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Old 3rd January 2015, 06:59 AM   #201
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Can you provide a link to the scientific article stating what you say? I'm not aware of any experiment being done to mice that resulted in this. It would be easy to perform I suppose, so I imagine there must be ample evidence backing up your claims. Can you cite any of them?
The far from my diet staying analog is so called Cascade medical fasting.
It goes step by step.
1step 1 day to eat - 1 day to fast.
2 step 2 days to eat - 2 days to fast.
And so it goes step by step till the last 7th step 7 days to eat - 7 days to fast.
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I have another question for you - how hot is too hot for water and the point at which it becomes 'death water'? Is it only once it reaches the point of boiling? 60 Celsius is pretty hot. It would certainly damage a human if they were in it too long. That is how hot water is in many people's hot water heater around the world. Yet the world doesn't seem to be dying off because of it.
I think that if to put the fish from aquarium in the water 40 degrees celsius it will die.
It means that from 40 degrees begins "the water of death" for food making using.
The best water temperature is 36.6 degrees.
I can't prove it but my intuition and experience tell me so.

I am for sauna 100 - 140 degrees but it is not about eating.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 07:11 AM   #202
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
Define what you mean by "kills".

How hot does the water have to be?

What are some "useful ingredients of every food"?

Define "raw water". Where do you get it?
I am not a specialist in this subject.
It is just my believing and my 9 months experience.
The raw foodists and vegans have the same sort of believing about their food.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 07:42 AM   #203
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It's true that boiling vegetables can remove some of the water soluble nutrients they contain, which is why steaming is often recommended as a healthier way of cooking them. The water itself is not unhealthy, though, in fact it now contains those nutrients. That's why I always use the water from boiled vegetables to make the gravy.
If the man can eat all this food in natural raw form why he put it in a boiler?
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Old 3rd January 2015, 07:56 AM   #204
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
Does it have to be Saturday?
The 7th Day for jews is Saturday.
The 7th Day for Muslims is Friday.
The 7th Day for Christians is Sunday.
The format of 7 days week is for every world for many hundreds of years.
The Greatest surprise that it never ever was any little war about this.
Week is "great consensus time social quant"
Einstein told that the Week is one of the greatest inventions.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 08:07 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
The 7th Day for jews is Saturday.
The 7th Day for Muslims is Friday.
The 7th Day for Christians is Sunday.
The format of 7 days week is for every world for many hundreds of years.
The Greatest surprise that it never ever was any little war about this.
Week is "great consensus time social quant"
Einstein told that the Week is one of the greatest inventions.
Here's an interesting article on the origin of different 'weeks':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

I didn't realize the 7 day one had a Babylonian origin. Though I did recall the Mayan and Aztec cycle was 13 days.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 08:27 AM   #206
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In addition to many kilograms of faeces and urine, this catharsis produces 2 pounds weight of "alkaloid whisky"!

Is that why you soak and then consume four pounds of grain as fifteen pounds of mash? Because that sort of ingredient is used here in Scotland in whisky distilleries. However, I have a problem. That 2 lb is almost a litre of whisky. So on top of the huge amount of food, you body is coping with enough whisky to keep a hardened boozer intoxicated all day.

Can that be a healthy diet? I do not think so.
The producing of alkaloids and opiates by my body do not depend from ingredients of my diet.
Every 12 hours without eating my body produces the amount of alkaloid that equivalent of 0.2 lb of whisky or vodka.
It means that fo 6 days my organism produces amount of alkaloid that equivalent to 2,4 lb of vodka.
So in 1 hour I drink just 0,017 lb of this equivalent.
It is the best alcohol in the world that is very good exactly in those quantities for my health.
And it will be so for every other person.
Any Intoxication is absolutely imposible.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 08:30 AM   #207
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
If the man can eat all this food in natural raw form why he put it in a boiler?
Because most vegetables are much more pleasant to eat cooked.

Plus there are some which are poisonous raw. Several types of beans are, for example.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 08:43 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
The producing of alkaloids and opiates by my body do not depend from ingredients of my diet.

