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Old 16th July 2017, 05:24 PM   #1
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Australian woman shot dead by Minneapolis police

No body cams working. Woman is blonde and white.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-a...25da452e25d46c

Interesting to see how this case goes.
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Old 16th July 2017, 05:36 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
No body cams working. Woman is blonde and white.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-a...25da452e25d46c

Interesting to see how this case goes.
Are you sure?

Fairfax says that she was an Australian native.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austra...YrC&ocid=wispr
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One part of the mystery solved - explains the trigger happy cops.

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Amazing coincidence.

None of the officers' body cameras were turned on.

I wonder what they use them for?
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Old 16th July 2017, 07:53 PM   #6
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This is all we know:

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“Two Minneapolis police officers responded to a 911 call of a possible assault just north of the 5100 block of Washburn Avenue South just before 11.30pm Saturday,” it read.


“At one point an officer fired their weapon, fatally striking a woman.”

The step-son said she thought she heard a noise in the alley.

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“I just know she heard a sound in the alley so then she called the police and the cops showed up and she was a very passionate woman, she probably thought something bad was happening and then next thing I know they take my best friend’s life.”

Why did he mention "very passionate"?
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This wouldn't have happened if she'd been armed with a boomerang!

But I suppose I shall wait for more evidence before characterizing the officers involved as "wild-eyed trigger-happy psychopaths."
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
This is all we know:




The step-son said she thought she heard a noise in the alley.




Why did he mention "very passionate"?
Clearly something that makes her very suspicious and likely to be shot by police.
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Old 16th July 2017, 08:31 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
This is all we know:




The step-son said she thought she heard a noise in the alley.

Why did he mention "very passionate"?

It's code for someone who, on occasion, exhibits anger. Duh!

It looks like she called the police and then was shot. Nice!
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
This wouldn't have happened if she'd been armed with a boomerang!

But I suppose I shall wait for more evidence before characterizing the officers involved as "wild-eyed trigger-happy psychopaths."
I suspect a couple of fairly sane officers encountered a manic depressive paranoid schizophrenic who was in attack mode.

And whatever else come out, the pigs ought to be fired for turning off their cameras.
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Old 16th July 2017, 08:51 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
I suspect a couple of fairly sane officers encountered a manic depressive paranoid schizophrenic who was in attack mode.
Donald Trump was there?
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http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/201...lice-shooting/
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It’s not yet clear. Minneapolis Police Department policy does not allow for manual deactivation “for an arrest, DUI, Use of Force, traffic stop or a ‘Significant Incident’."

Assistant Minneapolis police chief Medaria Arradondo confirmed that the body camera program is fully implemented in Minneapolis but Arradondo wouldn’t say why the cameras didn’t work.

And if the officers didn’t turn them off, how is it that both officers’ cameras didn’t work?

In other words, we appear to be left with the situation the $4 million investment in the cameras was supposed to eliminate.
Wow, if this crap is true I can't think of a better way to waste $4 million bucks or trash your organization's rep with the public.

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Old 16th July 2017, 10:16 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
No body cams working. Woman is blonde and white.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-a...25da452e25d46c

Interesting to see how this case goes.
So it's not even safe to call the police because you might get shot yourself. And this part of the story is really strange:
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She was talking to the driver when the officer in the passenger seat pulled out his gun and shot across his fellow officer.
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With the only witnesses to the incident being the two officers involved, both of whose body cams were coincidentally not operating, I predict that the entire thing will be reported as the fault of the woman, who through no fault at all of either officer, ended up dead.
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Old 16th July 2017, 10:21 PM   #15
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With the only witnesses to the incident being the two officers involved, both of whose body cams were coincidentally not operating, I predict that the entire thing will be reported as the fault of the woman, who through no fault at all of either officer, ended up dead.
well,she was wilfully and persistently a foreigner...
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So it's not even safe to call the police because you might get shot yourself. And this part of the story is really strange:
I guess one police officer now has an eardrum blown out.
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Old 16th July 2017, 11:14 PM   #17
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Police said a squad camera also failed to capture the incident, and investigators were seeking to determine if any video of the incident existed.
No mention of weapon either. It will be very interesting to see how one can justify that a woman in pajama was a "threat to their life". Possibly she was coming at them running/walking brisk, will be the excuse.

I think your police need a reform - nationwide.

ETA Oh and a slight addition law : cop are now forced to wear body camera, and forced before any shift start to make sure they works, and if they do not - their word should not be taken at face value at all.

