2024 Election Thread - Page 11

Tero · 27th November 2023, 02:03 PM

Republicans have never been better for the financial situtation of the voter. It was always fear that got them elected.

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Economic growth? Going back to Franklin Roosevelt, the four presidents who logged the biggest growth in gross domestic product
were, in declining order, the Democrats Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton, according to a February New York Times infographic by David Leonhardt and Yaryna Serkez. Three of the four presidents who logged the smallest GDP growth were Republicans. (The exception was Harry Truman. The other three were George Bush père et fils and, in last place, Donald Trump.)

Job creation? The six presidents with the fastest job-growth rate (per Leonhardt and Serkez) were the Democrats Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter, Truman, Kennedy, and Clinton. The four presidents who
logged the slowest job-growth rate were all Republicans (Eisenhower; the two Bushes; and, again in last place, Trump, the only president in the past nine decades to lose more jobs than he created).

The deficit? Democrats are spendthrifts, right? Wrong. President Ronald Reagan inherited from Jimmy Carter a deficit of $78.9 billion, according to Politifact. When he left office, it was $152.6 billion. When his successor, President George H.W. Bush, left office, it was $255 billion.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1662...s-vs-democrats

Brainster · 27th November 2023, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Tero

Republicans have never been better for the financial situtation of the voter. It was always fear that got them elected.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1662...s-vs-democrats

Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this:

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To be fair, the Obama increase in median household income continued under Trump. But on an inflation-adjusted basis, it started falling about halfway through Trump’s final year in office.

Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.

Gulliver Foyle · 29th November 2023, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Irony? It's not a word you'll hear on the BBC or find in Merriam-Webster

Plural of bonus.

Tero · 29th November 2023, 02:02 PM

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Let’s Stop Treating Polls as Actual News Events

polls.... become news events unto themselves, generating reams of coverage and endless commentary. They’re not actually breaking news events, like, say, a train derailment, even if treated as such. They’re more creations of a media industrial complex that longs for easy data points, for things that feel like facts but are actually imprecise measuring mechanisms.
“But they’re also subject to a lot of measurement error,” Morris continued. “Only about one out of every 100 people a pollster calls picks up the phone. Those respondents can be really weird, politically speaking, and are also prone to overreacting to the news cycle. This means we need to be even more careful when reading into a single poll’s results.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023...rump-joe-biden

Dr. Keith · 29th November 2023, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.

That was when he finally unveiled his plan to fix the healthcare system. Or was that two weeks later.

The Great Zaganza · 30th November 2023, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this:

Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.

I remember how, just before Trump's inauguration, the US economy was in shambles, unemployed through the roof, deficit skyrocketing - but all that change the moment trump was sworn in ...
At least, that was what right-wing outlets and Trump told us.

What DID happen under Trump is indeed an explosion of the deficit, despite running on a platform to eliminate not just the deficit, but the entire debt.

Not sure if "amusing" is the term for people who keep on supporting someone like this.

dirtywick · 30th November 2023, 03:10 AM

i was looking forward to doing my taxes on a postcard. all i got was cuts that already expired. but i think that was after the healthcare plan and infrastructure week. must have ran out of sharpie.

dirtywick · 30th November 2023, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.

are you talking about that hoax?

Gulliver Foyle · 1st December 2023, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this:

Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.

I had a relative over visiting in 2018 who was a supporter of T****y. He openly admitted that T****y was bad for the country and that he only supported T****y because the tax cuts were good for his investments.

Pity you can't display thehonesty of my cousin, scrote that he is.

Tero · 1st December 2023, 07:46 AM

Reminder that Trump won 3 states by less thatn 1% and that the 2024 election is likely to be the same, one way or another. Except Trump 2024 is not Trump 2016. he has got more repetitive and annoying. For rallies the stand up material is the same, just new targets for his hate, judeges.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...&utm_medium=s1

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And a third theory: Biden’s bad numbers will get better — voters aren’t even paying much attention yet, and as the campaign gears up, the president will bounce back.

smartcooky · Today, 03:57 AM

I got sent this by an American friend this weekend. Its a bit politically whimsical, but its overall sentiment is valid...

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE CONSERVATIVE

Joe gets up for work and fills his kettle with water to prepare his morning tea. The water is clean and safe because some tree-hugger fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swig, he takes his daily medication. His medicine is safe to take, because some stupid commie fought to ensure their safety, and that they work as advertised.

He prepares his bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some libtard fought for laws to regulate the meatpacking industry.

In his morning shower, Joe reaches for the shampoo. His bottle is labelled with each ingredient because some hippie crybaby fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist whackjob fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

Joe drives to work in his car. Its safe to drive because some meddling do-gooders fought for more safety features and standards.

Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, pension, paternity leave, paid holidays and sick pay because some union layabouts fought for these working standards.

Joe injures himself at work and has to go to hospital. He receives treatment fully paid for by his affiliated insurance provider because some radical left-wing liberals created the Affordable Care Act.

Joe gets home and relaxes as he watches Fox News on TV. The hosts never mention that the Conservatives have fought against and voted against every protection and benefit Joe enjoyed throughout his day, and they remind everyone that socialists are dangerous and are destroying the country.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

Joe finds it wonderful to live in such blissful ignorance?

