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Old 26th July 2010, 01:43 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by Fonebone View Post
Hmmmm--- not the first time my links have been corrupted--mox nix

here is the link url and the naked address to cut and poste if necessary

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Also Google "911 mural van police audio " and similar variations for additional links.
The url is working so cut and paste if necessary--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWQx...ext=1&index=37
Thanks . working fine now.
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Old 26th July 2010, 08:06 PM   #242
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repaired and working link appears to be broken again

Originally Posted by bill smith View Post
Thanks . working fine now.
-Fonebone< could you try the working link again-Seems to be broken once again
Paranormal gremlins ?? Or JREF skullduggery ...
Cut and paste link to prove youtube link integrity
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Old 27th July 2010, 02:03 AM   #243
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What are the finest examples of 9/ll Truther stupidity that you've ever encountered?
Bill Smith and Fonebone trying to figure out how to get a YouTube link working.

Keep it up guys, great skit!
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Old 27th July 2010, 02:34 AM   #244
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WRONG ! All of the UHAUL landscapes graphics had their brand red horizontal stripe
behind in the background of every scene used in the UHAUL entire graphic series of landscapes.
I cannot locate single truck without this broad stripe that spans the length of
the vehicles.
So the U-Haul New York mural would have had the New York Skyline, the Twin Towers, a non-descript airplane and a big red band.

What's your point here, Fonebone? You appear to be implying that the presence of a red band prevents one from drawing a picture of the Twin Towers and an airplane.

That's bloody retarded, even for a truther.

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This utube video with a nyc police radio/audio states the van with the WTC tower commercial jet mural
was filled with explosives and they requested the bomb squad.
The police officer states the van occupants fled but were captured .
Then the officer states the van exploded.
And where did this happen?
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Old 28th July 2010, 03:57 AM   #245
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You know these guys have to think 9/11 was an inside job.

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Old 28th July 2010, 04:47 AM   #246
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I posted this earlier, but boy - you have to follow the thread through 10 pages and see how ant-Semitic Jim Fetzer is, how he just self-promotes himself, repeats what he thinks is right, ignores evidence that contradicts him, attacks anyone who disagrees with him, won't debate factors he's called on and... well, you name it, he does it.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...ic=16026&st=90

The guy is a grade A buffoon. Someone mentions that they like how he thinks outside the box. That may be admirable at times, but Fetzer is not just outside the box, he's left the planet and heading off into space.
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Old 28th July 2010, 05:09 AM   #247
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Someone mentions that they like how he thinks outside the box.
They like the fact that he thinks outside the box, or they like the way that he thinks outside the box?

Fetzer has got to be one of the most deluded people on the planet. How can someone who teaches critical thinking to our next generation of youth have such a slippery grasp of logic?

"You need a credit card to do that!!!!"

Sheesh.
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Old 28th July 2010, 07:31 AM   #248
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Sometimes the 'box' is there for a reason.
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Old 28th July 2010, 12:14 PM   #249
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.....Fetzer is not just outside the box, he's left the planet and heading off into space.

On one of his "radio" shows, I heard Fetzer interviewing Judy Wood. When asked by a caller during the phone-in section "why did the people jump" [from the WTC towers]? She answered that it was probably because they thought it was their best chance, that they thought they would be caught by nets on helicopters. Fetzer did not offer any alternative to counter this.

Also (it might have been the same show) another caller offered the scenario that the jumpers may have been thrown out by teams of "black ops". It's enough to know that Fetzer failed to castigate this caller for the idiocy.

I am on a yahoo mailing list that Fetzer regularly contributes to where he is often held to task about his views on 9/11. (FETZERclaimsDEBUNK@yahoogroups.com). He now tries to distance himself from his previous affiliations with Jones, Wood, Rosalee Grable et al. I must admit I have some fun reminding him of his previous endorsements of the more nutty aspects of those peoples "research". The mailing list is rather quiet at the moment but if anyone here would like to sign up just pop in and say hello.

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Old 28th July 2010, 03:17 PM   #250
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I just had a truther tell me that since I wasn't personally involved in the construction and subsequent investigation of WTC7 and it's collapse, then I am just taking NIST on "faith" and couldn't possible know what "really" happened!

