ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories » 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags 9/11 truth movement , Alain Soral , anti-semitism , Dieudonne M'bala M'bala , Rudy Dent

Reply
Old 9th May 2017, 07:16 PM   #281
trustbutverify
Philosopher
 
trustbutverify's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,011
Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
If she's is of Jewish descent, she serves as an example that even folks of Jewish descent can be rabid anti-semites - cuz that's what she is. Similar to how 911Truth hero Rudy Dent, a man of African descent and dark skin, is a Hitler fanboy and paleo-nazi.
I'm not sure anyone who considers the furiously anti-semetic Wiki spooks a legitimate source would be bothered in the least by this information.
__________________
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Wollen owns the stage
trustbutverify is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 9th May 2017, 10:45 PM   #282
Childlike Empress
Ewige Blumenkraft
 
Childlike Empress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ivory Tower
Posts: 14,871
"Anti-semetic"? LOL.

If she's a jewess, the terminus technicus is "self-hating jew", btw.

Jesus, these people can't even get their smears right.
__________________
De-Putin-Nazify America!
...progress updates [1] [2] [...] [5]...
Childlike Empress is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 10th May 2017, 11:16 AM   #283
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
If she's a jewess, the terminus technicus is "self-hating jew", btw
Interesting. CE himself is now on record posting anti-semitic stereotype.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 14th May 2017, 07:28 PM   #284
Notconvinced
Critical Thinker
 
Notconvinced's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 339
Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
He is married to this blonde Swede:
https://www.facebook.com/helje.bollyn

The family name "Kaskel" however may indeed be Jewish: There exists a noble family von Kaskel in Austria.

If she's is of Jewish descent, she serves as an example that even folks of Jewish descent can be rabid anti-semites - cuz that's what she is. Similar to how 911Truth hero Rudy Dent, a man of African descent and dark skin, is a Hitler fanboy and paleo-nazi.
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
Notconvinced is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 15th May 2017, 07:59 AM   #285
carlitos
"más divertido"
 
carlitos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 17,718
Steve Pieczenik is a loon.
carlitos is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 15th May 2017, 11:39 AM   #286
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
The name rings only a faint bell, and I have no information to judge either way.

If I had to bet, I would say yes, because you, an outed anti-semite, seem to think there might be reason to classify Pieczenik as an antisemite; this occurs to me as a good indication that good reasons exist, otherwise you wouldn't bring up specifically that person.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 15th May 2017, 12:05 PM   #287
beachnut
Penultimate Amazing
 
beachnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Dog House
Posts: 24,814
Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
Is he your inforwar woo hero. Steve sells books, books of fiction and he spreads BS, more fiction. Are all your heros paranoid nuts who write fiction, and play to Alex Jones' lunatic fringe
__________________
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen" - Albert Einstein
"... education as the means of developing our greatest abilities" - JFK
https://folding.stanford.edu/ fold with your computer - join team 13232
beachnut is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 15th May 2017, 11:58 PM   #288
trustbutverify
Philosopher
 
trustbutverify's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,011
Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
Ah Pieczenik, the man with the invented...well...everything. Don't hear much about him anymore.
__________________
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Wollen owns the stage
trustbutverify is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd May 2017, 11:10 AM   #289
beachnut
Penultimate Amazing
 
beachnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Dog House
Posts: 24,814
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/02...1-truth-event/

ae911t = a whole lot of ignorance

Sorry for the VT reference... the facts: Kevin Barrett, Richard Gage, AIA (AIA he is using it), and Christopher Bollyn, spoke at “The War on Islam: 9/11 Revisited, Uncovered and Exposed” last Saturday, February 18th, 10 a.m., to the NOI. What is anti-semitic about that...

Liars speak to NOI, claim it was an inside job.
__________________
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen" - Albert Einstein
"... education as the means of developing our greatest abilities" - JFK
https://folding.stanford.edu/ fold with your computer - join team 13232

Last edited by beachnut; 22nd May 2017 at 11:13 AM.
beachnut is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd May 2017, 10:32 PM   #290
trustbutverify
Philosopher
 
trustbutverify's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,011
Originally Posted by beachnut View Post
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/02...1-truth-event/

ae911t = a whole lot of ignorance

Sorry for the VT reference... the facts: Kevin Barrett, Richard Gage, AIA (AIA he is using it), and Christopher Bollyn, spoke at “The War on Islam: 9/11 Revisited, Uncovered and Exposed” last Saturday, February 18th, 10 a.m., to the NOI. What is anti-semitic about that...

