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Old 13th November 2019, 11:54 AM   #1
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In denial about racist attack while black

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'I do not remember when I was growing up having all of these race issues.’
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Huh? She literally sued the local education board over *racist bullying* when she was a teenager in high school!
Candace Owens tells Fox News race wasn’t an issue when she was younger, but she seems to be forgetting something (Market Watch, Nov. 12, 2019)

I have a very hard time understanding why she would be in denial about this, but it seems very obvious that she is.
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:03 PM   #2
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Meh, memory sucks and its easily manipulated by our own desires. She doesn't want to remember it, so she doesn't. We all do this a little bit, its must of us aren't trying to make a political point while being recorded.

This is not much different from Hillary Clinton's dodging sniper fire on a run way or Whats-his-name's helocopter being shot down. We all alter our memories to fit our internal and sometimes external narratives about ourselves and the world. Of course, she could just be lying too.

I was never involved in a drunken escapade involving a fiberglass cow for instance.

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Old 13th November 2019, 12:06 PM   #3
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Maybe she's making a distinction between a single, rare case in her teenage years, and the apparent proliferation of such cases since then.
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:11 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
Meh, memory sucks and its easily manipulated by our own desires. She doesn't want to remember it, so she doesn't. We all do this a little bit, its must of us aren't trying to make a political point while being recorded.

This is not much different from Hillary Clinton's dodging sniper fire on a run way or Whats-his-name's helocopter being shot down. We all alter our memories to fit our internal and sometimes external narratives about ourselves and the world. Of course, she could just be lying too.

I was never involved in a drunken escapade involving a fiberglass cow for instance.
Yes, who can be expected to remember every single federal lawsuit they won against the Board of Education?
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:14 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Maybe she's making a distinction between a single, rare case in her teenage years, and the apparent proliferation of such cases since then.
Or maybe she's a liar and a grifter.
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:19 PM   #6
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Meh, memory sucks and its easily manipulated by our own desires. She doesn't want to remember it, so she doesn't.
Or she remembers it, and considers it a rarity in its time, but much more commonplace now.
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:25 PM   #7
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Maybe she's making a distinction between a single, rare case in her teenage years, and the apparent proliferation of such cases since then.

In order to make the distinction, she would have to mention it. And it would ruin her claim that "these race issues" didn't really exist until Obama and his supporters called them into being by using "that awful name-calling rhetoric":

The Majority Report with Sam Seder: Candace Owens Forgets Her Own History During Bizarre Interview

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Old 13th November 2019, 12:26 PM   #8
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Or she remembers it, and considers it a rarity in its time, but much more commonplace now.

She claims that she doesn't remember anything like that!
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Old 13th November 2019, 12:28 PM   #9
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I was never involved in a drunken escapade involving a fiberglass cow for instance.



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She claims that she doesn't remember anything like that!
She claims she doesn't remember "all of these race issues". Recalling a single rare event is not necessary, in order to advance that claim. Your interpretation is not necessarily correct.
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Old 13th November 2019, 01:04 PM   #11
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In order to make the distinction, she would have to mention it.
Why? She makes the distinction in her head, discards the single rare event as not relevant to the point she's making, and then makes her point. She never says it didn't happen, that's you adding your interpretation to the actual text. She says it didn't happen as much as now. A single event, even if it happened to her, doesn't contradict that claim, nor require any denial when making that claim.
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Old 13th November 2019, 01:18 PM   #12
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Why? She makes the distinction in her head, discards the single rare event as not relevant to the point she's making, and then makes her point. She never says it didn't happen, that's you adding your interpretation to the actual text. She says it didn't happen as much as now. A single event, even if it happened to her, doesn't contradict that claim, nor require any denial when making that claim.

No, she doesn't. If what you say is half-way true, she is lying about it because she claims that she doesn't remember. That is a very different story from the one that you make up.
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I have a very hard time understanding why she would be in denial about this, but it seems very obvious that she is.
Why should mere facts get in the way of the proper narrative?
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