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Old 16th July 2017, 05:04 AM   #1
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Talking Game Over - we have a Death Bed Confession for WTC7!

Three days ago at YouNewsWire.com - News. Truth. Unfiltered.

CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11’

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79-year-old retired CIA agent, Malcom Howard, has made a series of astonishing claims since being released from hospital in New Jersey on Friday and told he has weeks to live. Mr. Howard claims he was involved in the “controlled demolition” of World Trade Center 7, the third building that was destroyed on 9/11.
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Trained as a civil engineer, Mr. Howard became an explosives expert after being headhunted by the CIA in early 1980s. Mr. Howard says has extensive experience in planting explosives in items as small as cigarette lighters and as large as “80 floor buildings.
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Mr. Howard says he was part of a cell of 4 operatives tasked with ensuring the demolition was successful.
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Explaining how the building was bought down, Mr. Howard says, “It was a classic controlled demolition with explosives. We used super-fine military grade nanothermite composite materials as explosives. The hard part was getting thousands of pounds of explosives, fuses and ignition mechanisms into the building without causing too much concern. But almost every single office in the Building 7 was rented by the CIA, the Secret Service, or the military, which made it easier.
I first spotted this at 911Blogger - although poster "wildbill" in my opinion is the second-sanest person there among those who still have posting privileges.

Let's see where this pops up now!
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Old 16th July 2017, 06:22 AM   #2
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Old 16th July 2017, 08:52 AM   #3
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And he has made these claims to... whom, exactly?
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Old 16th July 2017, 09:56 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Ray Brady View Post
And he has made these claims to... whom, exactly?
I'd guess to Baxter Dmitry, who "covers politics, business and entertainment" for YourNewsWire and "has travelled in over 80 countries and won arguments in every single one".

He's one of the fine staff of investigative journalists which also include Sean "Cyrus" Adl-Tabatabai, Carol "Phytoforce" Adl and Edmondo "Vince" Burr.

Baxter has given us such fine reads asAll within just one month!
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Old 16th July 2017, 01:06 PM   #5
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So 4 operatives managed to wire the building for demolition. riiiiiiight....

This is back to the old Loose Change forums claims that 4 guys with backpacks could easily run into the burning WTC7 and rig it up for demolition in a couple of hours.

....riiiiiiight....
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Old 16th July 2017, 01:57 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
Sounds like that gave an idea for a story to someone.
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Old 16th July 2017, 02:41 PM   #7
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Hey! fake news:

http://www.snopes.com/cia-agent-confesses-wtc7/

There was no truth to the story, which originated with YourNewsWire, a fake news site. As is often the case with fake news, the article lacked critical details such as when and where the confession occurred (other than the vague reference to its taking place “at home”), YourNewsWire provide no explanation of how they alone (and no other news source) learned of this confession, and we found nothing documenting the existence of a former CIA agent named Malcom Howard outside of the just-published YourNewsWire piece.
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Old 16th July 2017, 02:46 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
Why on earth did they even bother?!? I mean just speak the name of that journalist out loud: "Baxter Dmitri". Hello??
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Old 16th July 2017, 02:51 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
Why on earth did they even bother?!? I mean just speak the name of that journalist out loud: "Baxter Dmitri". Hello??
I'm sure that went over the pointy heads of 9/11 CTists.
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Old 16th July 2017, 03:13 PM   #10
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Haha!
I tried a reverse-image-search for the photo of the elderly man in intensive care. Found mostly "alt-news" site reblogging the article. Among them James Fetzer on July 13.

And here is a response by Fetzer's archenemy, Kevin Barrett on July 14:
Originally Posted by Kevin Barrett
Today’s False Flag Weekly News did NOT cover the “bombshell” story of the supposed WTC-7 demolition confession by a dying CIA agent. Why not? Because it’s OBVIOUS ********.

If you can’t tell that this is a made-up story from the way it’s written, you need to take your BS detector in for a tune-up. That’s right, Jim Fetzer, this means you!
I love it!

The funniest thing is that Barrett attributes the article to a "Cass Sunstein agent" journalist "Jay Greenberg", because he found the same article, published on NeonNettle July 14, under that name. Of course the "original" (?) YourNewsWire article ran on July 13.

