what the forum software does with that.
It would make a mess of will.i.am.
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One is never certain if Varwoche is a man of culture or just a guy who churns out code, but if he can't get the apostrophe right, there is no hope.
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I don't mind a typo now and then, but not when it's on permanent display on your main web page or the first splash screen of your expensive video game. I just came across these in the last week.
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One is never certain if Varwoche is a man of culture or just a guy who churns out code, but if he can't get the apostrophe right, there is no hope.
Fortunately my regular stalk Caleb routine permits me to nip these ugly smear's in the bud.

OK this part not a joke ... a few years ago there was an academic interviewed on NPR who made a compelling case for why the apostrophe should be retired. (One of the lesser points he made is how much typing occurs on mobile devices.) I heartily endorse, and hereby forego this archaic character. I need a little test run here...

Omitting an apostrophe isnt a big deal. Adding one in where it doesnt belong on the other hand is downright embarrassing.
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You're to be forgiven. You were excited. Your blood was up. First thought, best thought.
Thanks for nothing. I did such an artful job of making my gaffe seem like an omission, not a commission. For naught.
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I don't mind a typo now and then, but not when it's on permanent display on your main web page or the first splash screen of your expensive video game. I just came across these in the last week.

I can't find the typo on the "Brightness" screen shot. Unless you mean the text running off the screen to the right, but that's more likely a display formatting error than any error in the text itself.

ETA: Oops, never mind. "Constrast."
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I had to look a long time. I think it was misspelling of Wednesday. small print.
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I had to look a long time. I think it was misspelling of Wednesday. small print.

On that one, yeah, plus "... Twin Cities Best..." with no apostrophe.
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Well, there's still hope. Just as long as everyone remembers to put two spaces after their .'s.
Wait, that used to be a rule? What was the supposed purpose/rationale behind it?

I'm just curious, because I've never heard of that before, except in the case of teachers specifically saying not to do it as a bogus way to inflate page count. If anything, I'm sure it was taught to me as being incorrect. AFAIK, spell and grammar checks I've used all mark doing that as incorrect, as well.
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Wait, that used to be a rule? What was the supposed purpose/rationale behind it?

I'm just curious, because I've never heard of that before, except in the case of teachers specifically saying not to do it as a bogus way to inflate page count. If anything, I'm sure it was taught to me as being incorrect. AFAIK, spell and grammar checks I've used all mark doing that as incorrect, as well.

I think it was one of those typewriting rules that represented typesetting conventions in ways a standard typewriter was capable of. Like using underline to stand in for italic type. A typesetter could substitute a slightly wider space.
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I had to look a long time. I think it was misspelling of Wednesday. small print.
“Wednesday” is a still-birth of a name. It somehow misspells and mispronounces itself at one go.
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I had to look a long time. I think it was misspelling of Wednesday. small print.
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Wait, that used to be a rule? What was the supposed purpose/rationale behind it?

I'm just curious, because I've never heard of that before, except in the case of teachers specifically saying not to do it as a bogus way to inflate page count. If anything, I'm sure it was taught to me as being incorrect. AFAIK, spell and grammar checks I've used all mark doing that as incorrect, as well.
Double space emphasizes the full stop. Makes reading text easier and eliminates confusion after initilizations.

It is useful but killed by character limits.
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“Wednesday” is a still-birth of a name. It somehow misspells and mispronounces itself at one go.
Like "February". No wonder it got shortchanged on days.
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Like "February". No wonder it got shortchanged on days.
The fifth Wednesday in February is Superfluousness Day.
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