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Old 13th March 2019, 06:39 PM   #1
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Another race grifter caught reporting fake hate crime

Or so it would appear, but let's not jump to conclusions.

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Jacob Wohl reported a death threat to the Minneapolis Police Department. Small problem: he wrote the threat to himself from a fake account he created, posing as a gay Hispanic "diversity coordinator," who does not really exist.
Who is Jacob Wohl?
Jacob Wohl Allegedly Caught Making Despicable Death Threats Against...Jacob Wohl

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When we last checked in on Jacob Wohl, the longtime Trump-tweet-reply king was in the midst of ******* up a harebrained scheme to frame Robert Mueller for sexual misconduct in pretty much every way imaginable. Now, several months removed from that hilarious failure and flush with a fresh infusion of walking-around cash from God knows where, the teenage hedge-fund fraudster turned professional Islamophobe has embarked on a new and exciting grift: making poorly produced Internet pseudo-documentaries about Minnesota congresswoman Ilhan Omar. (Out of respect for your time and intelligence, dear reader, I do not include a link.)

The final product leans heavily on dramatic footage of Wohl and fellow MAGA celebrity Laura Loomer doing things like knocking on the front door of Omar's home—and then, when no one answers, reacting as if her absence constitutes irrefutable evidence of a diabolical plot to transform the Great Lakes region into a shadow sharia caliphate. The most notable thing about a sequence in which they express shock at visible signs of Somali culture inside a prominent Somali mall, honestly, is the patience everyone else in said mall extends to these leering doofuses who insist on filming strangers' shopping trips.
This guy seems like a dumber version of James O'Keefe, if such a thing is possible. Laura Loomer I seem to recall got kicked out of CPAC recently.
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Old 13th March 2019, 06:56 PM   #2
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Haha what a tool. I've never heard of this guy before, but already I hate him. I hope he dies in a fire.
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Old 13th March 2019, 07:36 PM   #3
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Right because that idea worked out just great for that other guy recently...
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Haha what a tool. I've never heard of this guy before, but already I hate him. I hope he dies in a fire.
We discussed him and one of his attempts a few months back:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...t=wohl&page=77

He's entertaining*, and is good friends with Bill Shine (Trump's recently departed communications director), and Darla Shine, anti-vaxxer celebrity.

Despite his November circus fire, he still seems to have access to people in the White House.


*Entertaining in that he repeatedly makes a complete and utter fool of himself and others around him, while being completely sincere and unaware. He's a new Andy Kaufman, but doesn't even know it.

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Clearly the best way for him to regain credibility would be to carry out the threat.
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I have to say, when I saw the title of this thread on my RSS feed, I thought someone else might have been the OP.... I guess we all know who I thought it was.

Wasn't the Wohl guy the dickhead who tried to fake a sexual assault witness against Robert Mueller?
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Old 14th March 2019, 01:13 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I have to say, when I saw the title of this thread on my RSS feed, I thought someone else might have been the OP.... I guess we all know who I thought it was.

Wasn't the Wohl guy the dickhead who tried to fake a sexual assault witness against Robert Mueller?
Yes, with one other gentleman I seem to recall, and failed miserably. I don't know if the other fellow was aware of all of his deceptions. Perhaps he was hoodwinked, but I didn't follow that story too closely. It's clear now that he's a serial fabulist and mountebank, and a shabby one at that.
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Yes, with one other gentleman I seem to recall, and failed miserably. I don't know if the other fellow was aware of all of his deceptions. Perhaps he was hoodwinked, but I didn't follow that story too closely. It's clear now that he's a serial fabulist and mountebank, and a shabby one at that.
Oh yes. IIRC that gentleman in question had an unfortunate clothing malfunction during a (so called) press conference...
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Great to see the phrase "race grifter" getting the traction it deserves
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Great to see the phrase "race grifter" getting the traction it deserves
Sometimes it's funny how the shoe fits when it's on the other foot.
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
Clearly the best way for him to regain credibility would be to carry out the threat.
Maybe he's a split brain patient...
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Great to see the phrase "race grifter" getting the traction it deserves
Except that this time the grifter's on your side.
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Except that this time the grifter's on your side.
I think the problem a lot of people had wasn't that it was a bad term, but that it was calling out the wrong people.