Every 12 hours without eating my body produces the amount of alkaloid that equivalent of 0.2 lb of whisky or vodka.

It means that fo 6 days my organism produces amount of alkaloid that equivalent to 2,4 lb of vodka.

So in 1 hour I drink just 0,017 lb of this equivalent.

It is the best alcohol in the world that is very good exactly in those quantities for my health.

And it will be so for every other person.

Any Intoxication is absolutely imposible.

No, just no. Unless you have a magical or alchemical digestive system the production of alkaloids absolutely requires nitrogen.

As for the rest, what are the processes your body is using to make these alcohols and opiates? How have you determined that they are alcohols or opiates? And how in the name of the Gods and Goddesses of Brewing did you get the magical alcohol that gives you the positive effects of intoxication without the negative?
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
The producing of alkaloids and opiates by my body do not depend from ingredients of my diet.
Every 12 hours without eating my body produces the amount of alkaloid that equivalent of 0.2 lb of whisky or vodka.
It means that fo 6 days my organism produces amount of alkaloid that equivalent to 2,4 lb of vodka.
So in 1 hour I drink just 0,017 lb of this equivalent.
It is the best alcohol in the world that is very good exactly in those quantities for my health.
And it will be so for every other person.
Any Intoxication is absolutely imposible.
I wonder if you'd tell us about your formal education. What did you study after secondary school.
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No, just no. Unless you have a magical or alchemical digestive system the production of alkaloids absolutely requires nitrogen.

As for the rest, what are the processes your body is using to make these alcohols and opiates? How have you determined that they are alcohols or opiates? And how in the name of the Gods and Goddesses of Brewing did you get the magical alcohol that gives you the positive effects of intoxication without the negative?
For that matter, he has a very specific amount of these 'alkaloids and alcohol'. So it begs the so far unanswered questions, how is this measured, who did the measurements. Along with your still unanswered question of what internal mechanism produces these compounds, AND the still unanswered question of exactly what compounds these are. Supposedly there are 500 of them.

It of course should be noted that alcohol is NOT an alkaloid. Alcohols do not contain nitrogen.

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This might be of interest.
http://www.foodsmart.govt.nz/whats-i...pecific-foods/
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
or perhaps its 6 pounds of feces but only 4.5 pounds exits on Saturday.
That might explain why some of us are so full of it.
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Old 3rd January 2015, 06:10 PM   #213
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
I am not a specialist in this subject.
It is just my believing and my 9 months experience.
The raw foodists and vegans have the same sort of believing about their food.
And I believe you are incorrect and this is my 73 years experience.

Am I ahead now?
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In my life, I was cleaning the stomach by enemas, by Epsom salts and by other ways.
If you were cleaning your stomach with an enema, you had the longest insertion tube in the history of mankind.
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If you were cleaning your stomach with an enema, you had the longest insertion tube in the history of mankind.
Add anatomy to the list of subjects NC gets wrong.
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What about them? If they can't keep to the simple diet that enabled them to lose the weight in the first place they're certainly not going to be able to keep to one that requires them to not eat at all for six days of every week.
It is 80% of people who have paid a huge cost of their life forces to lose their weight and after all what they have paid their overweight has come back again and not once.
Your lifestyle model takes too much of nervous and life forces from the people.
It is really very difficult to keep every hour of life the conditions "not to eat too much and not to eat too less".
Thats why only 20% of people can do eat with many difficulties.
My lifestyle is "to eat as much as possible in the 7th Day and to eat as less as possible (in limit it is not to eat at all and it is best of all) in the others 6 working week days.
It is very very easy to keep this life style and 100% of people who have lose their weight will keep it for ever.
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You have yet to find a single volunteer, let alone a group.
I didn't try too much.
I am sure it is not a big problem to find those volunteers from people that very suffer from their overweight.
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That would certainly be enough to generate some interest in your diet, your problem will be finding a suitable volunteer. I'm the right age and sex, but I will not be volunteering.
OK!
Now it is clear to me that if even my diet will give ability to the women to have their own children in the age of 100 years old it does not mean that most people will use it.
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In fact my recent dinner was Sirloin steak, Steamed Vegetables a baked potato with sour cream and an icy drink.
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May I just add that I'd hate to clean the bowl after a "Great Peristaltic Catharsis" event.
The every 7th Day "Great Peristaltic Catharsis" can prolong in 2 times your life .
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Well I hope you don't do this!
I just want to say that Diet of New Saturday will give an ability to people to do this.
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As Genesis 16 tells us: As a secular person you will agree that these are horrible primitive stories,
Absolutely not.
As "Secular Abrahamic - Buddhist" I think that Tanah, Bible, Koran and Tipitaka are "Books of Books" of human beings civilisation.
To make total holocaust of total world ksenofobia and kseno-hating every person have to read regularly those 4 Books of 4 world religions.
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and I hope that following your diet won't make bad things like that happen to people.
I am absolutely sure that only good things and very easy.
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Ahhh, but aren't we living longer these days than before we invented hot water heaters?
I am not sure that really our average life is increase last 10 - 15 years.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
It is very very easy to keep this life style and 100% of people who have lose their weight will keep it for ever.
If it's so easy why have you been unable to find a single other person willing to try it?

