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View Poll Results: How long will UK Prime Minister Theresa May Last?
She'll last a month at most 8 17.78%
She won't last out the week 3 6.67%
She'll last for two weeks 2 4.44%
She'll last until the next Tory Conference in October 2017 20 44.44%
She'll last until the next General Election 8 17.78%
She'll ride out the storm and serve the full term 2 4.44%
Who cares <shrug>? 2 4.44%
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Old 10th July 2017, 02:42 PM   #241
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I was wondering whether Craig B was being heavily ironic there, so didn't mention the DUP's religious leanings
I was a bit. Also the twelfth of July is only two days away.
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Old 11th July 2017, 09:45 AM   #242
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I was a bit. Also the twelfth of July is only two days away.
And they're getting themselves into the mood already. This from the Herald today.
A RACIST banner making derogatory comments about Celtic forward Scott Sinclair and hung on a Belfast bonfire ahead of the traditional ‘Eleventh Night’ celebrations has provoked outrage.

Police in Northern Ireland are investigating after a banner with the words ‘Scott Sinclair loves bananas’ was festooned on a pyre in the car park of Avoniel Leisure Centre in the east of the Northern Irish capital.

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May launching a desperate attempt to generate some sympathy today:

Theresa May 'shed a tear' at election exit poll

All it did for me is confirm her self-centred nature, oh so emotional about her own personal disaster while running away from people like the survivors of the Grenfell fire. And of course there's her utter insistence that austerity must go on and a hard Brexit is an acceptable option, again showing her utter lack of concern for anyone but herself.
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Old 16th July 2017, 01:31 AM   #244
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And they're getting themselves into the mood already. This from the Herald today.
A RACIST banner making derogatory comments about Celtic forward Scott Sinclair and hung on a Belfast bonfire ahead of the traditional ‘Eleventh Night’ celebrations has provoked outrage.

Police in Northern Ireland are investigating after a banner with the words ‘Scott Sinclair loves bananas’ was festooned on a pyre in the car park of Avoniel Leisure Centre in the east of the Northern Irish capital.
Even after the Twelfth is over, they're staying in the "mood". These people are completely outside the normal political spectrum. May really has to stop flirting with their parliamentary wing.
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Even after the Twelfth is over, they're staying in the "mood". These people are completely outside the normal political spectrum. May really has to stop flirting with their parliamentary wing.
I think flirting time is well past. May has already enjoyed a post-coital cigarette and left the money on the dresser on the way out.
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I think flirting time is well past. May has already enjoyed a post-coital cigarette and left the money on the dresser on the way out.
I think you've got that the wrong way around.
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This (or the Grenfell thread) is as good a place as any.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...56041.html?amp

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It's almost as though a lot of regulations are there for a reason.
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Thought I'd bump the thread given May's claim she's "here for the long term":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41106679

So that obviously answers the question in this thread as her believability on this claim is without reproach, especially as she has the firm backing of BoJo:

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"We need to get Brexit done.

"She's ideally placed to deliver a great outcome for our country and then deliver what we all want to see, which is this exciting agenda of global Britain.

"I think she gets it. She really wants to deliver it. I'm here to support her."
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Thought I'd bump the thread given May's claim she's "here for the long term":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41106679
From that article:
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Labour said she was "deluding herself" - but Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson led her defence, insisting she could win an absolute majority.
So, why didn't she?
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From that article:

So, why didn't she?
I'm sure we'll be told her lack of majority is all somehow the EU's fault at some point by him.

Rather funny editorial about this from the Chancellor she sacked George "the man of a 1000 jobs" Osborne:

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I would say her odd on surviving the year just lengthened somewhat:

May suffers humiliation as DUP backs Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees
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A Billion pounds just doesn't buy as much as it used to...
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I would say her odd on surviving the year just lengthened somewhat:

May suffers humiliation as DUP backs Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees


A Billion pounds just doesn't buy as much as it used to...
Well, it was a non-binding vote, but still ...

But much as I hate PMQs and judging people by their performance there, her latest showing was just plain surreal.

Come the party conference and she's out I reckon. Who the hell will replace her is a scary thought.
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Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
Well, it was a non-binding vote, but still ...

But much as I hate PMQs and judging people by their performance there, her latest showing was just plain surreal.

Come the party conference and she's out I reckon. Who the hell will replace her is a scary thought.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politi...20170629130748

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JACOB Rees-Mogg was sent from the year 1923 to stop the Conservatives from being destroyed, it has emerged.

The member for North East Somerset arrived in the 21st century seven years ago, riding an elaborate contraption of valves and levers propelled by a giant striped parasol.