No! Really! He thinks NIST and the entire engineering community is faith based!

But then he did mention that he had 1200 professionals to support his claims!

Oy vay!
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I just had a truther tell me that since I wasn't personally involved in the construction and subsequent investigation of WTC7 and it's collapse, then I am just taking NIST on "faith" and couldn't possible know what "really" happened!
So...how would he/she know anything?
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So...how would he/she know anything?
*Head asplodes*
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It's a train wreck, isn't it?
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Old 29th July 2010, 10:13 PM   #254
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I just had a truther tell me that since I wasn't personally involved in the construction and subsequent investigation of WTC7 and it's collapse, then I am just taking NIST on "faith" and couldn't possible know what "really" happened!

Response: "Oh! I didn't realize you were personally involved in the construction and investigation of WTC7. My bad."
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Old 30th July 2010, 03:39 AM   #255
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So...how would he/she know anything?
Oh it's the ususal illogic. Everything he learns from some unsubstantiated truther website is obviously true and everything I learn from qualified scientific investigations supported by the engineering community means I'm a mindless govt-following sheep!

I'd point out the irony to him but then I would have to explain to him what irony means!
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Originally Posted by cantonear1968 View Post
Oh it's the ususal illogic. Everything he learns from some unsubstantiated truther website is obviously true and everything I learn from qualified scientific investigations supported by the engineering community means I'm a mindless govt-following sheep!

I'd point out the irony to him but then I would have to explain to him what irony means!
I remember well when Gravy went to the Loose Change forums and made a post showing that there was just as much evidence that the space shuttle disaster was the result of a conspiracy as there was for 9/11.

The attempt at satire backfired, as all the truthers responded, "Hey, you're right! I never thought of that! The gubment DID blow up the space shuttle!"
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I remember well when Gravy went to the Loose Change forums and made a post showing that there was just as much evidence that the space shuttle disaster was the result of a conspiracy as there was for 9/11.

The attempt at satire backfired, as all the truthers responded, "Hey, you're right! I never thought of that! The gubment DID blow up the space shuttle!"
many of them want to see conspiracies in everything.
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many of them want to see conspiracies in everything.
Bingo!

And if you look hard enough for anything (and suspend logical thought), you will find it!
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Originally Posted by cantonear1968 View Post
Bingo!

And if you look hard enough for anything (and suspend logical thought), you will find it!
I work with a Truther, and he recently went on and on on how 'the government deliberatly detonated the levies in New Orleans'. Apparently he felt the levies were deliberatly bombed during hurricane Katrina.

And your proof would be...? I asked.

His answer was 'It's obvious'.
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His answer was 'It's obvious'.
Ah! The truther school of scientific investigation!

"I don't need science to tell me what my preconceived bias can!"
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Bill Smith claiming that the Jref 911 sub-forum is the very "heart of the OCT propaganda machine". LMAO!!! Now that is a great example of 911 nutjob stupidity.
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Bill Smith claiming that the Jref 911 sub-forum is the very "heart of the OCT propaganda machine". LMAO!!! Now that is a great example of 911 nutjob stupidity.
No,it is a great example of an attention seeking troll.Hasn't that sunk in yet?
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No,it is a great example of an attention seeking troll.Hasn't that sunk in yet?
What makes you think he's not just another 911 drone?
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What makes you think he's not just another 911 drone?
The two are not mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite.
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Bill Smith and Fonebone trying to figure out how to get a YouTube link working.

Keep it up guys, great skit!
Monkeys/football.
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Bill Smith claiming that the Jref 911 sub-forum is the very "heart of the OCT propaganda machine". LMAO!!! Now that is a great example of 911 nutjob stupidity.
Yeah, JREF is the place where they will bring the entire NWO to a grinding halt!
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I remember well when Gravy went to the Loose Change forums and made a post showing that there was just as much evidence that the space shuttle disaster was the result of a conspiracy as there was for 9/11.

The attempt at satire backfired, as all the truthers responded, "Hey, you're right! I never thought of that! The gubment DID blow up the space shuttle!"
That is pure an utter bs.

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That is pure an utter bs.

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That is pure an utter bs.

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Bare assertion fallacy.