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The Minneapolis paper has more detail. This is just incomprehensible.
http://www.startribune.com/woman-kil...s/434782213/#1
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No mention of weapon either. It will be very interesting to see how one can justify that a woman in pajama was a "threat to their life". Possibly she was coming at them running/walking brisk, will be the excuse.
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Not even that:
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Three sources with knowledge of the incident said Sunday that two officers in one squad car, responding to the 911 call, pulled into the alley. Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources said. No weapon was found at the scene.
And she was the person who called the cops in the first place.
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Amazing coincidence.

None of the officers' body cameras were turned on.

I wonder what they use them for?
The cameras always seem to fail right before a shooting.
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Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/201...lice-shooting/

Wow, if this crap is true I can't think of a better way to waste $4 million bucks or trash your organization's rep with the public.

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4 Mill seems to be about average for the wrongful death lawsuit settlements where the cops totally did nothing wrong.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
The cameras always seem to fail right before a shooting.

Design flaw?

Is it a bug or a feature?
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The cameras always seem to fail right before a shooting.
At a guess, it might be procedure to turn them on just before you leave the vehicle. Since they shot her without exiting their vehicle they never turned them on.

Doesn't look good for them though.
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It's a thin blue line, between love and hate.
Care to explain?
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Care to explain?
Good luck with that
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Amazing coincidence.

None of the officers' body cameras were turned on.
Man, those things are just unreliable! Maybe they shut down when they sense death, or something.
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I guess one police officer now has an eardrum blown out.
Hope that at least!!!!!!!!!
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There's no universal protocol for the use of the body cameras. Some departments have the requirement that they are "always on", apparently even when officers are riding around and possibly trash-talking the department "brass" or going to the john.
Others require that the cameras be turned on when actually responding to an incident. (Which limits the amount of data that must be stored).
If that was the case, then if the officers had just arrived and were still in the car, they might very well have not turned them on.
Naturally, the "dash-cam" would not show any action inside the vehicle.

As to the circumstances of the shooting itself, it's anyone's guess. Just have to wait.
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So hang on. She was talking to the driver of the patrol car, presumably leaning on the door when the 2nd cop shot her from inside the car across the face of the driver?
WTF?
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You know, I get that being a cop is dangerous sometimes... but you don't just shoot a woman in her pyjamas because she happens to be walking towards you.

"Oh, my god! Here she comes. Move your head, Joe!" <BANG>
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This one has to be an accidental discharge right?

It's not like they are going to say the nice white lady was reaching for a gun or anything.
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As to the circumstances of the shooting itself, it's anyone's guess. Just have to wait.
I don't blame you for sitting on the fence. Whether the police close up ranks or hang the officer out to dry, the outcome can't be favourable for the Minneapolis police.

I have a lot of respect for your posts but buying into this thread prematurely can damage you.
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This one has to be an accidental discharge right?

It's not like they are going to say the nice white lady was reaching for a gun or anything.
If she was reaching for the gun, she can't have been nice. Problem solved.

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All other considerations aside, wouldn't shooting from inside a car across the driver represent a serious <expletive deleted> hazard? Meaning even if this were something like the first wave of the zombie apocalypse and the simple fact of shooting were to wind up being justified, the manner in which it was done would be grossly negligent? Just thinking of the hearing loss alone has my head spinning.
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I live in Minneapolis. This happened about a mile away from me. Last week an officer jumped a backyard fence while responding to a residential burglar alarm and shot the two dogs that were in the yard, all of which was caught on video. The dogs were wagging their tails and not approaching the officer. The burglar alarm turned out to be a false alarm.

I think we need to rethink what we teach our cops about imminent danger. We are awful quick to pull triggers in this country.
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The Minneapolis paper has more detail. This is just incomprehensible.
http://www.startribune.com/woman-kil...s/434782213/#1
If those are the facts, it sounds like a negligent discharge at the very least.
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I live in Minneapolis. This happened about a mile away from me. Last week an officer jumped a backyard fence while responding to a residential burglar alarm and shot the two dogs that were in the yard, all of which was caught on video. The dogs were wagging their tails and not approaching the officer. The burglar alarm turned out to be a false alarm.

I think we need to rethink what we teach our cops about imminent danger. We are awful quick to pull triggers in this country.
This is just *********** appalling. Warning: Shows dogs being shot. Even I found it difficult to watch.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol...s-in-backyard/
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Care to explain?
It's a play on the song "It's a thin line, between love and hate."
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Originally Posted by Bikewer View Post
As to the circumstances of the shooting itself, it's anyone's guess. Just have to wait.
Unfortunately, if tehre is no video and no witness all we will have are the word of the cops. And no offense, but after having seen video of cops reacting badly or outright lying, I am not trusting any US cops anymore on their words.
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