Carrying only a steamer trunk of starched clothes from his own era, Rees-Mogg stumbled out of the machine determined to restore honest, decent rule by gentlemen.
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**cackle** I love that site

Yeah, that's our man. Maybe the Tories just have a totally wicked sense of humour and it's all been the funniest joke ever?

Oh ****. I now see his odds have shortened from joint 4th favourite to succeed May, at 11-1, to clear second fave at 7.5. This follows his denial of any interest in the job ...

eta: "Rees-Mogg claimed on LBC radio that the real reason for the increased use of food banks was because the previous Labour government had deliberately not told people they existed." Dear FSM.
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**cackle** I love that site

Yeah, that's our man. Maybe the Tories just have a totally wicked sense of humour and it's all been the funniest joke ever?

Oh ****. I now see his odds have shortened from joint 4th favourite to succeed May, at 11-1, to clear second fave at 7.5. This follows his denial of any interest in the job ...

eta: "Rees-Mogg claimed on LBC radio that the real reason for the increased use of food banks was because the previous Labour government had deliberately not told people they existed." Dear FSM.
It was better than that according to my colleague, Neil at lunchtime. Rees-Mogg also apparently thought that the increase in foodbanks was "uplifting".

That's when I suggested Neil google Daily Mash Rees-Mogg

Neil was particularly taken with the "somehow" in "Man somehow unaware that Jacob Rees-Mogg is a massive ....."
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Well, it was a non-binding vote, but still ...

But much as I hate PMQs and judging people by their performance there, her latest showing was just plain surreal.

Come the party conference and she's out I reckon. Who the hell will replace her is a scary thought.
Yes it was a non binding vote but that was largely because the government ducked out of an actual vote because they feared an embarrassing defeat. Right now the only thing keeping May in Number 10 is the sheer awfulness of her potential replacements. Boris Johnson's comedy routine has lost its amusement value now he has a real job, Davis is even more useless in public than May and they're still better than the others.
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Why did Theresa May wear at the Tory party conference a bracelet with the portrait of Trotsky's girlfriend? Is that a secret message that she also wants to get axed, or did Jeremy Corbyn slip into her dressing room?

And that was just one aspect of the trainwreck of her speech, to wit:
1) a comedian who managed to get up to the podium and hand her a P-45 form (notice of unemployment), as he claimed on behalf of BoJo
2) her coughing streak
3) the letters of the motto "Building a country for everyone" fell off the wall one by one
4) let's not even get into the contents of the speech itself.
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Why did Theresa May wear at the Tory party conference a bracelet with the portrait of Trotsky's girlfriend? Is that a secret message that she also wants to get axed, or did Jeremy Corbyn slip into her dressing room?

And that was just one aspect of the trainwreck of her speech, to wit:
1) a comedian who managed to get up to the podium and hand her a P-45 form (notice of unemployment), as he claimed on behalf of BoJo
2) her coughing streak
3) the letters of the motto "Building a country for everyone" fell off the wall one by one
4) let's not even get into the contents of the speech itself.
Sympathies for the sore throat, but even putting that aside it was excruciating. How the hell she will chair a cabinet meeting with even a grain of authority beats me.

Time to go, and nobody would blame her.

Curious fact:

My online bookie is offering odds on the person to succeed May as PM -

Johnson 6-1
Corbyn 6-1
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Sympathies for the sore throat, but even putting that aside it was excruciating. How the hell she will chair a cabinet meeting with even a grain of authority beats me.

Time to go, and nobody would blame her.

Curious fact:

My online bookie is offering odds on the person to succeed May as PM -

Johnson 6-1
Corbyn 6-1
(etc)
Well after Johnson's gaffe last night about Sirte I wouldn't put much money on him. Funny thing is when Corbyn was elected Labour leader the Tories were ecstatic about it, he was going to wreck the party while Theresa may led the Tories to certain victory. Now she's a liability and they live in fear of Corbyn.
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Well after Johnson's gaffe last night about Sirte I wouldn't put much money on him. Funny thing is when Corbyn was elected Labour leader the Tories were ecstatic about it, he was going to wreck the party while Theresa may led the Tories to certain victory. Now she's a liability and they live in fear of Corbyn.
It's only half a year ago that no-one gave a dime about Corbyn's political future and everybody expected May to achieve a huge win. Now Corbyn gets a two minute long standing ovation at his party conference while everybody mocks May and bets on her successor.
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It's only half a year ago that no-one gave a dime about Corbyn's political future and everybody expected May to achieve a huge win. Now Corbyn gets a two minute long standing ovation at his party conference while everybody mocks May and bets on her successor.
Look at the poll results above; 70%+ expected her gone by now.
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She would be gone by now if there was any obvious alternative candidate. I think the consensus is that the Tories still need to get rid of her before the next election, but they can't agree who should replace her.
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Those letters falling off the slogan behind her summed up the state of the party.
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I think the Tories are in the state of somebody wearing a bandage the needs to be replaced:the longer you delay taking off, the more it will hurt.
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Those letters falling off the slogan behind her summed up the state of the party.
Leaders speech at the party conference is simple. Plenty of soundbites for the media punctuated with applause and a standing ovation at the end. All you need to do is make sure there are no distractions, the party organization failed dismally at that, heaven help us when they have to deal with really complex issues.