Liars speak to NOI, claim it was an inside job.
Leeme guess... the prefix "Zio" made a few appearances?
__________________
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Wollen owns the stage
trustbutverify is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 29th May 2017, 11:29 AM   #291
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
...Only a tiny minority of the public is vocally Anti-Semitic or Neo-Nazi or a Holocaust Denier. So when you find a substantial overlap amongst these, people will naturally draw conclusions. Rudy Dent isn't an isolated example. See also Eric Hufschmid, Ken O'Keefe, Christopher Bollyn, Rebekah Roth, Jim Fetzer, Karl Schwarz; the list is long.
...
I see that so far, we haven't seen evidence of James Fetzer's anti-semitism in this thread. I happened to stumble across an example today: On his blog, Fetzer reposted a holocaust-revision piece in July 2015:
The Holocaust Narrative: Politics Trumps Science
In it, he makes reference to what he calls a "refreshing scientific study of the Holocaust" by Nicholas Kollerstrom, whom Fetzer describes as "[maybe] the most honorable man whom I have ever had the pleasure to know"
Kollerstrom of course denies that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz and puts the number of holocaust victims at only 1 million. How refreshing.

Fetzer goes on to outright deny the reality of the holocaust.

Little wonder then that he squarely puts the blame for 9/11 on "Israel" - read: The Jews.

Fetzer doesn't agree with many other Truthers, and few Truthers agree with Fetzer on much.
But what Truthers across all the churches of Twoof, despite the many schisms, can agree upon is their welcoming of holocaust denial and anti-semitism.

Every little man who decides to follow that pack must be made very aware of this company!
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 29th May 2017, 12:22 PM   #292
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
http://stevepieczenik.com/tag/holocaust/

Hint: He has no article agreeing that the holocaust was real.
So yes, he seems to be a rabid anti-semite.
I listened to 30 minutes of this paleo-antisemitic rant: Pieczenik asserts that THE Jews are out to hurl the world into Armaggeddon and that THE Jews behind the world conspiracy did the holocaust to manipulate the world.
Yes, Steve Pieczenik is a dirty, deluded antisemite.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 29th May 2017, 07:34 PM   #293
JSanderO
Master Poster
 
JSanderO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: nyc
Posts: 2,688
Fetzer is a narcissistic jerk. I had the unfortunate experience of speaking directly ion the phone with him in 2010. Doesn't have a clue about engineering.
__________________
So many idiots and so little time.
JSanderO is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 30th May 2017, 01:21 PM   #294
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
...
Haven't checked out Anthony J. Hall yet - he, too, associates with Barrett and of course with Blakeney.
It's time to check out Anthony Hall. Can anyone here do a little research for clear instances of Anthony Hall supporting stances or persons that are clearly antisemitic, or even denying the real holocaust?

The reason I want to put the spotlight on him is two articles on Craig McKee's blog:So I see that Hall has substantially been accused of holocaust denial and anti-semitism, but it doesn't seem to rise to a level to make it legally relevant enough to have him removed from teaching in Canada. Still, it could be substantial enough to call him an anti-semite in the context of our debates here.
But I wish to see evidence.

[ETA]Hall skirts dangerously close to endorsing holocaust denial outright in this interview with "Muslim Press": Tenured Suspended Prof. Tony Hall, The Latest Victim of Zionist Thought Police in Canada[/ETA]. I learn from it that he writes for Iran's Press TV and has attended a conference on CTs and other alt history in Teheran.
[/ETA]



* Hall and Kevin Barrett explicitly mentioned; since this also involves Richard Gage of AE911Truth, I will expand on this incident in a separate post
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)

Last edited by Oystein; 30th May 2017 at 01:51 PM. Reason: ETA as tagged
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 30th May 2017, 01:46 PM   #295
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Now more on this blog post by Craig McKee:

Left Forum caves to Pressure: Bans Panels amid claims Speakers are Holocaust Deniers, Anti-Semites

McKee is a Canadian journalist and 9/11 Truther. He is one of AE911Truth's most prolific writers, and he is co-host of the monthly "9/11 Teleconference Call". He happens to be a proponent of the moronic "NoC / FlyOver" fantasy about the Pentagon event.
I have not seen him write anti-semitic, holocaust-denying dirt outright, but he sure defends the rights of holocaust deniers - or denies they are deniers.