And you can't possibly know that everyone who follows your diet will keep the weight off, many people fail on diets that other people have succeeded on. After just 9 months you can't even be sure you will keep off the weight you've lost for ever.

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I am sure it is not a big problem to find those volunteers from people that very suffer from their overweight.
People who suffer from being overweight tend to be people who can't go without eating for a few hours, let alone a few days.

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OK!
Now it is clear to me that if even my diet will give ability to the women to have their own children in the age of 100 years old it does not mean that most people will use it.
Why on earth would any woman want to have a child at the age of 100?
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
I am not sure that really our average life is increase last 10 - 15 years.
It's up from 78 in 2000 to 82 in 2012 in my country. Look up your own country here:

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN
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I know I'm going to regret asking this but, why do you think you'll get the Nobel Prize and in what category?
1 Peristaltic Catharsis of the 7th Day is really knew fenomen that I have discovered accidently on my experiment on myself for those 9 months.
2 It gives an ability to every persen very very easy not eat 6 days of every week and eat only in the 7th Day.
3 This lifestyle gives an ability to every person to be free from his overweight and in this way from all illnesses that it brings.
It also gives an ability to produce needful amount of alkaloids and optatss that are the best drugs in the world from alcoholism, drug addiction and smoking.

So I have the real reason to weight Nobel in "Physiology and Medicine" for this great and very useful for most world people discovery.
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Busy this morning, I have not read the whole thread, but it seems to provide a good object lesson in how crazy diets can cause hallucination.
Look please.
I am an inventor from the age of 27 years old and now I am 65.
I know very well the creative hallucinations of creative person that look crazy in the first time and than bring many useful things to people.
Creative people very often use drugs and alcohol to reach maximum creativity and it is a very dangerous way.
My diet simply gives them most effective in the world inter and natural drugs and alcohol that do not bring health damage but bring huge health improvement.
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For my own part, if I have to starve in the desert in order to meet God , then to hell with him. Let him show up on my morning toast like a civilized savior.
My God has no any concrete image.
HE just gives me very often good ideas and the 9 months of "Diet of New Saturday" have intensify the stream of those ideas.
I can make very easy an adaptation of almost every person on this diet if he want
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When did you perform this experiment?
I didn't make it but I'd like to make it.
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Could you list them?
No.
I heard about 500 kinds of opiates that produces an organism of a man most intensively in the time of long fasting from internet.
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The idea that periodic fasting can improve health and increase life expectancy is not a new one, though even its most enthusiastic proponents don't suggest fasting for 6 days in every 7. There's a good summary of the scientific research into the effects of fasting here:

http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/30fasting.php
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Restaurant owners might not be too happy if this takes off, they'll only be able to open one day a week. Be very wary of any clowns that appear to be following you.
Look.
For first 5 - 6 first months of my diet I paid for my food 10 dollars a week.
But the last 2 - 3 months a I pay for my food 20 dollars a week because I began to eat chickens to carry the stable
mass index 22.
My intuition tells me that if to carry the normal lowest MI 18.5 it will be enough my first ingredients of food without chickens.
It means that my weight has to be 135 lb (my high is 6ft).
My relatives are strongly opposed it because they saw me for last 45 years with weight 220 - 254 lb.