May remains in a sort of limbo, there's no obvious successor and there's still enough MPs concerned about the consequences of a leadership contest to keep her in Number 10 for the time being. There's a fear factor that 'Jeremy Corbyn PM' could actually happen and a lot of Tory MPs could find themselves out of a job.
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
Why did Theresa May wear at the Tory party conference a bracelet with the portrait of Trotsky's girlfriend? Is that a secret message that she also wants to get axed, or did Jeremy Corbyn slip into her dressing room?

And that was just one aspect of the trainwreck of her speech, to wit:
1) a comedian who managed to get up to the podium and hand her a P-45 form (notice of unemployment), as he claimed on behalf of BoJo
2) her coughing streak
3) the letters of the motto "Building a country for everyone" fell off the wall one by one
4) let's not even get into the contents of the speech itself.
And she still can't get herself fired! Nobody wants to do Brexit it seems. She has to wonder now if the leadership contest she "won" had a dummy lineup. Not just a lineup of dummies but of people just pretending to want the job to encourage some poor sucker to win it.
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And she still can't get herself fired! Nobody wants to do Brexit it seems. She has to wonder now if the leadership contest she "won" had a dummy lineup. Not just a lineup of dummies but of people just pretending to want the job to encourage some poor sucker to win it.
I think Johnson would take the job.

He has a high opinion of himself, even by the standards of politicians.
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Why did Theresa May wear at the Tory party conference a bracelet with the portrait of Trotsky's girlfriend? Is that a secret message that she also wants to get axed, or did Jeremy Corbyn slip into her dressing room?

And that was just one aspect of the trainwreck of her speech, to wit:
1) a comedian who managed to get up to the podium and hand her a P-45 form (notice of unemployment), as he claimed on behalf of BoJo
2) her coughing streak
3) the letters of the motto "Building a country for everyone" fell off the wall one by one
4) let's not even get into the contents of the speech itself.
5. Plagiarism from The West Wing.http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/05/did-th...peech-6978575/
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I was going to mention that.

https://twitter.com/D_Raval/status/915618207343480833

Also, the introductory music was used without the permission of the colyright holder, who has stated that permission would not have been granted if it had been sought.
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I believe the F fell off first. If it were not for the MA, I would have a joke about that.
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I think most of twitter got there well before you.

ETA: This is fun.

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And she still can't get herself fired! Nobody wants to do Brexit it seems. She has to wonder now if the leadership contest she "won" had a dummy lineup. Not just a lineup of dummies but of people just pretending to want the job to encourage some poor sucker to win it.
The comedian who handed her the P-45 form said he did so on instructions of BoJo.

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I think Johnson would take the job.

He has a high opinion of himself, even by the standards of politicians.
I think he would too, but it would disqualify him from the race to be the FM who insulted the most countries in the world.
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The comedian who handed her the P-45 form said he did so on instructions of BoJo.


I think he would too, but it would disqualify him from the race to be the FM who insulted the most countries in the world.
Though as PM he could start a race with Trump to be the head of state who insulted the most countries in the world....
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
I think Johnson would take the job.

He has a high opinion of himself, even by the standards of politicians.
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The comedian who handed her the P-45 form said he did so on instructions of BoJo.


I think he would too, but it would disqualify him from the race to be the FM who insulted the most countries in the world.
True enough. Will the Tories be desperate enough to roll the dice on Bojo?
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Though as PM he could start a race with Trump to be the head of state government who insulted the most countries in the world....
FTFY, pedantic nitpick (I won't tell Liz). True. Boris would win hands-down on points, for style. Trump can't recite Kipling.

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True enough. Will the Tories be desperate enough to roll the dice on Bojo?
Would they really lose out with that gamble?

There's also this tidbit from the Tory conference. It seems Amber Rudd hat to order BoJo to stand up for May after her speech:
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I wonder, though, would the conference not have been the designated place to launch a leadership challenge?
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Grant Shapps urges Tory leadership contest

Former Tory Party chairman Grant Shapps has said he believes Theresa May should face a leadership election.
Mr Shapps told the BBC he had the backing of about 30 MPs, including five former cabinet ministers, adding: "I don't think we can go on like this."

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I believe the F fell off first. If it were not for the MA, I would have a joke about that.
Did all the Tory Conference attendees start yelling, "F off Theresa! F off!"
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