This new blog post tells us this story:

There is an organization called "Left Forum", which will hold some sort of panel discussion event this coming weekend at John Jay College, NYC. Three of the panels have topics on the "Deep State" which, according to CTists like Hall, is responsible for multiple "false flags", including 9/11, Boston, Sandy Hooks...
For panels have now been called off by the organizers:
Quote:
Here are the four panels being censored:
  • “9/11 Truth: Ground Zero for a Resistance Movement,” with speakers Kevin Barrett, Richard Gage, and Barbara Honegger. Moderated by Dr. Lucy Morgan Edwards.
  • “Terrorism”: Fake Enemies, Fraudulent Wars,” with speakers Michael Springmann, Anthony Hall, and Patrick Henningsen. Moderated by Tom Kiely.
  • “False Flags: Staged, Scripted, Mass Psy-Op Events,” with speakers Kevin Barrett, Dave Lindorff, and Ole Dammegard. Moderated by Dr. Lucy Morgan Edwards.
  • “Political Correctness: The Dangers of Thought Crime Police,” with speakers Anthony Hall, Joy Karega, and Jeremy Rothe-Kushel. Moderated by Cheryl Curtiss.
Notice that, once again, Richard Gage of AE911Truth teams up with holocaust denier Kevin Barrett. Notice, too, that Richard Gage, in violation of AE911Truth's alleged policy of only discussing the technical aspects of the WTC collapses, is engaged in highly politicized propaganda ("resistance movement"). With a holocaust denier by his side.

This is a clear and conscious choice. Gage is now on record that his being in bed with a holocaust denier is a serious problem.


There can be no doubt that Gage has decided to be on the side of rabid anti-semitism - whether out of conviction or greed I do not care.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th June 2017, 03:20 PM   #296
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Craig McKee has great love for anti-semites.

New comment on the article I discussed in my last post:
https://truthandshadows.wordpress.co...#comment-47126

Originally Posted by Peter Andersen
June 4, 2017 at 10:13 am
Joseph Sobran put it well: “An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews.”
...

Originally Posted by Craig McKee
June 4, 2017 at 4:51 pm
Absolutely. That’s a great quote.
No, Craig, that is not a great quote.
It's a stupid quote at best, an anti-semitic quote at worst. It speaks of "Jews" in general, as if "Jews" were of the same (and evil) mind. That is a child born of a classic anti-semitic mind.

It's conceiver, Joseph Sobran, was a "paleo-conservative" columnist fired from the conservative National Review by its founder William F. Buckley Jr. for - you guessed it - a series of "contextually anti-Semitic" columns.

Sobran had no problem enabling holocaust deniers like David Irving and white supremacists like Paul Fromm, by gracing their holocaust denying operations like the "Institute for Historical Review" with his presence and defence. Pretending that holocaust denial is a legitimate position.

Craig McKee, likewise, defends holocaust deniers and anti-semites wherever they get their heads slapped.



Today, Craig published a new article by Anthony Hall (see two posts up):

Academic Freedom and Thought Crime Policing: Hall sues University of Lethbridge Administration
In it, Hall talks of the "toxic psychological warfare essential to the expansionary operations of the Zio-American empire"
I will quickly translate this code for you:
Hall claims, in one quick phrase
... that the USA is ruled by Jews
... that this Jewish-rules US regime wages war on the world

This is paleo-antisemitism, clear and simple. And wrong, too.


McKee need to understand that Israel (nor "Zionism", nor "Jews") is NOT behind 9/11. This is a dirty lie conveived and spread by stinking, rabid, anti-semites, some of them holocaust deniers. He needs to stop defending this scum.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th June 2017, 03:23 PM   #297
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
By the way: Hall whines of "censorship". McKee supports this whining.

At the same time, McKee actively censors criticism on his own blog: I am one of several who are banned from commenting because we disagree.
What a hypocritical shmock.
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 27th June 2017, 03:53 PM   #298
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Wayne Coste's "9/11 Truth Action Project" (911TAP) is flirting with anti-semitism, too.

Here is an article by Board member Christopher Gruener:
Become a Member of the TAP Team* (March 30, 2017)
Originally Posted by Chris Gruener
Can you hold a vision wherein, by the end of 2020, our joint generation of 4,000,000+ activists, working in tandem, successfully demands a credible investigation of the 9/11/01 attacks and subsequent appropriate prosecutions of all the American traitors – including those with dual citizenship - who perpetrated those attacks? Together we can do this!
"Dual citizenship" is of course the accepted euphemism among Twoofers and other scum for "Jews". What Gruener actually means is "it is of utmost importance to single out Jews, and only Jews, as traitors".