If all people will pay for their week amount of food only 20 dollar a week it will make a huge damage for a great number of businesses.
After all people will not pay money for alcohol, drugs and cigarettes because I will teach their bodies to produce their own alcohol and drugs - best of all we can fantasise.
So I will have in nearest future very dangerous and very strong enemies.
Only God can defend me from them.
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Well he said what the outcome will be, so I assume he's already done it himself, right?
There is a great law of conservation of energy, mass, material wealth and health.
If you give the part of your own energy, mass, material wealth and health to anybody else the amount of all those things that you are the owner will be less.
And there is the greater law - the law of conservation an information.
If you know something important for you and you give this knowledge to somebody else you will not know less.
This type of "wealth of knowledge" will be dominant in my society of "New Saturday".
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Originally Posted by Border Reiver View Post

The human digestive system works too quickly and at too high a temperature for fermentation to take place, and the human body simply cannot carry out the process of distillation.

Your claim that you produce 2 pounds of an "alkaloid whiskey`` per week is false.
Your explanation of making beer and whisky was interesting.
I also have experience of making alcohol at home from sugar and yeast.
I did not tell you that my body produces beer or whisky or vodka.
I have told you that my body for 6 days without eating produces the amount of alkaloid that equivalent to 2.2 lb of whisky, or vodka, or brandy but much better quality.
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Where's the evidence of your food intake and weigh-ins?
My wife.
She lives with me about 40 years.
My mother, sister, daughter, niece and cousin.
They all are the real evidences of my experience.
Of course they do not know exactly every day figures.
In Facebook I have my pictures when I had а weight 254 pounds.
In the closet are my pants size 58.
I confirm that I am agree to go through all kinds of objective scientist searching and investigations.

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Have you been monitoring your iron, cholesterol and assorted micro-nutrient levels?
How often are you testing your blood sugar? Your "diet" should result in spikes in blood sugar levels. What do you do to counter this?
No.
But I am agree to do it today in the frame of scientific investigation program about my diet.
I never have checked my sugar in my life.
I agree to check it too of course.
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In addition to the dubiousness of the diet itself we have yet to see much evidence of "high creative and spirit abilities" in a form recognizable to most.
OK!
I suggest to make an open discussion about my projects in skype and it will be clear to everybody the level of my creativity.
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If my dog is indicative whichever one is closest will be consumed first, then the other one will go down.

Wild carnivores are opportunistic feeders - they will eat as often as they can, and drinking depending on the availability of water.
Such behavior is the best identifier of really healthy animals.
You need to give to your dog 2 big troughs.
One with raw water and the other one with boiled water.

There are a huge number of different diets.
What are the healthy of them?
Most healthy are those that give the fastest increasing of our weight when we stop it and begin to eat as much as possible as your healthy wild animals.
If to use this indicator of diet health improvement potential as the Diet of New Saturday is the most healthy diet in the world.
And from another side it is most easy to carry it from all others millions of diets.
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Old 4th January 2015, 05:27 AM   #233
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I did not tell you that my body produces beer or whisky or vodka.
I have told you that my body for 6 days without eating produces the amount of alkaloid that equivalent to 2.2 lb of whisky, or vodka, or brandy but much better quality.
What you in fact wrote was very unclear.
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... This “factory” produces not only those amounts of fat, urine, and feces but also 2 lb of “natural alkaloid whisky” and 500 kinds of opiates that give great health and creative enlistments to me.
Your expression "natural alkaloid whisky" suggests that your body produces some kind of whisky; moreover you added it to the list of fat, faeces and urine which your body also produces, so I thought you meant whisky, or at least its alcohol equivalent, as a literal substance. Because presumably the faeces and urine are physical substances too.
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How can such a absurd statement come from a "secular" person? There is nothing special about these days or weeks. This is an ancient Israelite custom, presumably derived from the observation that leaving land fallow for a year every so often improves fertility.