27th November 2023, 02:03 PM	#401
Tero Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 3,268	Republicans have never been better for the financial situtation of the voter. It was always fear that got them elected. Quote: Economic growth? Going back to Franklin Roosevelt, the four presidents who logged the biggest growth in gross domestic product were, in declining order, the Democrats Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton, according to a February New York Times infographic by David Leonhardt and Yaryna Serkez. Three of the four presidents who logged the smallest GDP growth were Republicans. (The exception was Harry Truman. The other three were George Bush père et fils and, in last place, Donald Trump.) Job creation? The six presidents with the fastest job-growth rate (per Leonhardt and Serkez) were the Democrats Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter, Truman, Kennedy, and Clinton. The four presidents who logged the slowest job-growth rate were all Republicans (Eisenhower; the two Bushes; and, again in last place, Trump, the only president in the past nine decades to lose more jobs than he created). The deficit? Democrats are spendthrifts, right? Wrong. President Ronald Reagan inherited from Jimmy Carter a deficit of $78.9 billion, according to Politifact. When he left office, it was $152.6 billion. When his successor, President George H.W. Bush, left office, it was $255 billion. https://newrepublic.com/article/1662...s-vs-democrats
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27th November 2023, 02:31 PM	#402
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 20,303	Originally Posted by Tero Republicans have never been better for the financial situtation of the voter. It was always fear that got them elected. https://newrepublic.com/article/1662...s-vs-democrats Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this: Quote: To be fair, the Obama increase in median household income continued under Trump. But on an inflation-adjusted basis, it started falling about halfway through Trump’s final year in office. Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison.
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29th November 2023, 06:32 AM	#403
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,833	Originally Posted by GlennB Irony? It's not a word you'll hear on the BBC or find in Merriam-Webster Plural of bonus.
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29th November 2023, 02:02 PM	#404
Tero Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 3,268	Quote: Let’s Stop Treating Polls as Actual News Events polls.... become news events unto themselves, generating reams of coverage and endless commentary. They’re not actually breaking news events, like, say, a train derailment, even if treated as such. They’re more creations of a media industrial complex that longs for easy data points, for things that feel like facts but are actually imprecise measuring mechanisms. “But they’re also subject to a lot of measurement error,” Morris continued. “Only about one out of every 100 people a pollster calls picks up the phone. Those respondents can be really weird, politically speaking, and are also prone to overreacting to the news cycle. This means we need to be even more careful when reading into a single poll’s results.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023...rump-joe-biden
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29th November 2023, 02:44 PM	#405
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,723	Originally Posted by Brainster Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison. That was when he finally unveiled his plan to fix the healthcare system. Or was that two weeks later.
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30th November 2023, 12:05 AM	#406
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Photo Contest Winner Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 21,601	Originally Posted by Brainster Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this: Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison. I remember how, just before Trump's inauguration, the US economy was in shambles, unemployed through the roof, deficit skyrocketing - but all that change the moment trump was sworn in ... At least, that was what right-wing outlets and Trump told us. What DID happen under Trump is indeed an explosion of the deficit, despite running on a platform to eliminate not just the deficit, but the entire debt. Not sure if "amusing" is the term for people who keep on supporting someone like this.
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30th November 2023, 03:10 AM	#407
dirtywick Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,122	i was looking forward to doing my taxes on a postcard. all i got was cuts that already expired. but i think that was after the healthcare plan and infrastructure week. must have ran out of sharpie.
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30th November 2023, 03:11 AM	#408
dirtywick Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,122	Originally Posted by Brainster Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison. are you talking about that hoax?
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1st December 2023, 03:19 AM	#409
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,833	Originally Posted by Brainster Laughable attempt at analysis. I particularly was amused at this: Hmmm, about halfway through Trump's final year in office? Was there something else happening at that time? Ditto with the employment comparison. I had a relative over visiting in 2018 who was a supporter of T**y. He openly admitted that Ty was bad for the country and that he only supported T**y because the tax cuts were good for his investments. Pity you can't display thehonesty of my cousin, scrote that he is.
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1st December 2023, 07:46 AM	#410
Tero Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 3,268	Reminder that Trump won 3 states by less thatn 1% and that the 2024 election is likely to be the same, one way or another. Except Trump 2024 is not Trump 2016. he has got more repetitive and annoying. For rallies the stand up material is the same, just new targets for his hate, judeges. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023...&utm_medium=s1 Quote: And a third theory: Biden’s bad numbers will get better — voters aren’t even paying much attention yet, and as the campaign gears up, the president will bounce back.
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Today, 03:57 AM	#411
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 24,829	I got sent this by an American friend this weekend. Its a bit politically whimsical, but its overall sentiment is valid... A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE CONSERVATIVE Joe gets up for work and fills his kettle with water to prepare his morning tea. The water is clean and safe because some tree-hugger fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swig, he takes his daily medication. His medicine is safe to take, because some stupid commie fought to ensure their safety, and that they work as advertised. He prepares his bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some libtard fought for laws to regulate the meatpacking industry. In his morning shower, Joe reaches for the shampoo. His bottle is labelled with each ingredient because some hippie crybaby fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist whackjob fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. Joe drives to work in his car. Its safe to drive because some meddling do-gooders fought for more safety features and standards. Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, pension, paternity leave, paid holidays and sick pay because some union layabouts fought for these working standards. Joe injures himself at work and has to go to hospital. He receives treatment fully paid for by his affiliated insurance provider because some radical left-wing liberals created the Affordable Care Act. Joe gets home and relaxes as he watches Fox News on TV. The hosts never mention that the Conservatives have fought against and voted against every protection and benefit Joe enjoyed throughout his day, and they remind everyone that socialists are dangerous and are destroying the country. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government socialists ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have." Joe finds it wonderful to live in such blissful ignorance?
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