*If you click on the link at "[NOTE: Find Your Regional Coordinator by clicking on this link.]", you will find that, so far, Gruener is the ONLY "Regional Coordinator" 911TAP has managed to find yet (for the New England region) - all other "Regional Coordinator(s) and Regional Committee are still organizing"
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 30th June 2017, 02:12 PM   #299
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,583
Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
Would you also then classify hero Steve Pieczenik as an antisemite? I'm just curious how paranoid you really are.
That I don't know, but what I do know about him from his own words does not impress me in the least:

http://stevepieczenik.com/loaned-wol...ssman-scalise/

"However, if I had not had an odious experience with the Alexandria/VA State Police, I would not have made mention of it.

A few years ago, I was stopped by an Alexandria Va. police woman who had to check my hand luggage after TSA cleared me through the metal detector. I accidentally carried a weapon on the plane but TSA waved me on so I thought I was in good hands.

My weapon was registered and I had a license to carry any weapons I deemed appropriate. At the time, I was working for DOD gratis so I had a DOD pass to enter the Pentagon. Despite TSA telling the cop I was OKAY she decided to search me in the airport. I laughed to myself, realizing that both stupidity and an overactive ambition are the two virtues of incompetence. She asked me what kind of weapon I was carrying. So I pushed a button and allowed the six inch blade to snap out its Corsican ivory socket. It was a stiletto, a standard weapon that I take with me in all overseas assignments.

The cop knew that but didn’t care. She was under control by a different entity. So I was forced to show up at a hearing of judicial incompetency complete with young inexperienced Va. prosecutor and a mumbling judge. Subsequently, I went to see my lovely probation officer. After a discussion concerning her son’s entrance into the military after 9/11, I advised that he had better opportunities than volunteering for an unnecessary war spurred on by a false flag event. She told me that I should run for president.


The above, and particularly the underlined paragraph would probably impress the hell out of people that have no experience in the subject matter, but having flown with firearms both carried (on official departmental business w/ credentials) and in checked baggage w/o any types of problems, I know what the law is, and what the drill is wrt carrying any type of weapon onto a commercial aircraft.

A concealed carry permit does not mean you can carry on a commercial aircraft, period. Even LE creds do not guarantee an individual will be allowed to carry on board the aircraft - unless they have departmental orders in hand requesting that the officer in question be armed in flight.

Very few situations with anyone other than federal LE will meet that standard.

I've traveled pretty much all over the U.S. and parts of Kentucky doing weapons instruction for other LEA's. Not one time did I carry on board, even though I had a mess of hardware in checked luggage. I have been sent on department business where I was required to carry, and it was prearranged by my agency and I did not go through the normal passenger check-in and boarding procedure. Rule of thumb - if you're going through sop check-in and boarding, you will not be carrying any type of weapon on that flight.

SP's inference that his claimed status w/ DOD grants him carry rights is complete ******** too.

His worst assertion above, which really tells the tale about what level of douchebag this guy is, is the reference to this So I pushed a button and allowed the six inch blade to snap out its Corsican ivory socket. It was a stiletto, a standard weapon that I take with me in all overseas assignments."

Thread I started in 2013 - I have a genetic predisposition...To collecting useless Italian knives

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=261442

Italian Stilettos may be interesting gee-gaws from a historical interest viewpoint or as a relic of the Great Juvenile Delinquent scare of the early 1950's, but what they aren't are any type of professional tool. The vintage knives don't even feature heat treated blade steel - they won't hold any type of edge. This is a subject I have over 50 years of experience in. These knives are not anything other than interesting decorative items.

If a guy were to show up in my circle carrying a stiletto for use as anything more serious than a letter opener, he would never be allowed to forget it - his agates would be broken at every opportunity, in perpetuity.

SP carries a stiletto? Overseas assignments?

100% fantasist douchbag.
__________________
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Col. Jeff Cooper, U.S.M.C.