Jimbo Fetzer adorned his July 13 article with a disclaimer, probably after he saw that Barrett is right:
Originally Posted by James Fetzer
[Editor's note: Bear in mind that, should this be disinformation, the depiction presented of the demolition of WTC-7 (with the possible exception of the role of "military grade" nano-thermite) bears a striking resemblance to how it was done, as I have elsewhere explained in some detail.]
Hahaha what brilliant logic! Because the story reads juuust like a 9/11 Twoofer made it up, it is credible?!
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Old 16th July 2017, 03:22 PM   #11
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Another intellectual bigship of the Twoofment, Paul Craig Roberts, was at least temporarily fooled: On July 15, he blooged:

I have taken down the Baxter Dmitry article
which implies, he first blogged it.
Originally Posted by PCR
I have taken down the Baxter Dmitry article. Apparently, he is one of these people who like to make practical jokes out of serious matters. PCR
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Old 16th July 2017, 03:38 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
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“80 floor buildings.”
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"has travelled in over 80 countries... "


80 Floors, 80 Countries, do I need to draw you sheeple a map?!?!
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Old 16th July 2017, 04:11 PM   #14
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By the way, I'm currently engrossed in this new book, "The Exile: The Stunning Inside Story of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda in Flight":

https://www.amazon.com/Exile-Stunnin.../dp/1620409844

The opening chapters detail bin Laden's problem getting satellite TV reception TO WATCH THE NEWS ABOUT HIS ATTACK ON THE WTC. He had to watch it later. Also detailed are the extensive evacuations by key Al Qaeda personnel to avoid being targeted after the attacks.

Which is a all weird if they didn't do it...(which they did).
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Incidentally...... I don't believe Al Qaeda ever claimed responsibility for the collapse of building 7.............


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But you have to admire the NWO for its commitment to equal opportunity. Who else would pluck a middle-aged noodge out of total obscurity, turn him into a top-flight assassin and demolition expert, and let him live out his last days in peace after he confesses to blowing up WTC 7?
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Here's what I'm wondering. If the CIA was responsible for the bombing, and the majority of the office space was rented by the CIA...which made it easier to plant the bombs...then what was the reason for imploding the building? Why would the CIA need to implode their own building?
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Here's what I'm wondering. If the CIA was responsible for the bombing, and the majority of the office space was rented by the CIA...which made it easier to plant the bombs...then what was the reason for imploding the building? Why would the CIA need to implode their own building?
The Truther line is that they blew up the building to destroy documents...because we all know that the CIA is really bad at destroying, erasing, or misplacing important incriminating evidence.

My question is: Why isn't secretly rigging a high-rise with explosives and leveling it without warning not terrifying enough on its own?
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I remember when E. Howard Hunt (a CIA Agent and a major figure in the Watergate scandal) died, his sons supposedly taped a deathbed confession that EHH had been involved in the Kennedy Assassination.

These kinds of deathbed confessions (DBCs) seem to be staple CT fare--note that Baxter also got an MI5 agent to admit to offing Lady Di.

The DBCs do have a certain advantage, in that the supposed confessor is not around to deny his culpability. And these days, we know that there is a market for this stuff--indeed, almost a circuit. Go on Coast to Coast, go on Alex Jones, sell your book/website.
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Here's what I'm wondering. If the CIA was responsible for the bombing, and the majority of the office space was rented by the CIA...which made it easier to plant the bombs...then what was the reason for imploding the building? Why would the CIA need to implode their own building?
Well... the claim is that sooper seekrit CIA documents were stored there. The only way to conceal those from prying eyes was to crash frakkin' jets into other buildings, collapse those and use that as a pretext to collapse WTC7.

Cross cut shredding and subsequent burning is somehow too mundane a method for document disposal, because apparently, these documents are written in blood on titanium plates and the only way to securely dispose of them is to concoct a cartoon conspiracy for no reason at all except that the ebil gubmint will always concoct the most convoluted plot as is possible to conceive. Just because they have nothing better to do.

It's depressing that people actually believe this crap.
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I remember when E. Howard Hunt (a CIA Agent and a major figure in the Watergate scandal) died, his sons supposedly taped a deathbed confession that EHH had been involved in the Kennedy Assassination.

These kinds of deathbed confessions (DBCs) seem to be staple CT fare--note that Baxter also got an MI5 agent to admit to offing Lady Di.

The DBCs do have a certain advantage, in that the supposed confessor is not around to deny his culpability. And these days, we know that there is a market for this stuff--indeed, almost a circuit. Go on Coast to Coast, go on Alex Jones, sell your book/website.
Historically people have pretended that deathbed confession are very good - almost certain truth, because the dead has no reason to lie anymore (Yeah. Right. I can find at least 4 reason why this is wrong without really thinking long on it).

Add to that that baring video of the confession they are unverifiable (forget document or witness - both which can be forged/lie).

That is why they are used as a stapple of CT.

ETA: As a practical joker, I already know that I will be doing a deathbed confession of hidden golden bar or something , if I am conscious.

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The Truther line is that they blew up the building to destroy documents...
Everyone knows blowing up a building is the best way to ensure super secrete documents don't end up floating around and into some strangers hands... oh wait

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Originally Posted by pgimeno View Post
Sounds like that gave an idea for a story to someone.
It's actually the same article, just edited with new names, locations, etc. to make it look right.
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Ghosts did it, together with Bigfoot and Tom Cruise. They placed dynamite around WTC7 and painted it with invisible paint (otherwise the sheeple would see it). Afterwards, 4 homing missiles from a Rocket Launcer with a silencer attached to it were aimed at the empty building filled with top sekreet CIA papers.