Personally I think it's a good term. It's evocative, reasonably accurate, and has a pretty good mouthfeel. I hope it gains bipartisan popularity. Call out the grift wherever you see it, my ninjas.
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Maybe he's a split brain patient...
Peanuts do split in half.
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I don't like the term. I keep misreading it as 'race grafter' and then I picture Rachel Dolezal getting skin grafts so she can make her dream reality.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I don't like the term. I keep misreading it as 'race grafter' and then I picture Rachel Dolezal getting skin grafts so she can make her dream reality.
I read "race grafter" and I see a multicultural Frankenstein's monster.
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I read "race grafter" and I see a multicultural Frankenstein's monster.
TM already said that!
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I read "race grafter" and I see a multicultural Frankenstein's monster.
It would go on a rampage of cultural appropriation. 'Listen', the monster said to the pitchfork-and-torches mob, 'it's okay for me to wear a feathered headdress because I'm 1/116th Native American. Three of my wrist bones are from a Cherokee!'
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It would go on a rampage of cultural appropriation. 'Listen', the monster said to the pitchfork-and-torches mob, 'it's okay for me to wear a feathered headdress because I'm 1/116th Native American. Three of my wrist bones are from a Cherokee!'
The villagers shout back: "Pocahontas!"
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Great to see the phrase "race grifter" getting the traction it deserves
I do think it is a good phrase, but it does cut in all directions. People are using their perceived victimhood as a weapon, I'm all about disarming them, regardless of color.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I don't like the term. I keep misreading it as 'race grafter' and then I picture Rachel Dolezal getting skin grafts so she can make her dream reality.
Strictly speaking I think a race grifter is someone who is really black but can pass as white. That is a very traditional form of race grifting.
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Question: if someone grifts using multiple variables (sex, race, etc.) can we deem them "multi-track grifters" ?
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We have at least one poster here who's a grift grifter.
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Right because that idea worked out just great for that other guy recently...
Well, this one is a white kid with a rich daddy so...
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He used this hoax danger to justify traveling with a "security team" to Minny. One of his "badass team of security professionals" were photographed wearing crocs in the snow in Minneapolis in February. If I had the skills, I would fake some videos with James Bond or Jason Bourne wearing crocs in all sorts of action sequences.

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How can you not trust the word of a man who has such wonderful Trumpian experiences in hipster coffee shops?
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You mean a guy who got a lifetime ban from trading securities at 18?
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I have to admire Wohl, he really strives for excellence in his field. He already holds the honor of being the youngest person to receive lifetime ban from the NFA for securities fraud. Then makes news with his disastrous, half-baked attempt to take down Mueller with a bogus sexual misconduct claim via his company Surefire Intelligence, you know, the one that used stock photos of celebrities to pad out his fake organization.

Now he's filing obviously false police reports in an attempt to...? I don't know. Looking forward to him going to jail, maybe he'll get the help he obviously needs there.
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Is this kid worth knowing about? I've never heard of him. Sounds like he has mental problems and is a big conspiracy theorist. Did he do something illegal? Put him in jail. What's the big deal? Break law get arrested.
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I have to admire Wohl, he really strives for excellence in his field. He already holds the honor of being the youngest person to receive lifetime ban from the NFA for securities fraud. Then makes news with his disastrous, half-baked attempt to take down Mueller with a bogus sexual misconduct claim via his company Surefire Intelligence, you know, the one that used stock photos of celebrities to pad out his fake organization.

Now he's filing obviously false police reports in an attempt to...? I don't know. Looking forward to him going to jail, maybe he'll get the help he obviously needs there.
I think the space for right wing grifters is really crowded for mediocre white kids with rich parents, so you really have to do something crazy to stand out. Especially now that it seems the bubble has burst and they are turning on each other. He doesn't seem capable to put on the veneer of an intellectual like Shapiro or D'Souza. He can't be a smoke screen minority. He can't be a pretty blonde girl in a sleeveless dress. I mean, he could, but I don't think his target audience would be receptive.

He has no military service. No business accomplishments (then again, that doesn't seem to mean much). Nothing special to separate him from all the other bootlicks spouting white supremacist nonsense.

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I think the space for right wing grifters is really crowded for mediocre white kids with rich parents, so you really have to do something crazy to stand out. Especially now that it seems the bubble has burst and they are turning on each other. He doesn't seem capable to put on the veneer of an intellectual like Shapiro or D'Souza. He can't be a smoke screen minority. He can't be a pretty blonde girl in a sleeveless dress. I mean, he could, but I don't think his target audience would be receptive.