"Dulce bellum inexpertīs." - Erasmus
BStrong is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 30th June 2017, 03:53 PM   #300
Elagabalus
Graduate Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,840
Here's something from 2011:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=208519
Elagabalus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 12:34 AM   #301
Cosmic Yak
Graduate Poster
 
Cosmic Yak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.
Posts: 1,878
Corsican ivory from Corsican elephants? Sounds legit to me.
__________________
Fortuna Faveat Fatuis
Cosmic Yak is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 06:37 AM   #302
Pinch
Critical Thinker
 
Pinch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 380
Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Corsican ivory from Corsican elephants? Sounds legit to me.
Silly Cosmic Yak. Everyone knows Corsican ivory comes from the tusk of the Corsican walrus.
__________________
"There's this thing about being so "open minded" your brain falls out". --Unknown
Pinch is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 06:42 AM   #303
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
That I don't know, but what I do know about him from his own words does not impress me in the least:

http://stevepieczenik.com/loaned-wol...ssman-scalise/

...

The above, and particularly the underlined paragraph would probably impress the hell out of people that have no experience in the subject matter, but having flown with firearms both carried (on official departmental business w/ credentials) and in checked baggage w/o any types of problems, I know what the law is, and what the drill is wrt carrying any type of weapon onto a commercial aircraft.
...
SP carries a stiletto? Overseas assignments?

100% fantasist douchbag.
Most interesting and original post in this subforum in months!
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 01:23 PM   #304
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,583
Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Corsican ivory from Corsican elephants? Sounds legit to me.
"Corsican" is strictly a term of art wrt Italian automatic Stilettos - there are medieval fixed blade stilettos that have been documented as originating in Corsica but the modern (1930's on) automatic stilettos are primarily manufactured in Maniago, Italy.
__________________
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Col. Jeff Cooper, U.S.M.C.

"Dulce bellum inexpertīs." - Erasmus
BStrong is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 01:24 PM   #305
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,583
Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
Most interesting and original post in this subforum in months!
Thank you! coming from you I take it as high praise.
__________________
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Col. Jeff Cooper, U.S.M.C.

"Dulce bellum inexpertīs." - Erasmus
BStrong is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 1st July 2017, 03:45 PM   #306
trustbutverify
Philosopher
 
trustbutverify's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 7,011
Originally Posted by trustbutverify View Post
Ah Pieczenik, the man with the invented...well...everything. Don't hear much about him anymore.
Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
That I don't know, but what I do know about him from his own words does not impress me in the least:

http://stevepieczenik.com/loaned-wol...ssman-scalise/

"However, if I had not had an odious experience with the Alexandria/VA State Police, I would not have made mention of it.

A few years ago, I was stopped by an Alexandria Va. police woman who had to check my hand luggage after TSA cleared me through the metal detector. I accidentally carried a weapon on the plane but TSA waved me on so I thought I was in good hands.

My weapon was registered and I had a license to carry any weapons I deemed appropriate. At the time, I was working for DOD gratis so I had a DOD pass to enter the Pentagon. Despite TSA telling the cop I was OKAY she decided to search me in the airport. I laughed to myself, realizing that both stupidity and an overactive ambition are the two virtues of incompetence. She asked me what kind of weapon I was carrying. So I pushed a button and allowed the six inch blade to snap out its Corsican ivory socket. It was a stiletto, a standard weapon that I take with me in all overseas assignments.

The cop knew that but didn’t care. She was under control by a different entity. So I was forced to show up at a hearing of judicial incompetency complete with young inexperienced Va. prosecutor and a mumbling judge. Subsequently, I went to see my lovely probation officer. After a discussion concerning her son’s entrance into the military after 9/11, I advised that he had better opportunities than volunteering for an unnecessary war spurred on by a false flag event. She told me that I should run for president.


The above, and particularly the underlined paragraph would probably impress the hell out of people that have no experience in the subject matter, but having flown with firearms both carried (on official departmental business w/ credentials) and in checked baggage w/o any types of problems, I know what the law is, and what the drill is wrt carrying any type of weapon onto a commercial aircraft.

A concealed carry permit does not mean you can carry on a commercial aircraft, period. Even LE creds do not guarantee an individual will be allowed to carry on board the aircraft - unless they have departmental orders in hand requesting that the officer in question be armed in flight.

Very few situations with anyone other than federal LE will meet that standard.

I've traveled pretty much all over the U.S. and parts of Kentucky doing weapons instruction for other LEA's. Not one time did I carry on board, even though I had a mess of hardware in checked luggage. I have been sent on department business where I was required to carry, and it was prearranged by my agency and I did not go through the normal passenger check-in and boarding procedure. Rule of thumb - if you're going through sop check-in and boarding, you will not be carrying any type of weapon on that flight.

