 |
|
|
|
|
||||||||
| Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today. |
2nd May 2017, 11:18 AM
|
#81 |
|
Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,531
|
Originally Posted by beachnut;11822110
|
|
__________________
Can you people please stop not thinking? - Gorgonian The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. -Good luck America with President Trump |
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 11:17 AM
|
#82 | |||||||||
|
Muse
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 861
|
AE911Truth: The Excuse Dam has Broken
Got this yesterday via email.
 Call for Professional Integrity Goes Unheeded Faced with Historic Opportunity to Ask for New WTC 7 Investigation, Architects Vote ‘No’ Representatives of the American Institute of Architects’ local and national governing bodies voted overwhelmingly against supporting a new investigation into the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) at the Institute’s annual business meeting held in Orlando on April 26, 2017. Resolution 17-5, which was sponsored by 70 AIA members — and which initially had the backing of more than 200 members before the AIA introduced a rule late in the process that required handwritten signatures from sponsors — garnered 4% of the vote from delegates. The 4% tally was a setback to concerned AIA members and activists who had hoped to continue the upward trajectory that saw support for a reinvestigation grow from 4% in 2015 to 11% last year. Lack of Will Drives Most Delegates In spite of powerful remarks by architects William Prevatel, David Mack, and Richard Gage, who urged their fellow members to follow their conscience, most of the 400+ delegates in attendance voted against putting the AIA on record as supporting a new investigation. The question is, “Why?”
The tepidly-worded position issued by the AIA’s board of directors — identical to last year’s position — was that WTC 7’s collapse “has been investigated thoroughly by competent authorities with reasonable conclusions.” But our interviews after the business meeting with two-dozen delegates who had voted “no” told a different story. The vast majority of these delegates indicated no disagreement with the argument that WTC 7 did not collapse from fire. In fact, nearly half of them agreed that it was likely — if not completely evident — that WTC 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition. Nonetheless, most of them voted “no” because, as they put it, this was an issue the AIA should not take on. “It’s not our responsibility as architects,” some said. Others felt it was time to move on. One of those who agreed that WTC 7 was demolished said he thought it would have little impact if the AIA took a stand on the issue. Perhaps most unsettling, though, were the few architects who said they simply didn’t care. The air of indifference was in stark contrast to the feelings we met with two years ago when openly hostile opponents labeled us “conspiracy theorists” and last year when there was a noticeable groundswell of support at AE911Truth’s expo booth, which manifested itself in 11% voting “yes.” Our efforts this year were clearly hampered by two factors: the AIA’s decision to deny AE911Truth an expo booth and the fact that the business meeting was held before the convention rather than on the final day of it. The schedule change gave us no chance to communicate our message on the expo floor (with or without a booth) and resulted in fewer rank-and-file members attending the business meeting (10% fewer votes were cast this year). The Message Is Getting Out — So What’s Next? Although the outcome of this year’s vote was disappointing, our resolution campaigns over the past three years have nevertheless accomplished a great deal. Thousands in the local and national AIA leadership are now unmistakably aware of the questions surrounding the collapse of WTC 7. They have been given numerous chances to act courageously on their newfound awareness. History will not look kindly on the professionals who shrank from these opportunities. Over the next six months, we will double down on our efforts to educate the architecture profession through our continuing education courses, which AIA and non-AIA architects can earn learning units for taking. We will also now be able to shift much of our energy and resources to promoting the WTC 7 computer modeling study being conducted at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. It is our hope that the WTC 7 study, which is scheduled to be released in August, will cause a tectonic shift within the engineering community and will attract significant media coverage. As those efforts evolve — and after surveying the AIA members who sponsored this year’s resolution — we will revisit the question of whether to spearhead a fourth resolution campaign. In the meantime, we’d love to have your input on how we should continue to move the fight forward. We also invite you to donate toward our work. After all, we can continue the march forward only if we have your ideas and your support. We at AE911Truth are sincerely grateful to all the dedicated activists who’ve donated to our AIA resolution campaigns and to all the courageous architects who’ve participated in them. |
|||||||||
|
__________________
Ergo beedunked here. #FalseFlagCluelessAtPhysics. Skeptical Inquirer July/August 2011 issue on 9/11 Truth |
||||||||||
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 12:21 PM
|
#83 |
|
Critical Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 432
|
Originally Posted by DaveThomasNMSR
Looks like they are putting all their chips on the Hulsey study at this point. Too bad for them it has shaped up to be a biased sham that will not even be subjected to independent peer review. I haven't seen a single truther actually even try to defend (1) the fact that Hulsey public stated a conclusion prior to his team finishing the work necessary to reach that conclusion, or (2) the fact that Hulsey has now publicly admitted that the study was extremely limited in scope, only focusing on certain aspects of the NIST report, and thus it was impossible for him to have reached a broad conclusion re the "impossibility" of a fire induced collapse, in any event. |
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 02:56 PM
|
#84 |
|
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 13,842
|
Originally Posted by DaveThomasNMSR
https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/...54436966186269 Will Gage man up and return his AIA membership? |
|
__________________
Thermodynamics hates conspiracy theorists. (Foster Zygote) |
|
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 03:04 PM
|
#85 |
|
Skeptic not Atheist
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West of Northshore MA
Posts: 23,974
|
Originally Posted by Oystein
He's not so, He will proudly display his AIA badge and frown when they catch him using it to advance his cause (making him take the logo down). |
|
__________________
"Remember that the goal of conspiracy rhetoric is to bog down the discussion, not to make progress toward a solution" Jay Windley "How many leaves on the seventh branch of the fourth tree?" is meaningless when you are in the wrong forest: ozeco41 |
|
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 07:59 PM
|
#86 |
|
Critical Thinker
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 432
|
Here is Gage's speech to the AIA at the convention in support of his resolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kusdpR7xaU
To his credit, though he watered down the resolution to hide AE911Truth's actual views on the collapse, he does not so water down his comments. To his discredit, the speech is the same tired collection of easily disproven analogies and conclusory statements we've seen for years. In any case, the vote tells the tale of how well this was received. |
|
|
|
|
3rd May 2017, 10:27 PM
|
#88 |
|
Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Spain
Posts: 3,203
|
Originally Posted by DaveThomasNMSR
Code:
SEND + MORE --------- MONEY |
|
__________________
Ask questions. Demand answers. But be prepared to accept the answers, or don't ask questions in the first place. |
|
|
|
|
 |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
|
|