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Tanabear, the banned, banned and re-banned Last Child, Deep44 and RedIbis all take a hard turn into idiotsville in this old thread over their inability to grasp the subtle concept of "AND".

("Furi" wins the thread at post #18, IMO.)
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I think the "Realistice" (SP?) thread wins, hands down. Or anything posted by Stundie!
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I think the "Realistice" (SP?) thread wins, hands down. Or anything posted by Stundie!
I think Jammy's unending no-planer rant in in class by itself..
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I think Jammy's unending no-planer rant in in class by itself..
Which appears to be turning "realistice" on its own.
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What a strange thread...
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This is my answer to Truthers everywhere:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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I think Jammy's unending no-planer rant in in class by itself..
Oh yeah, this is very true. It's a whole different kind of retarded.

Did you ever get to experience P'doh? He was quite amusing.....
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Unca Fetz can't even admit he is wrong about the Payne Stewart "20 minute intercept" nonsense. The best he can do is say that although the weight of evidence 'suggests' his memory is faulty, and that he finds it peculiar!

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I actually don't want this thread to stop. It's too much fun!

Just found another one:

"you can blab on about what truthers dont want to discuss, then tell me how gravity vaporizes half a steel building? And dont say it didnt vaporize because its obvious micro fine particals covered manhatten like a *********** volcano went off, and face it there was no large section of building left, the should of been WHOLE Floors left if it was gravity, THATS THE ONE THING YOU CLOWNS CANT EXPLAIN and is the only reason i know it was A NUCLEARS DEMO, please dont complain about radiation you ignat"

Yup! The building vapoized and there were no large pices found! Everything at Fresh Kills was simply a holographic image and everyone around GZ apparently died from radiation poisoning!

Oh wait! He added this:

"I never said it didnt give off any radiation just not that much"

I love stupid truthers who make things up on the fly! They make me smile!

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I actually don't want this thread to stop. It's too much fun!

Just found another one:

"you can blab on about what truthers dont want to discuss, then tell me how gravity vaporizes half a steel building? And dont say it didnt vaporize because its obvious micro fine particals covered manhatten like a *********** volcano went off, and face it there was no large section of building left, the should of been WHOLE Floors left if it was gravity, THATS THE ONE THING YOU CLOWNS CANT EXPLAIN and is the only reason i know it was A NUCLEARS DEMO, please dont complain about radiation you ignat"

Yup! The building vapoized and there were no large pices found! Everything at Fresh Kills was simply a holographic image and everyone around GZ apparently died from radiation poisoning!

Oh wait! He added this:

"I never said it didnt give off any radiation just not that much"

I love stupid truthers who make things up on the fly! They make me smile!
Something they never seem to be able to grasp is that high-energy explosions are nothing like what they show in the movies, with the slowly expanding, billowing balls of flame that the heroes can easily outrun. A true explosion has a shock wave that moves with frightening speed.

No amount of links to videos of real explosions can make them understand the difference.

ETA: This guy must have assumed they used one of the small nukes from "Starship Troopers". The heroes DID outrun the blast from one of those, and were protected by ducking around a corner!
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Something they never seem to be able to grasp is that high-energy explosions are nothing like what they show in the movies, with the slowly expanding, billowing balls of flame that the heroes can easily outrun. A true explosion has a shock wave that moves with frightening speed.

No amount of links to videos of real explosions can make them understand the difference.

ETA: This guy must have assumed they used one of the small nukes from "Starship Troopers". The heroes DID outrun the blast from one of those, and were protected by ducking around a corner!
I haven't engaged this guy myself yet, but I plan on asking him how a buildings can be "vaporized" yet do little damage to the buildings surrounding it. I mean, someone more versed than I in nuclear yields can give an accurate account of the damage from this, but I would have to guess that the energy required to "vaporize" a bulding would have to reduce to rubble most of Lower Manhattan!

These guys! They throw around terms with no understanding of their meaning. "Vaporize"!!?? As in, pass through a solid to a liquid to a gaseous state! And no damage to surrounding buildings! And how, exactly, does a nuclear device destroy a building top down!!??

And Gage is no better! Not nuclear but conventional explosives "pulverized" the concrete in mid air! Do they have absolutley no concept of the energy required to do this and what it does to the area around it? How does a blast wave reach the outer most part of the buildings and stop?
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