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And he has made these claims to... whom, exactly?
The Grim Reaper. He hoped he'd go to heaven if he confessed everything

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80 Floors, 80 Countries, do I need to draw you sheeple a map?!?!
Horatius! You know that we're not allowed to mention what Verne did! You know what happens when Steve finds out that someone mentions what REALLY happened in 2001...
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80 Floors, 80 Countries, do I need to draw you sheeple a map?!?!
Maybe he has read too many novels of Jules Verne.
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Why on earth did they even bother?!? I mean just speak the name of that journalist out loud: "Baxter Dmitri". Hello??
Don't get it. Is it a pun or something like that? Back-stirred Meat-tree?
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Don't get it. Is it a pun or something like that? Back-stirred Meat-tree?
No, not a pun, but my general feeling for language rings loudly all BS bells. That is not a real name.

I could be wrong, of course, but then you also have colleagues "Sean Adl-Tabatabai" and "Edmondo Burr".
Anglosaxon - Russian
Irish - Persian
Spanish - English

I have been to plenty of countries and met people of many mixed national backgrounds. I have almost never seen combinations of first and last names as odd as these. Dmitri isn't even a last name in Russia, it's a first name. I'd sooner believe "Dmitri Baxter" than "Baxter Dmitri".

Perhaps all writers at YourNewsWire use Pseudonyms as a policy. That would not inspire confidence.



I once had a couple of days of software training, and the trainer was flown in to Germany from the USA. Her name was Pamela Blue. I had an immediate sense that this sounds like a porn name. I looked it up, and indeed, there existed at the time a porn star calling herself "Pamela Blue", which no doubt was made up.
Now trainer Pamela Blue wasn't a porn star at all, and here name was real. This anecdote illustrates two things:
- my instincts about names work
- they can go wrong
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Right, I get you. I agree it doesn't sound legit. I just thought I might be doing a Moe from The Simpsons and missing an obvious 'Seymour Butts' or 'Hugh Jass'.
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One such punny play on words occurred regularly on the early '50's BBC comedy show "The Goon Show" - they referred to a person "Hugh Jampton"

...which - if you "get" the play on words - was very risqué for the BBC of that era.
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One such punny play on words occurred regularly on the early '50's BBC comedy show "The Goon Show" - they referred to a person "Hugh Jampton"
I had to look that up (not listened to much of The Goons) - for those who also didn't know, 'Hampton' is apparently cockney rhyming slang for 'penis', i.e, Hampton Wick = Dick. So Hugh Jampton = Huge 'ampton.

Pretty good, but not quite up there with my favorite obscene joke sneaked past the censors, namely in the Dad's Army episode 'The Two and a Half Feathers', where Jones is recalling an operation in the desert and how they passed by 'an old fakir'
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I had to look that up (not listened to much of The Goons) - for those who also didn't know, 'Hampton' is apparently cockney rhyming slang for 'penis', i.e, Hampton Wick = Dick. So Hugh Jampton = Huge 'ampton.

Pretty good, but not quite up there with my favorite obscene joke sneaked past the censors, namely in the Dad's Army episode 'The Two and a Half Feathers', where Jones is recalling an operation in the desert and how they passed by 'an old fakir'

Speaking of parochial British desert fakir humour - the Sand Dance.

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Speaking of parochial British desert fakir humour - the Sand Dance.
I've seen that parodied so many times but never seen the original!
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I've lost track of this thread now. Are we claiming that Wilson, Keppel and Betty demolished WTC7?

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Are we claiming that Wilson, Keppel and Betty demolished WTC7?
Wilson Keppel Betty = WKB
World Trade Center = WTC

Number of letters needed to get from each to the other = 081
Plus 7 for WTC7 = 088 (Heil Hitler) Coincidence?

Plus 911 = 999

999 is the equivalent emergency number to 911 in Britain. Wilson, Keppel and Betty were British. Coincidence?
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No, not a pun, but my general feeling for language rings loudly all BS bells. That is not a real name.

I could be wrong, of course, but then you also have colleagues "Sean Adl-Tabatabai" and "Edmondo Burr".
Anglosaxon - Russian
Irish - Persian
Spanish - English

I have been to plenty of countries and met people of many mixed national backgrounds. I have almost never seen combinations of first and last names as odd as these. Dmitri isn't even a last name in Russia, it's a first name. I'd sooner believe "Dmitri Baxter" than "Baxter Dmitri".

Perhaps all writers at YourNewsWire use Pseudonyms as a policy. That would not inspire confidence.
Sean Adl-Tabatabai is the former webmaster of the David Icke Forum - he split with Icke in 2014 following the debacle that was "The Peoples Voice TV".

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and moved to the USA with his partner - one of the first same sex marriages in the UK (third picture down).

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Ok, slowsmile, thanks! Color me surprised!
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