This was explained by ancient priests as a god magically restoring the fertility of the soil. But we know now why it happens, and it is not at all supernatural.
OK.
And how they knew this great optimal ratio of "Land's Eat fallow only every 7th year diet" and others 6 years to give it's fertility to people - 1/6 the same as in my "Diet of New Saturday"?
Secular man does not mean that he does not believe in
infinity of unknown things.
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I do not understand how eating cancer cells will protect me from getting cancer. Is it because I am training my immune system to recognize cancer?
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So there's no reason to think giving them previously boiled water is harmful, and every reason (actual examples of animals being given previously boiled water and coming to no harm whatsoever) to think it isn't. So are you now going to abandon this silly belief?
Absolutely not.
Because aquarium fish will die in boiled water.
I really did not find information about differences of drinking raw clean end boiled clean water but it does not means that it is no exist.

We eat GMO foods and rich people do not eat them.
For me it proofs 100% that only criminals can produce them but for most people it means nothing.

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Most of what "raw foodists" say and do is nonsense. Pay no attention to them.
I don't think so.
They are very interesting people and they made many discoveries.
All what they really need the adaptation of my diet to their raw food.
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No, we really don't.
I think that Tanah, Bible, Koran and Tripitaka are the cultural code of our Abrahamic - Budha civilisation.
Everybody have to read those books from their childhood.
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We don't need the Bible to tell us this.
If not Bible we will live without week time format.

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If your diet was the same proportion you would be eating for six days and not eating every seventh. Your "discovery" is actually the exact opposite of this Bible recommendation.
The land according Bible has to "eat one year from 7 years" and not to give harvest this year and the others 6 years the land has not to eat it has to give harvest.
The great Bible analog with my diet.
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This thread is getting even stranger
Because the "Diet of New Saturday in a stage of development.
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Here's an interesting article on the origin of different 'weeks':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

I didn't realize the 7 day one had a Babylonian origin. Though I did recall the Mayan and Aztec cycle was 13 days.
It is a matter of fact that after Resurrection of Holy Language, Resurrection of Holy Land and after the end of 2500 years old of Jews galut era the format of 7 days' week as the model of creation we see in every world country today.
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I think I understand now.
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Originally Posted by Nationalcosmopolitan View Post
Absolutely not.
Because aquarium fish will die in boiled water.
No, they will not. In fact distilled water is recommended:

http://thetropicaltank.co.uk/purewatr.htm

You are wrong about this. Water which has been boiled and then cooled is no less healthy to drink or use in food preparation or in aquariums than water which has not been boiled. If anything it's healthier, because boiling kills germs.

It's one thing to make such a mistake in ignorance, but to persist in it despite being corrected is just ridiculous.

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I really did not find information about differences of drinking raw clean end boiled clean water but it does not means that it is no exist.
If it was at all harmful there would be plenty of evidence to that effect, and you would have had no trouble finding it.

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We eat GMO foods and rich people do not eat them.
For me it proofs 100% that only criminals can produce them but for most people it means nothing.
More unsupported nonsense.

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I don't think so.
They are very interesting people and they made many discoveries.
All what they really need the adaptation of my diet to their raw food.
They may be interesting, but they can be (and often are) irrational.

Did you read the link posted above about the foods which are poisonous raw and need to be cooked to remove the toxins?

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I think that Tanah, Bible, Koran and Tripitaka are the cultural code of our Abrahamic - Budha civilisation.
Everybody have to read those books from their childhood.
Some familiarity with them is a good idea if only to understand the mess so many people and countries are in, but there are plenty of far more interesting and educational books to read.

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If not Bible we will live without week time format.
So we might have, say, 6 or 8 days in a week instead of 7. So? It would make very little difference.

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The land according Bible has to "eat one year from 7 years" and not to give harvest this year and the others 6 years the land has not to eat it has to give harvest.
The great Bible analog with my diet.
Or the analogous diet (in so far as such an analogy would make any sense at all) to farming the land for 6 years and refraining from doing so for one might be to eat for 6 days and refrain from doing so for one. Either way it's not a very close analogy is it? Not enough to set any store by.
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