SP's inference that his claimed status w/ DOD grants him carry rights is complete ******** too.

His worst assertion above, which really tells the tale about what level of douchebag this guy is, is the reference to this So I pushed a button and allowed the six inch blade to snap out its Corsican ivory socket. It was a stiletto, a standard weapon that I take with me in all overseas assignments."

Thread I started in 2013 - I have a genetic predisposition...To collecting useless Italian knives

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=261442

Italian Stilettos may be interesting gee-gaws from a historical interest viewpoint or as a relic of the Great Juvenile Delinquent scare of the early 1950's, but what they aren't are any type of professional tool. The vintage knives don't even feature heat treated blade steel - they won't hold any type of edge. This is a subject I have over 50 years of experience in. These knives are not anything other than interesting decorative items.

If a guy were to show up in my circle carrying a stiletto for use as anything more serious than a letter opener, he would never be allowed to forget it - his agates would be broken at every opportunity, in perpetuity.

SP carries a stiletto? Overseas assignments?

100% fantasist douchbag.
Even worse than I thought, hard as that is to believe.
__________________
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Wollen owns the stage
trustbutverify is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 3rd July 2017, 08:19 PM   #307
BStrong
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,583
Originally Posted by trustbutverify View Post
Even worse than I thought, hard as that is to believe.
He should start a consulting firm consisting of himself, Tosh Plumlee, L. Fletcher Prouty (I know he's dead, just throw his name on the masthead) John Lear, Donn De Grand Pre and Jesse Ventura.

The ideal name? F3-I2 (Fakers, Fantasists and Frauds) Interstellar International.
__________________
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Col. Jeff Cooper, U.S.M.C.

"Dulce bellum inexpertīs." - Erasmus
BStrong is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 8th October 2017, 05:46 PM   #308
Oystein
Penultimate Amazing
 
Oystein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 15,395
Rudy Dent has a new (late September 2017) Facebook page - guess his old one got deleted by Zuckerberg's henchmen.

This time, he is not posting daily swasticas and Hitler love-letters, but still the overtly antisemitic stuff:

e.g. Benjamin Franklin misattribution

And here his antisemtic credo:
https://www.facebook.com/rudy.dent.1...7D&pnref=story
Originally Posted by Rudy Dent
I'm talking about a tribal allegiance that is not a race and is not a real religion that is,.. if our understanding of religions is based on belief systems that embrace common decency and humane core values that propose consistent respect for all people and are based on love and compassion?

We now know that there is a group who has no allegiance to any country its members may have been sheltered or born in. This group has adopted a known religion they have no genetic ties to, no DNA connection to and are impostors who even have its most extreme orthodox members believing its own lies, while they too are exploited by the knowing guiding evil that sets their agenda for the parasitical ultimate domination of the world by the most diabolical pure evil that acknowledgement of is beyond the average minds ability to comprehend.

These Masters of Cunning and Deception, make up just over 2% of America's population and is based on pure lies and a flipped script of history. They own and control America, England and Israel, their most important funding and influence comes from their Banksters and their illegal usury debt slavery along with its ability to buy Politicians.

They instigated, orchestrated and are still profiting from WWII.

Any clue as to who and what I am talking about?

What I am talking about is a racist hate cult that has been kicked out of over 109 countries.

I am also talking about a cult that has cleverly used its unscrupulous control of the Main Stream Media, Hollywood, our former Government and our Educational school systems to flip the script against facts and reality with straw man arguments implanted in everyone's heads that have been brainwashed to respond to any subject they deem taboo. If anyone who is or is not part of this tribe dares to speak out, or expose its scams they are met with a condemning, shaming, pious indignant sadly predictable knee jerk reactionary response.

Then the unprepared targets are labeled with well-known shameful hate loaded words that render them a social pariah because we have all been the victims of 24/7 lifelong indoctrination of their propaganda.

Now what specific group am I talking about, which with a little independent research can be verified by their most articulate and arrogant leaders?

In today's world ignorance is a choice!

“Read everything, listen to everybody, and don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research”

If America is ever to be a free nation again, its citizens must first free their minds! An educated mind is unfit to be a slave!

"...the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent." - J. Edgar Hoover [The Elks Magazine (August 1956)]

“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote)
Oystein is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories » 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:57 AM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2014, TribeTech AB. All Rights Reserved.
This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.