He has no military service. No business accomplishments (then again, that doesn't seem to mean much). Nothing special to separate him from all the other bootlicks spouting white supremacist nonsense.
What strikes me is how young some of these people are, and how it's not uncommon for one's politics to change as one gets a little older. I think a good many of these kids are going to be greatly embarrassed later in life. Heck, I was seriously Republican when I was 16 (I thought at the time it was because of principles, but in retrospect it was because there was a really cute guy in my class who was very Republican), and I'm embarrassed to remember I wore a stupid t-shirt to school a couple of times. Thank god there wasn't "social media" back then! These videos are going to haunt these kids for the rest of their lives.
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I think a good many of these kids are going to be greatly embarrassed later in life.
Not Wohl - this guy is AMAZING! Did you know he was such a child prodigy that he eclipsed Mozart?

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From there, the event rapidly descended further into farce. When Wohl was asked what investigative experience he has — bearing in mind he’s all of 20 years old — he responded that he’s done “a handful of matters like this over the years” and that his mission was strictly non-partisan. “Jacob is one of the brightest and most capable and competent people I’ve met,” added Burkman, who reportedly failed to zip the fly of his pants before appearing on camera this morning. “I think Jacob is a child prodigy who has eclipsed Mozart.”
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Is this kid worth knowing about? I've never heard of him. Sounds like he has mental problems and is a big conspiracy theorist. Did he do something illegal? Put him in jail. What's the big deal? Break law get arrested.
He noteworthy enough to get funding for his various misadventures. It’s mostly conspiracy nonsense but he gets enough funding to push them hard and publicize them.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...han-omar-grift

This is the kind of stuff that leads to guys with rifles busting into pizza parlors.
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He noteworthy enough to get funding for his various misadventures. It’s mostly conspiracy nonsense but he gets enough funding to push them hard and publicize them.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...han-omar-grift

This is the kind of stuff that leads to guys with rifles busting into pizza parlors.
Ya, for the most part, these mooks are only well known to their own echo chamber and online liberals looking for a "debate".

The problem is that first group tends to very angry and very armed.
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Ya, for the most part, these mooks are only well known to their own echo chamber and online liberals looking for a "debate".

The problem is that first group tends to very angry and very armed.
That echo chamber includes Bill Shine, the recently departed the White House Communications (former co-president of Fox News) director and his wife Darla (a celebrity herself who thinks that measles cures cancer). Mr. Shine will be advising Trump's 2020 run.

So long as the echo chamber includes the President's inner circle, it is not hyperbole to suggest that it is best to expose and shame Wohl's absurdity. There's more to it than looking for a debate - it is daylighting a CT monger with influence in the White House.

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He used this hoax danger to justify traveling with a "security team" to Minny. One of his "badass team of security professionals" were photographed wearing crocs in the snow in Minneapolis in February. If I had the skills, I would fake some videos with James Bond or Jason Bourne wearing crocs in all sorts of action sequences.
Its one of the only things I really like about Twitter - when some BS artist like Wohl pops up with another of his fabulist made-up stories, the peanut gallery is utterly merciless....

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"Because all badass security people keep themselves and their protectees all huddled in one, easily accessible group, never look to the rear, wear inappropriate clothing, and always keep their hands in their pockets or wear gloves too big for working a firearm. A+++ badasses!"
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"✔️ The sweat pants add to the professionalism."
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"Pissheads from the local bar"
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
What strikes me is how young some of these people are, and how it's not uncommon for one's politics to change as one gets a little older. I think a good many of these kids are going to be greatly embarrassed later in life. Heck, I was seriously Republican when I was 16 (I thought at the time it was because of principles, but in retrospect it was because there was a really cute guy in my class who was very Republican), and I'm embarrassed to remember I wore a stupid t-shirt to school a couple of times. Thank god there wasn't "social media" back then! These videos are going to haunt these kids for the rest of their lives.
There's nothing like the certainty of youth. I flirted with libertarianism as a youth, because it appealed to my juvenile, un-nuanced ideological view of the world that had yet to be checked hard by reality. As I grew older, i started to see much more shades of nuance and things became much more complicated. Details can be awfully pesky annoyances.

I can see why these extreme alt-right ideologies are so appealing to young people. They paint the world is a such clear, unambiguous way which is very appealing despite being inconsistent with the complexities of reality.
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Old 15th March 2019, 09:06 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
He noteworthy enough to get funding for his various misadventures. It’s mostly conspiracy nonsense but he gets enough funding to push them hard and publicize them.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...han-omar-grift

This is the kind of stuff that leads to guys with rifles busting into pizza parlors.
It should also be noted that Wohl was a contributor for Gateway Pundit, to which the Trump administration has granted White House press credentials.

So yeah, it might be worth knowing what kind of goofball conspiracy theorists the President considers to be legitimate journalists.
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